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DiSection: Idlewild Hope Is Important track-by-track

Idlewild are one of those bands that many of us grew up with, and as 2008 draws to a close the Scottish rockers are giving fans a chance to relive their youth by perfoming all the albums, in full plus associated B sides, just before Christmas (full details below) at a series of special shows in Glasgow.

To celebrate the occasion, DiS asked singer Roddy Woomble for a track-by-track retrospective on their first full album, 1998's Hope Is Important.

Says Woomble:

"Half of the songs were written throughout 1997 and around the same times as those that appear on Captain, the other half (including most of the singles) were written between tours in the first months of 1998, when we'd been branded as the 'next big thing' by much of the UK music press, and had given up university/employment to concentrate on touring etc. It was a time of adjustment to the (frankly gruelling) touring life around the toilet circuit in a van, and of meeting expectation from audiences at every venue. It's an incomplete album as it's the sound of a band split between their past and future and with barely any studio experience to document it properly. For that reason it did (and still does) exude a naïve rawness. It was recorded in batches, firstly in Chapel studios in rural Lincolnshire, and latterly in Pearse Street Studios in Dublin."

     
  1. You've Lost Your Way

    A very early Idlewild song. Rod [Jones, guitarist] originally sung it; I punctuated points with a scream or two. This song is a good representation of what we sounded like live at the time (albeit a bit tighter thanks to the advantage of multiple takes): very driven, abrasive and energetic. The only Idlewild song Rod wrote the words for. I have no idea what they were. One bit sounds like "When Gertrude goes down/I think she's meant a nosedive". He was banned from writing lyrics after this.

  2. A Film For The Future

    Nothing to do with the song 'You're So Vain' by Carly Simon. In fact, we were always surprised at the time when people mentioned that. Many of our early songs were based around a riff. Our original bass player, Phil Scanlon, was (and he would admit to this) not very good. Everyone followed Rod. When Bob [Fairfoull, Scanlon's replacement] joined things got better. Bob had great melodic ideas with his bass. So this was an example of Rod and Bob working together to make a better rock song. Lyrically it was more a reflection of my lack of interest in my studies as a film student than anything else, hence the "Nothing is certain" chorus. But it wasn't really meant to be about anything. It was meant to rock.

  3. Paint Nothing

    Every Friday we used to all hang out at the Art school in Edinburgh at a club called The Egg. Rod was a bit of the man about town (or so he thought) suited up, with his dyed pink hair all styled. This was still in the Britpop-era when people liked Menswear and danced to Sleeper records. I hated it all, but every week compulsively went along, sat outside smoking and moaning. I suppose much of the song is about this experience. Musically, it was our attempt at jangle-pop with a bit of distortion.

  4. When I Argue I See Shapes

    I remember writing this in the practice pad, a rehearsal complex in the Tollcross area of Edinburgh, and thinking that it sounded good straight away. The band had been working on it without me, and when I came in the melody came straight away and just seemed to weave in and out of the chords. We all loved Pavement and I think we thought of this as our homage, although listening back it doesn't really sound like them at all. Lyrically it came from something random that was shouted during one of the many arguments I had with my girlfriend at the time, over some nonsensical teenage trial I'm sure.


     

  5. 4 People Do Good

    When we formed Idlewild I wanted to be in a punk band. I'd been in pub bands, and bands that tried (and failed) to sound like The Velvet Underground and all I really wanted to do was rock out. This is the kind of tune that we came up with a lot. All the early sets were made up of songs that sounded like this. '4 People Do Good' was the best of a bunch. Lyrically it's a hopeful, straightforward punk-rock theme: "I've got no motives/4 people do good".

  6. I'm Happy To Be Here Tonight

    This is really an album made by a band with no idea how to put a record together. It could have been an album of '4 People Do Good's or 'I'm Happy To Be Here Tonight's had we had less, or more time. As it was, it turned into a fairly schizophrenic mix. I think this was also the song that started the (ten years and counting) REM comparisons. Lyrically, very bookish "Abstract lonely boys" abound, living through their "Chaos dream". You either love or hate this stuff.

