Exclusive: Field Day organiser answers festival criticism
Field Day swallowed up London’s indie community with little mercy this Saturday just gone – with an excellent bill and a convenient location in its favour, the Victoria Park-staged all-dayer was an on-paper winner. But, it did fall slightly foul of first-time jitters: not enough toilets, too many queues. It’s safe to say that a few punters left early, dissatisfied with their experience. Not all, mind: DiS’s on-site team had a blast for the most part.
But, questions need answering. Following up board posts you can find here and here, DiS went to Field Day organiser Tom Baker with your grievances.
Have you had many complaints about the festival?
If you have a look at the Field Day MySpace obviously there were issues with the toilets and the bars. But if you look at perhaps 90 per cent of the comments, if not more, most of them say: "Yeah, there were these problems BUT the music was amazing” or “This was a disgrace, however I loved Liars or I got to see Battles, The Aliens and Bat For Lashes - incredible". So on the whole there were those issues, which came mainly as a result of us being in our first year. I'm very disappointed as those problems were things I did bring up and the suggested improvements were things that I wanted to happen - I wanted more toilets and more bars but we were assured that it was enough for the capacity. It wasn't oversold - we were within capacity and we were advised that [the facilities] were enough for the capacity.
That 10,000 capacity - was that including the guestlist?
Yeah, that included everyone.
Have you received any requests for refunds at all?
No. I think everyone has said that obviously there were issues but it was the first year and these are things that can be rectified. A festival is about music, and that's why you go - it's not about toilets and bars, though obviously toilets and bars are extremely important. But they are things that can be easily sorted and dealt with.
I think the overall impression of the festival was of the music and that shone through. I think if people had really got pissed off they'd have left - they didn't. At the end Four Tet, Liars and Justice all had huge crowds... no-one asked for refunds on the day and the box office was open 'til the close of the festival. If people had had massive issues with it they'd have asked for a refund on the day. No-one was complaining. People were enjoying the tug o’ war and the tombola and just enjoying the event. I don't think it created an absolute, total nightmare for everyone but at the same time there were things that should have been right, and that's why I'm very disappointed.
There have been some complaints about the low sound levels - were they as a result of any similar problems the day before at Underage?
There were no problems at Underage at all. I think again it's just erring on the side of caution 'cause it was the first year and the council were there on every stage. With every outdoor event held in a central city location you've got levels and you have to adhere to them and I think for the first year they were ultra-cautious because we want to do it again. I didn't get many complaints from bands - a few mentioned it - but on the whole bands were treated really well. Backstage was really good. Of all the bands that I spoke to there were a couple that were disappointed that it wasn't very loud. But, I mean, Four Tet played at Glastonbury and he (Kieran Hebden) complained about the levels there, and when he played Glade similar problems arose there.
Will there be a Field Day next year?
Yeah, totally. The issues that came up this year can be easily resolved - look at Underage, that was a storming success. We'll get three times as many toilets and six bars and look at getting extra advice in... Field Day sold out two weeks in advance, the line-up was strong across the board. With six bars and triple the toilets people would've been buzzing about it, it'd have been the best fucking day ever. The problems are things that can be made right. I think perhaps we suffered because expectations were so high - eyes and ears were on us.
Did you reconsider the number of bars and bogs after you upped the capacity [from 6,000 to 10,000]?
Yeah, we were taking advice from people with 15 years’ worth of experience in the field. We did get our message up on MySpace as soon as we could, as we didn't want to be seen like we were hiding anything. On the day we were taking toilets out from backstage and putting them out front, but obviously it wasn't as easy to do the same with the bars.
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it's more than just beer and toliets...
but there were almost NO vegan/veggie options and food, wine, booze besides beer (wine and sangria) were running out at 6pm. one stage was entirely shut down the day of and the home fires tent was a tiny set-up stuck against a corner, so when it housed headlining acts like gruff rhys, four tet, and bat for lashes, the only people it satisfied were those in the first row--it was just too small of a space all together to house such a heavy-hitter bill.
where was the oxfam jumble sale? did you see any bands at the tug-of-war? what was with all the cops everywhere? how come we weren't allowed to bring our own booze or even water in, while people from backstage carried armfuls of booze out on to the festival grounds?
it was a friggin' zoo! so frustrating, we left early.
yeah
i hate to have a go, cos I had a good day all in all, but there were more problems than just the bars and toilets.
