Knifing the hand that feeds: band slag NME, DiS on eve of headlining show
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And to think, they used to be such nice boys - Young Knives have been taking pot shots again, and this time the smoking barrels are pointed in the direction of the NME and the readers of some website called ‘DrownedinSound’.
Talking ahead of their NME Awards show performance at the London Astoria on Tuesday night (26 Feb) the band and DiS were objectively weighing up the merits and motives of a Gossip live album when out of nowhere frontman Henry Dartnall was drawn to speak on the topic of ‘cynicism’.
“Anyway, DrownedinSound is the most cynical website I’ve ever been on,” began Dartnall, presumably referring to the article that saw Phil Collins score an unanticipated rep win over his band.
“They hate us, they hate everything… all the punters hate everything.
“If you look at our reviews they’re not bad, but some of the things the readers say… I take things quite personally sometimes and I go on there it just goes 'mediocre, mediocre, fucking shittest band I’ve ever seen', you just go ‘fuck it, I’m not gonna go on here again’, but I keep going back to it.”
When asked if he had a message for the site’s readers, Dartnall replied: “At least they hate us, I just don’t like the idea that we’re mediocre, that’d be awful.
“I’ll take ‘I hate this, this is the worst thing I’ve ever heard’ or ‘I love this’, but to get six out of ten, that kind of reaction… probably what that shit pop music paper will give us for our album.”
When asked if he meant the NME, Dartnall replied in the affirmative.But isn’t this an NME show?
“Yeah! And they’ll be making money off us… Oh god, it makes me sick the music business. You use them and let them refuse you… (under his breath) gaylords.”
Superabundance, the band's new album, will arrive on the 10th of March, while the full interview with Young Knives will run on DiS over the coming weeks.
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Fucking shittest news story I ever read
Mediocre really
their problem is that they invite it by not writing straight forward pop songs
therefore they don't stand out unless you listen to their songs lots, which given the amount of amazing music in the world, i'm not going to do. i'm not a fan of anything they've done except that one with them being eaten on a farm in the video, but that's just because they are not that good. if they wrote something that stood out and stopped being so bland all the time, maybe i'd like them!
Here's the thing, right.
If you look hard enough on this site, you can find that no band is immune from some hatred. Radiohead, Battles, Sonic Youth, Oceansize, to give some examples- there are people on here who hate them, but plenty more who love them. Every band that I love has been the subject of a vitriolic rant on the behalf of someone who hates them, thought they sold out, etc.
DiS has a pretty vast readership. I'm sure there are many people that like The Young Knives on here. In fact, in that thread, plenty of people seem to like them. So it's hardly as though everyone on here hates them. It's just I'd take more notice of the haters too.
That was sort of a rant, wasn't it? Anyway, just trying to defend my sad, niche passtime.
mediocre
heard their single on the radio the other day and it was extremely mediocre. i quite liked some of their earlier stuff but the newer things have been bland bland bland. why must bands go in this direction? - why can't they go wierder???......so therefore unless its an album full of stonking tunes its always going to be a 6 out of 10. one simple thing they need to do if they don't like it. work outside the music industry machine - do the music you want to hear rather than what you think the music press is going to like. don't play nme shows. thats where all these bands fall down time after time.
.
' they don't stand out unless you listen to their songs lots, which given the amount of amazing music in the world, i'm not going to do'
so you'll only like music that hits you first time because you're too lazy to give it time to stand out? that's a bizarre attitude towards musich!
Some people like certain bands
Some people don't like certain bands
Sometimes people that like a certain band post that they like bands
Sometimes people that don't like a certain band post that they don't like a certain band
And so the world turns.
^ gaylord
tee hee
I really don't like
this band! My hatred for them began when I seen them supporting clor at the Charlotte and the tried to be a comedy act rather than a band!!!
Now now children
It's only music.
IDIOT
Don't listen then you fuckwit
Are you a real person?
"fuck it, I’m not gonna go on here again’, but I keep going back to it.” - I think this allll the time when I come across posts like this.
I LOVE TONS OF BANDS
Just not mediocre shite like Young Knives. They wear wacky clothing and look unusual: no doubt they would be ignored if they didn't. The reason they notice DiS and the cynicism that comes with is because people are free to make their views heard on here! Maybe if that happened more often they'd realise people on most sites think they are boring. What is the point of The Young Knives? I'd rather listen to Battles and get excited or listen to The Wombats and get angry - at least I'd feel SOMETHING. So yes, YK, you've hit the nail on the head. Although I'm sure someone likes them so WHATEVER.
In fact
no whatever. Crap.
What's wrong ...
.. with Ant and Dec?
insert
obvious gags here
If you don't like the NME
don't play their shows.
If you think DiS is negative, come on here and post something positive.
Don't sit and whine on, man the fuck up and do something to sort the situation out.
They really are a rubbish band.
I'm not massively fussed either way about their comments though.
explosionsunderwater
Gary Bushell incognito? You decide
to be honest their album probably will get 6/10
because that's what it will deserve.
That's not to say that The Young Knives aren't one of the best British bands getting mainstream attention right now, because they are. But they aren't THAT good.
Music, in general, really should be better I think, and it's a bit depressing that bands like The Young Knives, The Cribs, and maybe a couple of others I can't think of right now, are the cream of the crop of bands getting mainstream exposure. Both decent bands for sure, and both bands I like and go and see live every now and then, but to say their stuff is worth more than 6/10 or 7/10 would be ridiculous if you are rating against classic albums.
