- Sonic Youth, Hush Arbors at Kentish Town Forum, Camden Town, Fri 23 Oct
- Spotifriday: ID:09 Special - 20 Must-Have Independent Albums of the Year (SO FAR!)
- Spotifriday: ID:09 Special - 20 Must-Have Independent Albums of the Year (SO FAR!)
- Sonic Youth - The Eternal
- Spotifriday #6 - This Week on DiS as a playlist
- In Photos - Primavera Sound Festival 2009, Barcelona
- Spotifriday: Your NEU! favourite band...
- ATP film to get UK premiere at Edinburgh Festival
More Sonic Youth
-
Sonic Youth, Franz Ferdinand, The Magic Numbers, Babyshambles at Oya Festival, Norway, Thu 11 Aug
-
ATP04 UK: Line-up Trickles Onto the Interweb. Cat Power, Har Mar + More...
-
Don't Look Back 2007 at Roundhouse, London, South East England, Thu 30 Aug
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
There you go, Chris.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
And Sister was always much better than Daydream Nation.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
how about re-editing it and just upload it again from the point from which it goes "CUT!"..? Or was that an unrealised subliminal hint that came out as you wrote that? I'm off to stick knives through my face.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
However, it's SY, and by my lights I'll try to buy it if only to say rock is not dead.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
19 albums - could they be the next Fall?
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
No matter how much you want sonic youth to still be important, or relevant, they are not, and won't be again. There is nothing new on this album, this sounds like a band who are aging with grace, but since when was grace exiting? The band have a sound, and that sound is good, it sounded incredible in the early 90's and it still sounded good on Murray Street, but new ideas, the lack thereof has been something that sonic youth has been painfully short on recently.
This is no five star album. To give it such praise is an insult to the bands previous accomplishments. Daydream Nation is a 5 star album. Washing machine is a 5 star album. Evol is a 5 star album. Sister is a 5 star album.
To even flirt with the idea that this collection of songs is in the same stratosphere as those records is delusional.
It's a nice album, the band aren't exactly pissing on their legacy like some other artists have been doing recently, but don't try and fool yourself into thinking this is more important (or better) than it actually is.
2/5.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
In this writer’s opinion, the LP is an extension of Sonic Youth’s artistic legacy.
The review actually expounds – something which you’d have detected if your brains didn’t consist of swiss cheese - that the LP * comes close* to being a landmark album on par with Daydream Nation on an artistic merit. At no point did it suggest that Nurse had scaled the mantle where Daydream Nation resides or suggest that SY were EVER going to be that culturally ‘‘relevant’’ again (and how completely fucking numbskulled you’d have to be to even assume such a thing), and… as for your other trite observations, in those relatively inconsequential realms of ‘‘relevance’’ and ‘‘importance’’, the review was written from the perspective of a person listening to the album For What It Is today/three thousand years ago/a hundred years into the future; a brilliant exposition of densely textured, absorbing sounds, the knife-edge, rapier-satire of Moore’s and Gordon’s reflections on A Modern World and *duh* multifaceted, winding song structures broken by noisejams. LIKE SONIC YOUTH DO. This warranted five stars.
‘Pretentious’…, isn’t this a little tired now?
If by 'pretentious' you imply writing that reflects the writer's experience of a music in an intelligent, passionate, and innovative way, and a way that could, feasibly, annoy you, then just don’t take the trouble to perplex your vacuous little craniums again. Read the NME, watch cd:uk… shoot yourself straight between the eyes.
I get the feeling that a vast majority of the people that make these prosaic, futile and ultimately regressive comments on this website are trainspotting, vinyl-hording dullards who, on all accounts, come across as emotional and intellectual dwarves.
‘Pompey Ruffian’ have you ever had an emotional experience? To quote an ex-member of the Lollies: ‘‘Or are you just one of those tedious sad indie boy fans who thinks all music can be reduced to facts and figures and top ten lists and the alphabetical order of your record collection? Who dismisses any kind of subjective description of emotional connection to music as "lifestyle"?’’