We met the man from Battles
and as a direct quote he said he could hear "shit all" on stage, and seemed rahter annoyed at the whole thing.
It is a shame, becasue Battles were fantastic, but you could just tell that they could be SO much better without the adversity.
Oh, and with the whole Homefires being too small thing, i think their main problem was too much of a good thing.
There were jsut too many good acts for the amount of space. Which is just absurd! I can't actually believe that is a criticism, but it kind of is.
Aye
After defending the promoters against some of the more knee-jerk cretins on the aforementioned threads, I still have to say that the sound WAS a problem; and thatbirdslove is absolutely spot on, re: the Homefires stage - just facing it a different direction would have helped. Even then though it would still have competed (and failed) with the Bugged Out tent.
I do hope that Tom listens to some of the remarks about the sound levels (and sightlines) - frankly the number of people who are saying the same thing means it surely isn't even merely a matter of opinion.
Sorry but a lot of that doesn't wash with me
"Backstage was really good"
Well that's just great, maybe think about giving the punters an equally "really good" experience next time.
Plenty of people left early and I sure heard a lot of people complaining.
Bleurgh, I'm just repeating myself now.
...
Well, at least you got to see some great bands.
I almost managed to type that with a straight face.
bullshit
plus I asked for a refund but they haven't bothered to reply.
maybe
but archie bronson were kicked off stage, so they couldn't have been too pleased
most people i think said they had a good time IN SPITE of the problems - without them it would have been great.
it would have been nice if the organisers were a bit more apologetic over their miscalculations but hey ho
Archie Bronson said
on departing 'we'll see you next time at a proper gig'. I guess they were quite pissed off.
The bands who played are going to be pretty irked with the negative publicity - I just hope that doesn't make it harder to get more good bands next year. As mentioned above, in paper, the festival was a brilliant idea, but in practice, the basics need to work!
I understand that it must be really difficult to put on a festival for the first time, but whoever you took advice from were either taking the piss or out to sabotage your efforts, in my opinion.
£22.50 is incredibly cheap - I'd be prepared to pay £15 more if it means a hassle-free, potentially fantastic day out, without a doubt - and it DID have the potential to be brilliant.
Good luck for next year. I definitely still intend to come, despite the teething problems.
this is fucking stupid
DiS would never have some this kind of letting them off easy "responding to criticisms" thing for Reading festival when people complain about that, an event where generally the faults lie with the punters and not the promoters. But oh, that's run by Mean Fiddler, right...so instead that would get a whole front page thing moaning about it.
plus
they seem to be justifying the faults by saying "oh but we picked some great bands"
So what? I could have picked a load of great bands too but I'd be fecking useless at putting a day festival on. They're trying to avoid the point really.
on the backstage area
i spoke to people from two bands playing there afterwards and the first things they said were 'bad sound, big queues and bad organisation'.the last two were aimed at backstage area.
not being a dick
about things, but this guy saids that 'oh the majority of the people were happy' but by the posts on this site and the event's myspace page saids otherwise. for every "good job" there's about 3 or 4 "what a shambles" posts.
if you're utterly devastated about field day and want a refund, you could contact your local trading standards centre and see what can be done. might be worth a shot and at least that way you'll know where you stand, legally.
http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/
course nothing might come of it, but worth a shot?
I hold that for 22 quid
we shouldnt have expected more. I travelled from somerset (via the isle of wight) to go. I found it to be good- at least the bands were. To be honest when you pay 12-17 quid to see someone like liars, a couple of quid extra to see those bands was worth it. Very few festivals deserve someone claiming a refund for them- only the really big ones where toilets are less of an inconvenience and more a humanitarian disaster should it be considered, in my view.
i hope they iron these problems out next year- just a case of adding a few more loos but not more tickets, and having more bars with more booze available. not hard problems to resolve. I hope it doesnt get much bigger though, i liked the size of the event, perhaps a larger AITBF tent but thats it really.
the jumble sale
was a stall next to the bandstand 'meeting point'. It had every deftones album and some dresses.
The problem is..
That the deluge of festivals springing up to satisfy the trend for live music inevitably means festivals are held at completely inappropriate venues, one can't expect a central London park to provide music at proper levels whilst meeting required volume laws. It was niave of me to go really, I haven't been to a good English festival this year held outside (in england).. Field Day/Galstonbury was very quiet whilst Dot to Dot/Supersonic and Primavera were excellent (Melvins anyone?). I just don't think that first time promoters thrust into large scale festivals can expect to properly cater (and even large scale festivals are being increasingly disrupted by volume requirements). I find it hard to blame the promoters, just the people who push inappropriate festivals out to satisfy their own greed.