I don't want to tail off into a rant but everything is so wrong about British music, mainly due to the way the industry (the press, radio, tv and everything) is set up, and has been for as long as I can remember.
It's time there was a bit of a change I think.
whatever
some people don't like The Young Knives, some people do. I, however, am firmly in the 'wouldnt notice if they disappeared forever yet wouldn't notice if they tried to finger me' camp. It's a small camp.
Seriously Mr Knifey Knife (can't be arsed scrolling back up to recall his name), relax and don't worry about what people think so much. If you love what you do and believe in what you do then that's all that really matters.
While it must be disconcerting
to play in a band, give it your best shot, and then read some anonymous no- mark making out that you are the spawn of Satan on the internet; you put yourself in the public arena and that's what you get. I don't suppose they mind the same anonymous no-marks praising them to the skies.
that's what comments are for
reacting to what is written. if it was just a review i wouldn't have felt the urge but what the yk guy said is just too spot on!
-=sigh=-
i wasn't really being serious. well i do only like one of their songs, and i have only heard about5 but still i was going along the mundane line
Go Henry!
Your all a bunch of cunts!
^^^
'majorly punchable' LOL
i like the young knives
i think they make good songs that are slightly eccentric in a nice way and slightly poopy in a nice way and slighty rocky in a nice way.
not groundbreaking, but i like it.
I
like the Young Knives a lot. I'm looking forward to the new album.
Some people don't like the Young Knives. They're probably not looking forward to the new album.
Sunrise; sunset
Wankers
the singer looks like david mitchell and they are a boring devo rip off. I am going to rate them 5 out of 10 now, the most mediocre rating you get. Best thing they ever did was have pete & the pirates tour with them.
The funny thing is
they were good at V2006, but now they are just mediocre.
Well he's right
DiS is crammed full of twats, it's what the site is notorious for. Just fuhgedaboutit Henry and keep sending out some of those sweet sweet tunes.
^
The NME is drek, isn't it? Imagine having to work for that to put food in mouths of your starving children?
" all the punters hate everything"
no, you just make shite music. don't blame us for it.
yes
henry is right, i think 'a bunch of pretentious cunts' would best describe the majority on here.
there are far more negative comments on this website (as a whole) than positive. why bother wasting your time slagging off a band?
go and listen to music you like instead.
most of you are just trying to validate your appreciation of music by 'having an opinion' anyway - this to create the charade that you have more of a liking for bands than that you read of in the nme. or, on the flipside - that you hate anything thats in the NME or on the radio. which is a childish attitude.
good music is good music.
and TYK is good music.
so go back to listening to the next big thing
Hurray
for Henry. I interviewed him las week, he was charmingly caustic throughout. For the record, I like his band.
Jesus
Shut up you sad twat.
booooooooooooooooooring....
........ young knives? who?
their big mistake here...
...was reading the music board.
Social board FTW
p.s. I like the young knives
i agree with YK
this place is overly-cynical, and the flux of puerile cod-sardonic shit spouted above only proves this.
for the record, i have heard very little by the young knives.
the Young Knives are Amazing..
...ly mediocre. They talk it like some amped up XTC but dont have one fiftieth of the style or grace. When they try to write a hit, they just repeat the chorus too often and end up soundling like Maximo Park B sides. Maximo Park being the absolute ACME of mediocre indie CRAP by the way. Being, or appearing to be, clever is not a ticket to the big table.
Like the person above said, be weirder or be popper, cos you are not cutting it at being proper.
However I do appreciate and slightly admire the turning-a-negative-into-a-positive aspect to their "look".
Being whippet thin is also not a ticket to the Big Table.
Or else the Enemy would be massive.
Oh.
fuck.
damn.
What year is it again?
Style. Grace. Power. Massive tunes.
Is it too much to strive for?
they are abit dull really
and i dont see the point in them having a moan at a community-based music site...what do they want, everyone to love them all the time ever? this just doesnt happen...
also, i saw them about 4 years ago at the bierkeller in manchester and they were boring then and they are boring now...
also, not that it matters, they are the ugliest band i have ever seen!
to sum up the general inanity of much of the comments above
shit shit shit, toss, gash gash, gash, shit wank.
insightful.
?
Remember when that danish magazine printed the cartoons showing muslims as bloodthirsty and then there were protests in islamic countries where people held up placards saying "death to the infidels".
This thread is that, but on a much more white-middle-englander level.
Band says "can't understand the massive hatred from internet nerd"
Internet nerds say "i fucking hate them, they're so shit and fat"
yeah i agree
and the cribs are supposed to be a band that stands apart from "mediocre" indie but they have never spoke out against the nme, who are the publication who have pretty much forced it onto the airwaves.
what's this all about?!
It's quite astonishing, isn't it, that most of the people here that give them hate seemingly mostly refer to their looks, that they are boring or ugly. This is something so typically English: superficial to the max and more caring about appearance and image than actual content and the music itself. Because their music isn't boring at all, that is, not more boring than most of the other shit and god awful indie bands that emerge from this country and get hyped to death for no reason other than their fringes, skinny jeans or purulent deflexion on their arses.
where's brian may?
oh, its not Mika. but they easily are as shit as the aforementioned.


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