You all sound the same. Baa, baa, baa.
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
And surely 5 stars means perfection, or at least near-perfection? So if you think it isn't as good as "Daydream Nation" surely you can't be justified in giving it such a score?
Sonic Youth - Nurse
I come here to avoid writing like that.
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
a) people who read dis are more interested in music, than music journalism.
AND
b) would recognise much more nick kent than lester bangs.
AND
c) people would note the irony of being a critics, critic. a critique of a critique, brings things down to the level of being a voyeur of a voyeur, and where's the pleasure in that? unless of course said voyeur is a very beautiful person pleasuring themselves rather seductively. but to watch, is not to participate and to share is to not truly give, but it's better than just being all take, take, take.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Did anyone else see their performance at ATP on here? It was the best Sonic Youth gig I have ever seen (and I've seen plenty). Kim Gordon spinning around screaming "Drunken Butterfly" is surely one of the greatest sights a man can see! They are a band enjoying themselves again.
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
I held that title for so long
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
When you overpack a piece with simile and metaphor it can become hard to see whatever core of plain english lies beneath... and so it takes a long time to read... perhaps in common with much of the audience, my attention span for staring at text on a computer screen is pretty damn small... and so I'm not personally keen on things that I cannot skim-read. I have no need to read about metaphors about Sonic Youth... I KNOW what they sound like... they've been around for decades... what I DID want to know was whether they'd moved on to some new territory... which you didn't tell me in your review.
Dissonance was experiemented with in classical in the beginning of the 20th century, and to my mind, no guitar band has even come within a million miles of the way, say, Stravinsky used it... but maybe Sonic Youth aren't ever going to be the band to take such experimentation to the next level. If Matt Bellamy and Kim Gordon had a child, maybe that'd be the ticket...
Sonic Youth - Nurse
What you wrote was over-written and your estimation of the album was too high, to the point of hyperbole. You suck at listening to music.
Sean:
"people who read dis are more interested in music, than music journalism. "
Quoted for hilarity.
Music and music journalism go hand in hand (this is obvious surely) and people who read dis are going to have opinions on the writing here (this too is obvious) and what you printed was over-written hyperbole that was much less concerned with music that it was with journalistic masturbation (this too was obvious, judging by the response of people here).
Oh, and the album is called "Sonic Nurse", not "Nurse" as the review heading would have you believe.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
There is no greater form of masturbation yet invented, might as well exploit it.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
http://www.cnrocking.com/Showrock/mp3/Sonic_Youth-Sonic_Nurse-PROMO-2004-ESC.rar
enjoy
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
trite!
exposition!
rapier-satire!
prosaic!
an analysis over the meaning of "pretentious"!!
accusations our brains are sub-standard and not up to the task of understanding such a mighty review!!!
nurse my sides!
etc zzzzzzzzzz
smite me down with that vocabulary you wear so proudly as a badge of your higher intellect like some indie boy wearing the coolest band tshirt to a gig to prove his exquisite musical taste... It;s only a fucking webzine msgboard, not an English assessment
btw, no, I wouldn't mean 'pretentious' in the sense you presume (if I even used it? can't remember). Rather an over-indulgent heap of clever-clever masturbatory journalistic copy that hasn't been reigned in a good fucking deal before it was uploaded or even submitted for sub-editting (does that go on here?). More, like someone noted about the nice Mr Gallo recently, putting the misery and tedium back into being pretentious. You can argue for him being good too, and those very characteristics can be good themselves. And you can be sure the reviewer and Gallo are both the biggest fans of their own work..
Cheers for explaining to us how we're all (no exceptions it seems) so intellectually and culturally inferior to your good self though, cos we don't appreciate the review as much as you, was such an enlightening experience
and to the specific question at the end...er, yeah, strangely enough, but thanks for asking. even from/while listening to SY! and indeed this review/thread, tho not quite so positive...