Obviously the toilets/bar situation was entirely avoidable, indicative of cost cutting or lack of pre-planning.
This Tom bloke
sounds like an arrogant cunt
...
I think some of the complainer people need to get over themelves. There was obvious problems, complaints were made, they have been answered (admittedly not fully, but at least they were answered) and promises have been made for next year.
What's the point in hammering on about isolated stuff like security, who incidentally, seemed fine to me. Get on with your life and look forward to the next festival. Out of the people I was with everyone stayed until the end and overall had a good day, whilst acknowledging it could and should have been much better. It was a bit harder to have a good time with all the queues, but there was still plenty to enjoy.
If it's like that again next year then, fair enough, it will probably not exist as a succesful festival. Until then, give it a break. It would be cool next year if they had some sort of unsigned / new bands stage, could possibly solve the problem of there being too many popular acts.
profiteering
tom, just how much money did you make from other peoples' abject misery?
My two cents (like you care)
1) Queues for the toilets were large, yes. More needed.
2) Queues for the bars were large. Which put me off getting any beer at all. Big deal, so I wasn't drunk.
3) Set times were short. Annoying.
4) Homefires stage clearly too small for the caliber of the acts.
5) Too manys bands. They could've had fewer bands and longer set times.
6) As far as I was aware, most of the food places were the same (BBQ grill stuff). I was under the impression there was a bit of variety.
7) Stalls and such were pushed very much to the sidelines (almost literally). I thought the main emphasis on this (apart from the bands, obviously) was a "fete" feel to it. Why wasn't that emphasised more?
I can't be arsed to think of any more. But I had a great time, and I would definately go again. That's if another small festival hasn't popped up and taken its place by next year...
hmm...
watching a man dressed as a fox take part in the tug of war was pretty amusing.
i had a cup of peppermint tea. that was nice.
the bugged out! tent looked pretty banging, but there was no way of getting in.
electrelane were so good they almost made me cry.
the shit burger stands were not required.
most of the fete aspects were virtually non-existant.
left at about nine.
would go again.
doesn't cut it.
loads of people had left by the time justice had come on. sound wasn't just quiet, it was shite. still i'm glad backstage was lovely.
I saw that
The least likely people to cause a disturbance i've ever seen, he was wearing two fucking tone shorts for chrisake, and they had a picnic blanket. Only to have four law bringers pick apart all their belongings in purple latex gloves. Can't they just stick to beating up youths.
I didn't go to Field Day so can't comment on the problems
but having read
a) People's posts on the messageboard
b) DiS staff's comments on the problems
c) This article
I have to say this looks more like a propaganda piece than anything I've ever read on DiS. Given the number and nature of complaints on the board, this does seem a set of questions designed to give the organisers the easiest ride possible.
really?
summer sundae was so close..
" I think if people had really got pissed off they'd have left - they didn't."
With all due respect: bollocks. I've got four or five messages alone on my phone from people telling me they'd had enough and were fucking off early.
"No-one was complaining."
Hahahaha!!!
""Yeah, there were these problems BUT the music was amazing” "
Of course. When in this situation, what are you going to do?!? The sound was utter garbage for pretty much everyone, but the bands themselves put on good performances. They're nothing to do with the organisational stuff though are they??
a few things....
1) In general my dealings with Tom have come across well, he seems like a good guy- Homefires in general have been good (but badly attend this year)....All the other Eat Your Own Ears shows seem to go without a problem...
2) Line up was good- adding a couple more thousand tickets at the last- not good.
3) For the same kind of music but a better line up- End of the Road----especially if your going to travel a massive distance-
4)Let this be a lesson to all future festival promoters- Always over budget toilets- then at least you have less complaints- more food stalls ( non meat please)....
5)DIS- if there are big complaints from YOUR readers, you should put up more than the simplist patsy questions.
i.e . our readers have posted lots of complaints- (list some complaints)- how do you answer that?
I didn't go to Field Day
but having read a lot of comments about it I feel like I did. I really don't like this attitude that because some people had a good time (I suspect making the best of a bad situation) and the line up was good that peoples' complaints are invalid.
