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Bloke Party: Kele lays into the Gallaghers

Bloc Party's Kele Okereke has laid a myriad of societal ills at the door of popular ladrock outfit Oasis.

Aside from simply being "over-rated", Okereke told Uncut that the "pernicious" band had endangered British music, national intelligence and the entire working class.

"I think Oasis are the most over-rated and pernicious band of all time. They had a totally negative and dangerous impact upon the state of British music.

"They have made stupidity hip. They claim to be inspired by the Beatles but, and this so saddens me, they have failed to grasp that the Beatles were about constant change and evolution. Oasis are repetitive Luddites."

Bish, bash, bosh! Strong words, but part of me thinks the Mancunians would agree. Asked about comments made regarding his band back in April 2005, in which Oasis' Liam said they looked like they'd walked off the set of University Challenge, Kele continued to rail:

"Well, it's quite funny. It probably would have been a lot more funny had he not used exactly the same words to describe Travis a couple of years ago.

"Having said that, it's probably a very sad indication of the state of his mind.

"Why is it bad to better yourself? It's all about the weird way in which this country chooses to view the working classes. It is really daft to reinforce the idea that there is something cool about being dumb.

Kele was studying English Lit at Kings College before quitting to concentrate on Bloc Party, but will leave these shores as soon as his band cease operation. Why?

"The idea that your ambitions shouldn't extend beyond getting pissed and watching the football really irks me. It's this idea that to be authentically working class you need to be untainted by the airy-fairy ephemera of education. And it seems to be pretty unique to this country."

Drugs!

"Can there be anyone out there who has never had a line?" Kele said in regards to the media's reaction to Kate Moss' cocaine-gate.

"Everyone I know has done it. Cocaine can be very attractive, very seductive. But for me it's bad news because that drug can really damage your voice.

"The drug I do enjoy taking is ecstasy, which gives a real sense of euphoria."

Who's side/what drugs do you take? DiScuss.

yuss

finally someone stands up to the loafish oasis, supurb from kele.

*awaits wrightylew*

I think you'll find

the singer out of Starsailor had a go a few years back. They're now residing in the where are they now file. I fear for Kele, I really do. He's gonna be mincemeat.

can't read article

laughing too much at photo.

what's taking him so long?

*ctrl r*

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I can image Oasis' response will be somthing along the lines of "ooooggaaaoooggga...brahhhhh!!!!". Probably in next weeks NME.

Everything he said is true, well done sir Okereke.

Pointless argument

really.
Bloc Party and Oasis are two of my favourite bands. Is that allowed? Not according to this "debate" it isn't...

hot air swapping really

Fair points made by Kele, but to deduce the inferences implied by Liam to go that deep is giving too much credit to Mr Gallagher!

Not only

did Bloc Party put out an absolute shitty album, now they're having a go at Oasis like the average 3 grade indie schmuck would.

Aren't they getting a bit nervous about AWITC's reviews???

I'm no Oasis fan,

but does this guy ever take a day off from being so miserable and serious about everything? It's odd because I've been drinking with Tong and Russel and they were nothing like that at all, yet Kele comes across like a real dour Tom Paulin-type in every interview he does.

Liam and Noel

grew up in a house with no carpets. Their mum made Jaffa Cakes for McVitie's and their dad worked on building sites - when he wasn't beating up his kids. Neither were academically bright so they left school with no qualifications, but instead of settling for a life of mundane jobs or petty crime they became world famous rock'n'roll stars.

If Kele thinks that celebrates stupidity, he's the stupid one, not Noel and Liam.

Nah, Noel will say something genuinely witty

to make Kele look like the pompous arse he really is.

What exactly are Bloc Party saying with their music that's so earth-shatteringly original and important that without it humanity would crumble into the sea?

Good point, The_Glory

I think Kele is right about how dumb and depressing tabloid culture is, but it's hardly fair to blame Oasis for that. Noel Gallagher is obviously bright and funny, and his own past comments make it clear that he knows Oasis ran out of ideas 11 years ago.

'Pernicious'?

Last time I heard someone using that word was Gene Wilder on Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory discussing Knids.

He later described Bloc Party as 'Scrumdiddly-pissants'.

Noel only needed one idea.

It was that good.

hmmm

so kele is advocating the use of ecstacy now??

very odd

he has a dig at oasis for being dumb, and then rehashes one of their most famously dumb statements...

"Can there be anyone out there who has never had a line?"

Even allowing him to overlook the over-50s (c'mon, what's the chance of grandad doing coke?) That statement always screams RICH CELBERITY BUBBLE, I LIVE IN A RICH CELEBRITY BUBBLE.