"Man, those Jackie O Motherfucker guys are/ that "Confield" album is just a load of pure unlistenable pretentious cock, music for wankers"
"No, it's cos your brain is too weak to understand them, they make music for mortals higher than your undeveloped musical understanding with more evolved cultural palates - run off back to your little NME, child, whilst i look down my nose at you some more.."
go jump off a cliff or something, until you can find a more interesting argument that doesn't involve assuming superior intelligence over the internet based upon appreciation of a (fairly flatulent) album review (yeah! my god, *Everything* you said about me was spot-fucking-on! what were the chances, etc!). and take that Lollies quote (read it first time round, ta) with you if you're just gonna use it to blindly bash anyone's argument that criticises an review featuring 'subjective description and emotional connection', regardless if said writing is good or in fact balls livejournal ponderings and overindulgence. christ, my monday morning was tiresome enough already..
ps, i'm an SY fan too, but whatever...
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
I only just realised - that post was actually from the reviewer! !
Best laugh I've had all morning, especially wrestling with this cunting computer.... see, I can register emotional experiences! and all thanks to you...x
ps, At what point can a web-zine writer seriously get away with publicly regarding their own work as "innovative", with no shread of sarcasm? someone took the VG thing to heart it seems, before i even mentioned it..
slacker345 kinda said all i had to say too but miles more succinctly, i didn't see that. oh well, i couldn't be arsed to work all the way up til lunch today..
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
In June, ATP04 currators Sonic Youth release their 19th album entitled 'Nurse'. Talkin' to Rolling Stone, Thurston said the vibe is "Bare Trees-era Fleetwood Mac jamming with Jealous Again-era Black Flag... In a way, the sound is a marriage of those two things, just when you're relaxed, your speakers kind of fry."
There's a track called 'Peace Attack,' which he told Rolling Stone that it represents "America was pushed into war against everybody's wishes except the President's and his own cabinet's, so it's just about the whole co modification of peace. [President Bush] was delivering this thing that was like a McDonald's hamburger. It was like 'McPeace' to me. He's gonna attack people with this thing he calls 'peace.' There was something so malevolent about it."
And here's the full tracklisting, nabbed off sonicyouth.com:
New Hampshire
Paper Cup Exit
I Love You Golden Blue
Peace Attack
Pattern Recognition
Unmade Bed
Dripping Dream
Mariah Carey and the Arthur Doyle Hand Creme
Stones
Dude Ranch Nurse
'Nurse' is due on 7th June and tracks are being unveiled at this year's South By Southwest which kicks off today.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Whatever it sounds like its probably going to be good, and excellent if you get off on the 'Youths art punk stuff.
Im just pleased that these guys can keep making original stuff that sounds good and released on a major record label, while all doing individual side projects and doing it live at smaller venues (they toured alround america last year).
*Like the pretentious long bits people, keep up the good work*
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
why do people insult the way a review's been written? you are pathetic. get life you sad fools.
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
There's all kinds of shit to get animated about at the moment, though sadly these days a new S Y cd probably isn't one of them. With or without a review from a twelve year old.
Go get some train numbers, & take your prozac, voyeurs.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
I'll keep you to that..
Unless there's a difference for you, between 'insulting' and - like most of the responses here - 'criticising' (with Reasons! & everything!) and being able to discuss and articulate shit more than ye olde replies on these boards of the one-line "You're full of shit" level........
Sonic Youth - Nurse
http://www.machinehasnoagenda.com/module-pagesetter-viewpub-tid-8-pid-8.html
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sowt it arrrtttttt!
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Yes with journalistic hyperbole like that, you're really going to capture an audience. The whole of the first paragraph was crap. Ridiculous similes and metaphors. It's not Proust, its Sonic Youth criticism. And that classic trick of using French phrases to sound clever. We speak English! Oh and the shortening of 'because' to 'cuz'. This isn't Pikey Fuckwit language.