All festivals
are poorly run and over-rated now.
rubbish
there are more good festivals than ever before...
bestival
primavera
the ATPs
green man
end of the road
its just that there are more festivals in general, thus more shite ones. i wouldn't have expected field day to be one of the shitly run ones.
Before I was just annoyed
but now they've actually angered me! They've brushed off all the complaints people had. Their one defence is the "The bands were good". Yeah they were, but that doesn't invalidate evey other other grievance.
But mainly, I'm really, really glad backstage was great. Most of been lovely for you.
this article
was supposed to save their asses? bad luck
the problem with
whinging about sound levels is that they're unlikely to get louder, with the rise of daily mail-ers and wee frees on councils (and in communities) anyone who is seen to be too loud is going to stamped down on to the point of taking the piss.
This
leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
"Backstage was really good"
well, whoop shit. What a cunt.
incidentally
the backstage / VIP bit that I could go in was rubbish. Massive queues for the privilege of paying £3 for a can of Fosters. I'm sure there was a better bit for the actual bands (although quite a lot of the performers were hanging around there).
Anyway, like I said, they fucked up a bit, it will be better next year; it certainly doesn't negate all the really good gigs that EYOE have done. And all these 'what a cunt' posts are completely pointless and unhelpful.
maybe
he does sound like a fucking clueless, arrogant cunt though.
EYOE
R
CUNTZ
SOZ
Hmph.
If DiS were bothered about the organisers responding to the criticism surely the questions should have touched on specific points a bit more rather than giving them vague questions they can wriggle out of easily? It's not like punters criticisms aren't well documented on these very boards. :(
Is this the same tom baker
who played doctor who?
If so then i can see why he wouldnt have had much experience putting on festivals.
No one left?
Thats bollocks.
Liars tent was only just full. Fourtet had less people there than Adem did. Justice was emptying by the second. I stayed til the end and had an alright day, but he's obviously not been reading the same threads / posts that I have. There were some amazing bands there - ture. But there were fewer than 5 decent perfomances during that time.
And where was the Welly Throwing????
Thats the real crime in all this...
Attention: People moaning about being stuck in queues
I appreciate it was necessary after 2pm to queue, and that getting food was a bit bad, but come on....
You have the option to get a pint. And buying one of those fellas means you'll be in another queue within the hour I'm guessing.
Just don't blame queuing on you missing lots of bands - you saw the situation,and thought it was worth it. Deal with it...
Festivals are about the MUSIC, and then the food and drink is a bonus. Not the other way around.
I'll get off my high horse now, before I say something rude like "Fuck off back to Gordon Ramsay" or blame you for the dearth of boring Gastro pubs in London...
agreed
I didn't drink anything from about 7pm onwards, yet still stayed until 11pm and enjoyed the music that was on (aside from the sound). People missing bands because they were queuing for a beer
I'm not saying people don't have legitimate complaints, just some people (not all) sound like the sort of people who enjoy complaining. Incidentally, the atmosphere in the dance tent was wicked. Before the indie kids make a broad generalisation about drugs, I think it was an attitude thing more than anything else.
food and drink is a bonus?
Are you being serious?
Wow! I'm really surprised
by how strong some of these comments are. I must admit I didn't attend Field Day but I did win tickets which I gave to some mates because I couldnt attend. They' re both veteran gig/festival goers and though they did admit the queues were busy, they were no worse than some other festivals they've attended. They told me that the atomsphere was pretty good but did comment on the sound levels (but it was central London, near a residental area).
However in my opinion the line up on paper was a bargain for £20 odd quid and though I dont know Tom. I've found from personal experience that 'Eat Your Own Ears' events are usually thought out and pretty good. In the past they've given the impression that they're music lovers first, promoters 2nd and do really care what the fans/punters think. Unlike some other organisers/companies I could mention.
Clearly mistakes were made and some of them appear to be a little naive on their part but fair play to them for having a go to try and entertain 10,000 people. I just hope for everyone and for the organisers sake that next year they get it spot on!
I wish I spent more time in the Bugged Out tent
it looked great but I just couldn't get anywhere near it :(
Well... yes...
I didn't go there just to get hammered, which is what 80% of the complaints stem from. "They ran out of wine"... "I had to queue for an hour to get a beer"
I agree, the choice of food wasn't varied enough, but aren't peoplee losing sight of what got us all there in the first place.
For me, it was the words:
Fourtet
Justice
Battles
Late of the pier
Liars
Adem
Caribou
Fanfarlo
Chromeo
Duke Dumont
+ £22
An amazing article there
Thanks for that. You really helped explain the problems with 'but the line-up was great'.