Never done coke, never even been offered it - and no, i've not lived a withdrawn dull life. Just live beyond the horizon of Kele's limited perception.

what a twat.

music with no brain

oasis always been shit.

I don't care

for the advocation of drugs but i do aggree with Kele that Oasis are a boring band to listen to. I've never really thought about them having a negative effect on brittish music but i think its true when i see all those louts linking arms shouting along to champagne supernova. I don't want those people running the country.

"it's bad news because that drug can really damage your voice"

your voice could do with some serious damaging buddy. might make it sound better than the earnest whine you currently subject us to. i don't know who i hate more (musically) the brothers Gallagher or laugh-a-minute Kele.

his argument here is fairly sound, right up until the "who hasn't had a line?" comment. for someone who thinks of himself as a commentator on society he appears know fuck all about the people who live outside his little bubble of Londoner indie-fame or whatever. i don't think i've ever heard a more ridiculous sentence from any of the parties involved in this joshing, and yup, i include the entire lyric back-catalogue of Oasis in that

Way to go Kele.

Agree 100%,whats' worse is all the awful
bands they have 'inspired' like Kasabian,The View and The Twang,all utter shite.

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Such as..."they look like they just came off the set of University Challange."

Pure wit.

Also, I love when people confuse the musicians with the music they make.

That was Liam.

And he didn't use those exact words. It was funny the way he worded it. Natural wit, see.

And who's confused? Not me. At least I can answer straight forward questions.

They aren't running the country, you div.

They're just singing. And if you were any more of a Daily Mail reading snob you'd actually be living in Surbiton next door to Felicity Kendall in 1975.

*raises hand*

I've never had a line.

You forgot Arctic Monkeys.

Better than Bloc Party by a trillion light years. Another band Kele has slagged off for being stupid, by the way.

How radical

to have a go at Oasis. What will he do next? Tell us he hates marmite? The world's ears are pricked!

The celebration of stupidity?

Kele knocks Oasis, and England in general, for the celebration of stupidity, and how this seems to be unique to his England (it's not, I assure you), and yet he also claims that "Everyone has done a line" and drugs, and seems to condone drugs in general, meaning he's not fussed about it.

This is quite similar to celebrating his own stupidity, along with the rest of England's, really.

And where would he move? Which country celebrates intelligence?

And while I don't like Oasis, I don't think Bloc Party's lyrics are good. They're quite average, or worse.

cock

what always bothers me most about cocaine (besides the fact it seems to turn people into even more vain and shallow versions of themselves) is the effect buying and using it has on a) our culture and b) the places where it's grown and the people who import it. what kind of angst-ridden left-wing liberalista like kele doesn't take these things into account? his main problem is something useless like 'it's bad for my voice'.

cock.

album for album

kele should probably stfu. definitely maybe.....what's the story morning glory vs. silent alarm....weekend in the city. is there a question. even a tiny one.

You're all idiots.

Liam sits there, and says about five words. 'They look like University Challenge contestents.'.

And suddenly, everyone's up in arms. The fact Kele responded to this clear provocation is ridiculous of him. Liam's done it to get a rise, and guess what, Kele's taken the bait.

Its like me and DiS. Leave one post in a thread, and watch all hell break loose, from people who claim to be more intelligent than the instigator.

Guess what? Liam's the genius. Kele and everyone else crying about it are the chimp-brained fools.

Wake up.

Yes

you have a point,Oasis are more known for their putdowns of other bands these days,it keeps them in the minds of the music buying public,lets face it their 'songs' have been less memorable for ages.

Doesn't matter.

Franz Ferdinand did what everyone of these idiotic Southern twats should have done, and laughed it off with ease. Alex just said 'Well, if that's his opinion, fair enough.'

Its like that wanker from Klaxons at the NME awards. 'We're glad you hate us Noel.'

Get off the stage, you embarrassing nobody.

i don't think

you can blame Starsailor's downfall on Liam/Noel insulting them.

^

I don't like all this hate.

Theres a lot of abuse flying round its not good for anyone.

That was 'Vermicious'...

...pernicious is just a word.

^word

I like to turn my nose up

at oasis as much as the next man, but still - you're not Damon Fucking Albarn, and if everyone I knew had done cocaine I would take it as a sign to take a long hard look at the bloated lie you're living.
Seriously. Fuckwit.

musicians

especially those in the media, should never talk about what drugs they take. Do they not realise how many easy influenced kids are going to absorb what is said? I realise a lot of the responsibility is on the editor of the article and the publisher of the magazine/whatever, but it's silly. There was an article in kerrang a few years ago that centred around Bert McCracken saying he loved being off his tits on mushrooms....