  7. Everyone Says You're So Fragile

    Dangerously close to being pop-punk, a genre that all made us squirm with discomfort, and worry that we'd be lumped in with the other such bands in the UK at the time - Snug, Symposium, Midget etc. Not that we thought we were amazing, we didn't, but I guess we just thought we were more interesting, angrier and chaotic. But we also liked our melodies, and it was stupid to ignore our blossoming talent for coming up with good ones. The song was written quickly, with a single in mind since we were conscious that we didn't have many. We made it as poppy as we could. It didn't do very well in the charts, so we dropped the Brill building approach. We still play this song regularly though.

  8. I'm A Message

    Half the album was recorded In Dublin above a pub called Mahaffeys. You could phone down and they'd bring up a tray of Guinness. Rod and Colin used to go down and watch the football in the pub while Bob and I would sit up in the studio reading and listening to music ordering up pints. In between working hard you understand. Dave Eringa who has produced most of our stuff since always says he'd have loved a shot doing this song, I suppose it got so much better after a few years of playing it live that the recording stopped doing it justice. It's a great little pop song and still gets an audience pogo-ing. When we recorded it we'd never played it live. No special attention was really given to it.


     

  9. You Don't Have The Heart

    One of the last songs written for the LP. The Jesus Lizard were another group we liked and the chorus in this one is a (failed) attempt toward their sound. Interestingly, Justine Frischman from Elastica was supposed to come and sing on the verses. It was all arranged and then she pulled out due to her tonsils flaring up or something. Salli, the girl who worked in admin at Deceptive Records, ended up singing her part at the last minute. This song was always good live. In fact, a live version appeared as a B side to 'Little Discourage'.

  10. Close The Door

    Not our finest moment. "It's an album track" Paul Tipler, the producer of this record, used to say, which is diplomatic-producer-speak for 'it's not as catchy or memorable as the other songs'. The "Barbecue lungs" lines was in reference to how many cigarettes we were all smoking at the time. There was a 'no smoking' sign on the door of the studio which Paul (a non-smoker) used to joke that we ignored because we couldn't see for all the smoke. Back in the days when smoking was allowed indoors.

  11. Safe And Sound

    Another leap toward something less noisy and abrasive. There's a violin on here played by a school teacher from Dublin. I was particularly proud of this song. It remained my favourite idlewild song until we wrote 'Little Discourage' the following year. The title came from a bit of graffiti spray-painted on a bridge over the northbound M6. We always knew how close we were to Scotland when we saw that safe and sound.

  12. Low Light

    This was the end of our set. Sometimes it'd been known to go on for ten plus minutes so Paul the producer had seen us live a number of times and knew that it would work better if we approached it like that. So it was all done in one take live in the studio at night after several cans of beer. Rod added a few extra guitars, but along with 'You've Lost Your Way', this song captures the band very much how we sounded in concert. It's angry, a bit teenage; yet within its punk-pop confines, vaguely free-form. No one is working to an arrangement, they're following me.

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"And that was it. The record went into the charts at #53 and sold a respectable 60,000 odd copies in its first year, helped by the single 'When I Argue I See Shapes' charting at #19. The album found a small cult following in Japan and America, and we continued to grow in reputation as a live band, playing bigger venues around the UK. Ultimately, it's a messy explanation of what we were at the time, though I look back on it all fondly, the way one might recall a memorable holiday taken as a teenager. But it's what came after that I'm proud of the most..."

Idlewild play a series of shows performing all their albums in full, plus associated B sides, at King Tut's Wah Wah Hut in Glasgow next month:

December
17 Hope Is Important and others
18 100 Broken Windows
19 The Remote Part
20 Warnings/Promises and acoustic set
21 Captain and Make Another World

Roddy Woomble is currently touring the UK as part of John McCusker's Under One Sky project.

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Long Blondes Singles
Blood Red Shoes Box of Secrets
XX Teens Welcome to Goon Island

Lovely stuff

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yeah

would you say that make another world is better?