Way to gloss over everything with half-hearted interrogation and write a biased interview.
This isn't about a few people whinging, this is about fundamental problems with your organisation. The site was distinctly empty by the end of the day.
I really really wanted this event to be good.
Tom, I'm still waiting for a reply to my complaint e-mail I sent on Sunday. Thanks.
have good act is no excuse....
yes they booked good acts, I think if we had the backing and the cash we could all choose a great lineup. However unlike Tom I'm not pretending I can organise a whole festival, which involves lots of logistical challenges, and I think if I did run a festival as poorly as this I don't think I'd act like such an arrogant cunt when it all went balls up.
Apparently they have learnt lessons for next year, well great, I expect a free ticket for next years event, being that it was so piss poor this year or does Tom expect people to pay for his mistakes.
Field Day is the Koko of festivals. They get good acts but it's always shit.
Actually...
thats a massive plug...
what really gets me...
is the idea that everyone should be happy/not ask for refunds because they've learned from the mistakes and it will be better next year. That's largely irrelevant - no one got a ticket to next year's event for their £22.50. this argument shouldn't extend beyond the fact people paid £22.50 this year and didn't get the most basic of facilities. It's arrogant of the organisers to assume that anyone beyond themselves should care about the growth or evolution of the festival. It's comparable to letting someone off with gross negligence because they've 'learned their lesson'.
OK
tell that to my boyfriend who is diabetic and queued for so long for a can of coke he thought he was going to faint, I eventually had to push the queue and ask the woman to give me a can.
It's all about people wanting to get pissed. There were basic needs that were scrapped from us when we weren't allowed to being anything in.
Queue and not you
I queued 1 hour and 2 minutes to go for a pee at the back of the site. There were FOUR CUBICLES there. I would have gone to the urinals but, sorry, I'm female and haven't quite mastered peeing standing up yet. These loos were right next to Homefires and the Bugged Out tent, where there were hundreds of people. At least double the toilets next year? More like quadruple them.
A point no one's made - it was baking hot on Saturday, so to not pass out with sunstroke, you had to drink water. Which we had to throw away on getting into the festival – something that should be made illegal, it's fucking ridiculous. Anyway, when we had water, strangely enough it made us want to go to the toilet. So the choice was piss yourself or pass out. We all left after Battles and TONS of other people were too - the roads nearby were packed with people leaving.
*it's NOT all about
rather
I personally think
you can only legitimately ask for a refund if some of the bands pull out. Say, for example, Battles and / or Liars pulled out and you'd bought a ticket specifically for them, then you should be entitled to a refund.
If people feel that strongly, then they just shouldn't go next year. Simple as that. Am guessing enough people will see the potential for the event and appreciate what the organisers were trying to achieve that it will, once again, sell out. Everyone who goes will be having a great time, seeing loads of bands for £25; people who decide not to will probably be at home getting angry about having no mobile phone reception or something.
i didn't go
becuase i went to the well run, friendly and musically great Licester Summer sundae instead.
But, that interview is ever so slightly aggravating. Its like Michale Eavis saying 'I'm glad it rained because i can see how the drains worked' at this years Glasto. I Would've thought getting the rtight amount of toilets is based on capacity, which they knew. And having the music too low is shit, but you need to expect that for every London gig in a park really.
I think a proper apology will be a good start. If more people are complaining then complementing the festival, then its not a great start for a new festival.
I don't know what to say, really...
...the same complaints go around and around. Repeating them won't change what happened, and my experience of the festival was one of smiling faces and dancing funny business.
I didn't see anyone in a sulk. I saw people queue because they wanted to. I didn't - I watched bands.
I think mountains are being made from molehills. The festival was a good event. Not great, as someone already commented, but good. It'll be better. Tom and company managed to put on a great bill somewhere where so many of us could easily get to (and back from!), and the few gripes are simply born from inexperience. How many of us were there at the first Glastonbury, or Reading, or even ATP...? Remember the first ATP at Minehead? Bit of a queue nightmare, that (no pun intended). But the next two: amazing.
Look on the bright side. The next Field Day will undoubtably do away with the sour aftertaste of this one.
Just to clear things up
DiS sponored the event for no money. We paid nothing, the organisers received nothing from us, and in turn we got nothing from them. We gave them advertising space on DiS in return for tickets. That. Is. That.