Sean's idea of slamming people who dare to criticise bad reviews is somewhat dictatorial.
This review is worse than the Probot review, which got slated a few months back.
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
Sonic Youth - Nurse
This shit's where it's at.
I'd much rather read an arty-farty, thesaurus-utilising, allusion laden creation like this (and that's praise-not criticism- despite how it may sound) than the bland journalism by numbers found in certain indie-bopper rags where the writers only got their jobs through Cuntish bourgeois nepotism not because of any talent.
Matthew Gregory's journalism is indeed pretentious and self-congratulatory. But it is also innovative, irreverent, highly original and adeptly astute.
If he's not written the new 'Naked Lunch' by the time he's 30 it'll only because he can't write in a straightjacket. Once again, high-praise to the madman.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
1. I like how reading NME is somehow the most original insult people can think of in these forums. Yes, NME is shit, move on.
2. While I agree that the review gave up nothing to suggest anything about the content of the album, it was nice to see a review that didn't just rattle off tracklistings and dry information. Not everyone's cup of tea, granted, but there are plenty of other reviews of the CD available.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
On the money. And that's why it creates simultaneous love and hatred. I can't decide whether I want to shake his hand or kick him really hard in the bollocks first. I think that's a good thing though. At least it's not mediocre, as you say. Except that ocean metaphor, cor dear...
Sonic Youth - Nurse
I'm working on a book called ''The Scantily Clad Breakfast'' under the psynd ''Bill The Fix'', the other difference is that I'm banging hot swedish tang in Prague at the moment rather than touching little mongolian boys up in some Tangiers creep joint and shooting mr brownstone.
But y'know, Burroughs, burroughs... legendary.
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
http://www.barbican.org.uk/generic/details.asp?eventID=2191&artFormID=4&artForm=theatre&disciplineName=eventList
Re: Sonic Youth - Nurse
Can we have some more, sir?
Sonic Youth - Nurse
anyway, reason i post this is because i, quite bizarrely, bought my copy of Sonic Nurse off eBay and it comes from Canada. what i'd like to know is why my track 4 is called "Kim Gordon and the Arthur Doyle hand cream". was there some kind of strange legal thing mariah carey about the song name up in Canada?? must say i'm quite confused and the song name change seems pointless.
Sonic Youth - Nurse
"Nurse! I can't get New Hampshire off my stereo!"
Sonic Youth - Nurse
Read me
Hi Chris
My name is Ben, 19 years old - I'm an undergraduate of Norwich University, England. Just caught my eye that you like Glenn Branca, Sonic Youth and, most interestingly, Can. These bands happen to be my favourite bands of all time. I have almost all of each respective bands music (And Branca's Ascension is an arresting listen). So we are on a similar level of taste it seems! Sorry if this may all seem rather odd and upfront of me, but it is most rare to hear someone other than my two best friends Tom and Lukas mention SY and Can in the same breath. Er, do you play any instruments? I am in a three piece with those guys I mentioned and we would desperately like a fourth member (whatever instrument) to play music with. Out of interest, I also listen to Phillip Glass, Neil Young, The Beach Boys, New York No-Wave music, The Shangri-Las, The Velvet Undergound, Kraftwerk, various Bernard Hermann soundtracks - Taxi Driver's is incredible - but Can's album Future Days is my most guarded posession. So would you like to talk music sometime? Broadcast over...
Sonic Youth- Nurse
Brilliant review


Sonic Youth
In Photos: Decemberists @ The Forum, London
In Photos: Dean & Britta @ St. Giles in the Fields, London
In Photos: Wolf Gang @ Hoxton Bar and Kitchen, London
In Photos: Gay For Johnny Depp @ The Engine Rooms, Brighton
Comments
- Post a new comment on this article