I actually really like MAW but it's not really in the same league as what came before it.

it's not their weakest

that's reserved for warnings/promises! it's definitely not as good as 100bw and the remote part though (my joint favourites). i like captain and maw equally - a lot.

really cool article; would be nice to have roddy speaking about each and every one on the albums. the glasgow gigs are gonna be great - wish i could have got more than a remote part ticket
getting excited about hearing new material. anyone know got any idea who's producing it?

lovely article, thankyou

i look back this album very fondly too.

indeed, a good article

it's odd to hear roddy talking about this phase for the band with saying who he regrets that he felt he was singing with a nasal american tone. but it's good to hear him be honest about the tracks, attributing some to just sheer youth!

let me type that again!

it's odd to hear roddy talking about this phase for the band without saying how he regrets that he felt he was singing with a nasal american tone. but it's good to hear him being honest about the tracks, attributing some to just sheer youth!

weakest, wut?

this album is brilliant and has had such an incredible influence on my life/music taste. it's amazing that we get something like this and there's instantly some moaners moaning.

to be fair

I remember at the time that a lot of people felt it was a slight letdown after Captain, I'd maybe include myself there. Lovely piece, though, shall have to dig this album up again. Is it offensive to Idlewild purists to say I prefer The Remote Part?

I'll get me coat...

I really like this album

I think it's better than 100 Broken Windows, I really do.

Great read

Really can't wait until the 17th now; as much as i love 100 Broken Windows, Hope is Important live will be mindblowing.

i said it's NOT their weakest!

there was no moaning - i said it was a really cool article! what more do you want!!
it's this site that usually knocks them, past news stories have called them 'once good but not good anymore'! personally i love 'em

FACT

10 Yrs on and we are still listening to the record and debating its pros & cons. That for me makes it a stand out piece of music.... and I can wait to hear it live back to front at Tuts!! FKN Special!

I actually lol'd at this bit:

<i>"One bit sounds like "When Gertrude goes down/I think she's meant a nosedive". He was banned from writing lyrics after this."</i>

Great article.

Best article on here in a good while

lovely stuff - any chance of doing the other albums?

I should add that I've never heard this album

always loved 100BW and Remote Part, but was put off this by the nasal american voice. Just listening to the preview of WIAISS though, and it's totally something I can live with. Will try and hunt down a cheap copy.

Yeah, it got mediocre reviews when it came out

MM loved it, NME didn't, 3/5 everywhere else. But it was never a bad album. I was blown away by Captain, didn't like this, but came around to it later (actually after 100 broken windows). Excellent read, cheers.

I have a really choice promo of this album

Light brown card sleeve, album cover hidden behind the disc.

/collector scum>

Great article

I've always loved this album, i missed out on Captain so this was the first Idlewild record i bought.
Good little insight, any chance of 100 Broken Windows?

The 17th can't come quick enough

Exactly

Anyone who considers this Idlewild's weakest moment is beyond moronic. Fucking GREAT album, GREAT feature.

Great read

I wish I lived in Scotland. Those gigs look fucking amazing

I play pop punk and I'm not ashamed.

Ever since I stole the promo pre release of this album in '98 Ive deeply loved this band.
Certain fans always do the whole cliche of "oh I'm the only person who can clearly tell the best material" bulls**t. All their material has made perfect sence to me and they are very very consistent. Too intelectual for the masses though. It seems like if you wanna be intelectual and succeed in music that you must be tortured too (aka Radiohead). Idlewild lifts me up.
Beautiful picturesque, poppy, lonely, happy, complete.

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Absolutely this.

I like

Close The Door.

Me too

Slightly disappointed that the band don't!

I think 100 BW is the better album, but I think that I've probably listened to Hope Is Important more. It's just so much fun.

Slightly off topic, Little Discourage is the only song I've ever crowd surfed to.

i love you roddy!!

This is were it all began

for me.

I rember buying this on cassette, on the week it came out, for £4.99. (Our Price used to do cassettes on the cheap for the first week of their release - and £4.99 was cheap in those days!)

I thought they were brilliant then and I still think they are brilliant now. W/P was a bit of a blip, but it was always going to suffer after the majesty of 100BW and TRP.

I agree with those who have posted previously - get Roddy back to talk us through the other albums. If this doesn't happen then at least I can console myself with my 5 night pass for the Tut's gigs.

9,9,8,8,7,7,6,6.....

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