Thus, we have no investment, as such, to protect. Look at Artrocker, who did a similar deal: they dissed the event in their review. There's no line to tow here - I, along with many people I was with, had a good time. If I couldn't have got a free ticket (and it was just a normal ticket, just like yours; no VIP or any nonsense like that) I would have bought one because I wanted to go.
If I had paid, I suppose there's a slight possibility I might've been a little moody around the mid-afternoon mark where I felt a drink was necessary. Feeling lasted five minutes, mind. I got some tea. MMM, yummy tea.
I genuinely think that most people complaining about this event really are not seeing the proverbial bigger picture. Most people DID have a good time - I was there, ALL DAY, and didn't see all that many people sat around looking like they were not having fun - and most people DO think it was a good event. As I already said above, there were faults/failings preventing it from being as great as anticipation demanded, BUT it was a good-enough effort to build upon.
Really, if you're still fuming three whole days later, you need to chill out.
I've just made another complaint
because I resent the self congratulating atttitude of Tom Baker and his opinion that choosing great bands is the main element when organising a great festival and this makes up for pissing in public and queuing for the better part of a hot day. Clearly some people had a worse time than others, but to gloss over the fundamental issues that people have with "teething problems" is just insulting. The fact that it was "really good" backstage also rankles. I'm glad Mike Diver had a good day, in fact I'm pleased that some people did. I didn't. Nor did my friends. I genuinely hope they do learn from this year's mistakes, but it doesn't stop some punters from this year feeling cheated.
A LOT
of people are still pissed off and rightly so - the event failed as a festival. COMPLETELY.
Was Mike Diver at a different festival? Does Mike Diver think that the above article is patronising, arrogant in tone and only confirms what everyone already thinks of the organisers?
"I was there, ALL DAY, and didn't see all that many people sat around looking like they were not hav
To be fair though, who looks for that? Yo udon't wander past people and try ang guess their mood. It's like walking away through a football crowd trying to guess the score. Unless someone's openly weeping, you're not going to find out just by looking.
It was a good effort to build on. But the mistakes that were made simply shouldn't have been made. I was with a crowd of around 15-20 people, most of whom have posted negatively in one of the threads mentioned above. This, to me, doesn't say that "Most people DID have a good time". It says the exact opposite. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between? But if it does, that still leaves a few thousand people not happy with one of the events they were most looking forward to over the summer.
have you got shit in your ears?
90% of the bands sounded fucking awful. Not just quiet, FUCKING AWFUL SLUDGEY MESS.
I've been going to festivals since 1996, big, small, corporate, independent and I have NEVER seen anywhere near such a terrible situation with the loos and bars.
Aye
We were scammed fo sure. Most annoyed about the awful sound quality however.
Anyone else
think Mike Diver has misjudged the mood of the posters somewhat? Being told to "chill out" makes my blood boil. As I said previously, I'm pleased he had a good day, I'm pleased if anyone did. Doesn't stop those of us who didn't wanting to vent our disappointment and perhaps have our concerns acknowledged and taken seriously. That's why, three days after the event, i haven't chilled out.
Well I agree with him about certain factors
But after reading 3 days worth of abuse about the thing, it's clear that he and Tom took a different conclusion from the feedback to most of the population.
For every 1 person who liked an aspect of it, I heard from 3 that didn't I'd say. Though in all fairness, the whingers are a lot more vocal than the backers...
My 2 cents.
Sound was the worst thing. Outside stages were dire. Tents were okay.
Queues were too long, but it was up to you (to a certaain extent) to join them.
Food choice wasn't good enough for vegetarians
The programme was a tad expensive at £3
The sets for some bands were stupidly short
The stages were too close together. And putting the dance tent next to the acoustic open air stage was a slight mistake
bands - some in the tents were ok, the stage ones suffered. Few showed the potential they do normally - but thats a general festival complaint in my mind
20.15. "Right! Let's go and see Bat for Lashes. What time is it?"
"Quarter past eight. When's she on?"
"Half seven."
"Oh."
Made me do a little lol.
LOL
This was a disgrace, however I loved Liars or I got to see Battles, The Aliens and Bat For Lashes - incredible".
'THIS WAS A DISGRACE' at the start of a message does not denote a positive.
LOLZ
I don't disagree with you very often, Mike
but on this occasion, I disagree quite strongly. Everyone I know who was at this event (about 30 people), with the exception of just one, views it as a bit of a debacle. Maybe we're all miserable bastards but I actually felt a bit ripped off and this interview and your apparent suggestion that we're all over-reacting has, rightly or wrongly, made me more pissed off about the whole situation. The problems that the first ATP at Minehead experienced were minute compared to Field Day's as far as I can see.
one more thing... :-)
as far as i know, the tents should have been smoke free, they weren't and there were no notices outside or anywhere...
There were at least 2 signs up
inside the larger tent neareer the main stage. Just unfortunately the steward enfocing it was about 4 ft tall and these 3 pissed blokes didn't take kindly to him asking them to move on...
christ
anti-Facebook group? get a fucking life or a job or counselling or something.
^ I agree with this
As much as I would register a complaint. I love people who start groups and petitions.
Mike Diver, frankly...
...has more important things to care about.
yeah
it's rubbish when people make their opinions known isn't it.
Well its a bit worrying...
that people set up Facebook groups just to chastise people. Says the man who started a group called "Whats Myleene Klass done to deserve your love?"....
you're a good example
you've called someone you've never met "an arrogant cunt" twice on this very thread. Nice.
what's your point?
I wasn't claiming to be nice. Plus, the above interview would suggest I'm right.
What a childish reply.
Surely you should care about fairly representing the views of the users of your site?
More important things?
Than replies to threads on forums????
What craziness is this shit?
Barring scouting for a new Southend United striker and submitting a Girls Aloud single review surely nothing in the world takes precedence over an overly long drawn out standoff discussion...
aaah...
didn't see that - i stand corrected :-)
while i find most people's complaints and comments valid and all that, pls count me in for those who still enjoyed it - i thought the bands that i managed to see were all great. as for the sound, i find a lot of gigs too loud anyway and tend to wear special earplugs. and i didn't need to wear those :-))
Nah
I'm dead against Web 2.0.
(jokes)
These comments = your voice. Nobody here needs my permission to say/write anything. I don't represent users, and users don't represent DiS (bear in mind that there's a considerable gulf between the number of people that use the boards/comment and those that read the site weekly without ever registering).
And I do have more important things to be doing... this post is the result of a break. Kettle is boiling ;o)
You're a poet
Yet you didn't know it...
Stop complaining...
grandma
Genius comment
Brilliant.
...
'Yes, there were basic errors :
Water... and Food...'
not that basic if you ask me.
Toilets are a NECESSITY. My friend unfortunately had cystitis. She had to leave about an hour after arriving as she couldn't get to a toilet. :'(
hmmm, constructive... I already wrote to the cunts on sunday
and I haven't received a reply yet. Cunts.
You can't blame Field Day's organisers
for your friend having cystitis surely?
:-)
On balance, I enjoyed it
I think I read somewhere that someone said that they had to work to enjoy it, or enjoyed it despite the organisation, and that's about right.
First off, I only got there at about 5. I had been looking forward to it for ages but didn't get my tickets because of what I assume was an honest mix-up between organisers, record shop and me.
I've no connection with the organisers and never met any of them but when I phoned up a few days before to explain the situation the guy was really helpful and said he could see what he could do and gave me his personal mobile number and email. He really did seem to be in it for the right reasons and the love of music. I phoned him on the day and after a bit it got sorted out. That gets a lot of respect points from me. I was pissed off I missed Chromeo and Foals but it was much better than nothing.
I'd like to add that I didn't see a cynical "look after your mates" attitude at all, just genuine organisational difficulties, naive or otherwise. When I was queuing to get my tickets from the box office, I could see various record label luminaries enduring the (at least) hour long guest list queue along with all the random blaggers (who I'm sure didn't help speed things up).
The girls who were in the box office / guestlist bit weren't slacking either - the one I spoke to had been working since 8 am without stopping for a break or food at all apparently.
Inside, the queue for alcohol was ridiculous and my mate and I did fancy a few drinks. It did take over an hour, so we bought 8 pints. They were a bit of a mission to carry at first but we survived. Didn't queue for more than 10 minutes for any of the food and there were soft drink stands with queue at all if you didn't just go to the nearest one to the stages. Perhaps the queues had just died down since mid-afternoon.
The free water tap did have a queue but it was moving quite quickly (though I didn't join it).
The toilet situation was a shocker. It was easy for me to ignore this, being a guy, but there's no excuse for that and the girls were in a pretty terrible predicament, short of squatting. Had I needed a dump I would have been mighty pissed of as I'd have missed bands unavoidably and no re-entry combined with the facilities balls up was pretty unforgivable here.
I'm told there were queues for food and drinks (not as bad) backstage too.
The sound was really bad on the main stage, thought it was fine in the tents but the bugged out tent was too much of a road block.
What I really liked was how friendly everyone was - I met loads of strangers and happily shared food and drink with them and vice versa, including plenty of people who were happy to go and get drinks from backstage to save the queuing.
I left at the end of it having had a good time overall.
I was also left with the feeling, judging by my limited dealings with the organisers, that they meant well but fcked up. No idea if they turned a large profit or not. If they did, then I suspect the right thing to do would be to plough some of it back into a free gig etc.
ok that was a long reply
which I guess I stuck up there for the sake of balance after everyone said "but look, no-one has written saying they had a good time".
Dead right...
who cares what Dis readers, OR writers for that matter, think...
Looksie - some REAL journalists thought it was a piece of poo poo to to: http://music.guardian.co.uk/live/story/0,,2148340,00.html
Amen to that.
I had fun despite the problems.
OK the sound did grate, however I'm happy to concede that was largely down to Council 'enforcers' rather than the promoters.
Look forward to next year. Lets just hope for a sunny day, as I'm sure the promoters will have had time to iron out all the first years issues.
volume level DB restrictions
just a quick note.
the DB restrictions imposed on Glade & Glastonbury are at lowest 95 db, at glade this kicks in at midnight.
Field Day had an 85 DB level imposed.
which is unheard of.
i have NEVER seen that before in any festival / event / venue accross Europe.
thats why it sounded shite.
point over
GREAT DAY!!!!!
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE BEING SO ANTI FIELD DAY!! IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE DAY OF MUSIC... I MEAN...
1. battles (the band who the majority of people went to see) only getting 25 minutes wasn't annoying at all! (and followed by some other band who played 2 seperate sets?? masterstroke).
2. £3 for that little leaflet programme and that rough trade bag thingy... that was real value for money i thought. especially since the line up stage times wasn't even officially released.. ever. anywhere.
3. ladies crouching behind trees and bushes... pissing. my endearing image of the whole day... i should've brought my camera...
i'll think of some more positives soon... :)
the short sets were the worst thing.
for battles to only get 25 minutes was a crime considering they were one of the most popular bands. their set was great though.
what happened to archie bronson outfit was awful. they were cut off mid song then told they couldnt play their closing tune. the sound guys said it was sound restrictions, but if thats the case you turn it down, not turn it off. The stage the Archies played on was stuck in a corner too so only people on one side could see.
good on the bookers for getting some great acts but beyond that it was ill thought out.
I am
one of the few people who actually enjoyed the day - that is because I got a free ticket, just had a 20 mins bike ride from Islington and wanted to see Bat For Lashes and Liars. I normally avoid huge festivals, mostly because of the queues/toilets/etc, not to mention the fact that I'm forced to see many a band I don't like, and I hoped Field Day would be some more intimate affair. It turned out a smaller scale Glasto and I tried to forget the queues, the scorching hot weather and the huge thirst (being an archaeologist, I'm used to staying under the sun for hours) but I can understand why most ppl were pissed off.
That said, Tom Baker can't expect the punters to get over his own faults just because the bands line up was terrific.
No matter, after seeing your favourite band for 10 mins you might end up looking for the beer stand or the loo.
I think he (or the organization) totally underestimated the turnout. I agree with the former poster that the probably meant well, but that is just not enough.
I want this interview doing again...
and doing properly!
The quiet sound ruined my day. Ruined it. Even at the back of the fanfarlo/chromeo (i forget their real names) tents, the sound was so quiet it was hard to enjoy, and when I'm standing a hundred feet away from justice and I can hear the whistly nose the guy behind me has every time he breathes, I don't not just enjoy myself as much as I might, I get a bit down.
Not being able to take water in? I'm a mammal, it was one of the hottest days of the year and I was planning to dance. If you're only going to provide two bars, let me take water in. No, fuck that, I want to take water in anyway. Useless.
Less bands, longer sets. Most bands went on late. Give them more time to set up. easy really isn't it.
profit
I'm sure the profit is nowhere near as much as you say. Fees for some of those bands would have been significant and then there are huge expenses such as event licences, policing/stewarding/security, hire of the site/PA/equipment. not to mention VAT!


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