I might sound like an old cunt but it's irresponsibly to print things like that.

Huff.

Hooray!

It's The_Glory, back again to stand up for the underdog, for honesty, fairness and justice on the DiS boards.
Oh, wait...

'scuse me

but what exactly is "genius" about trying to get a rise out of people? What's good about trying to upset people, annoy me, generally be a complete arsehole?

Have I missed the memo to the British public where we were told that being shits was good?

Seriously, Kele's got every right to respond if someone insults him. It doesn't do any good, but it's still his right.

So, to sum up, all musicians who spend any portion of their time insulting others, trying to deflect notice from their inept, appalling music by saying "X is a cunt" or somesuch needs to piss off and concentrate on making their over-hyped, over-rated, over-sexed band less interminably shit. YOU SHOULD HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH YOUR TIME

I think Mr.Bloc Party

is alienating any potential fanbase.

You have people growing up with Oasis being one of their influences and reasonings to listen to music.

I tell you he's alienated me with his views on the working class. He's been very ignorant and taken every person of the working class as a die-hard Oasis fan. Who does he think he is? Tony Benn?!? Ben Elton?? Elton John?!? John McClane?!? Who is he to become a society breaker.

He references drugs, almost over-riding his view.

He reacted to a silly little playground thing and makes some sweeping statement. He failed to look beyond Liam Gallacher, who most of the working classes would describe has a prick. He think he forgot Noel Gallacher, generally makes valid, strong statements with some evidence behind them, although they are often a simplistic statement.

He's almost a hypocrite in that he writes about this 'orrible country and the society he lives in. Yet saying 'Everyone I know likes Cocaine' means he has some acceptation of it all, he's quite fine in his life. He's believed his own hype.

He's gone down in my estimation and I suppose in many others.

Oasis are indeed the most overrated band of all time.

Oasis make music? What? This is news to me, I thought they were critics of anything not loud and boorish.

Liam and Noel need to wise up to the fact that Oasis will never be a great band because they are incapable of producing consistent quality.

i always thought bloc party were anti- drugs

that's one of the reasons i like them so much, they seemed to be an alternative from all the pete doherty/ libertines/let's all take drugs shiteness. that and of course their music is a million times better than bands like that.
i still like them but that ecstasy comment at the bottom kind of lets me down.

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A boring band slagging off another boring band? hold the DiS presses!

true.

cocaine is horrible. i've found that the people who take it have no personality when they're not on it. and i get the feeling that kele was talking about ecstasy with the air of chemistry student who has never experienced true euphoria.

methinks he's trying to gain some credibility, but is looking even more twattier.

Yup

...

No but Oasis got a lot of people

listening to music. Many people's first introduction to music which leads to great things. Oasis were many people's band when naive and young.

Liam and Noel will always be like kids in the playgrounds. It's above chaps like Kele to carve out a decent personality (I thought he had one until today), Paul Smith of Maximo Park manages to perceive himself as a likeable chap without any kind of slagging off.

i agree

as much as i love bloc party, it kind of lets me down to hear kele talk about drugs like that so loosely. not everyone does cocaine and that statement kind of ruined everything before that. either way i still love them to death but i feel like he just shined a bad light on himself and the band really.

no

it really is euphoric.

or can be, at least.

get off

the forum, you embarrassing nobody.

oi The Glory

Come here. No closer. Little bit closer. Just a teeeny bit more...OASIS ARE FUCKIN SHITE!

ecstasy is ace

...until the crushing comedown in the morning.

but personally, safe on kele for being honest about drug use. It is possible to USE rather than ABUSE drugs.

Same question

This time at Oasis

agreed

but even then, that line about ecstasy just seems like a frankly stupid thing to say.

i hope he isn't joining the bandwagon started recently by Lily Allen in thinking they can just slag pretty much everything they take an irking to.. and if he does fall into this bandwagon then can he please do it in an educated manner, and not just sound blunt and irritating like the gallaghers.

2 words

brian hervey....ta ta kele ta ta

Twaddle spout

Oasis, once great now dull but Noel has charisma and is pretty funny in interviews (if not a bit up his own botty). Bloc Party haven't really stepped up from dull. Liams voice has gone on holiday in a faraway cave and has left behind some strange foghorn bark instead. As for drugs. Well, I was up all night on Friday on the old sniff and MDMA powder and had a marvellous time. Mainly because I ponced off everyone else who was mug enough to pay £50 for a gram of knob shrinker/ego inhaler. Felt a bit tired since then though. Plus my sleep pattern has gone odd and I keep getting thse FUCKING MOOD SWINGS!! Drugs eh.

Hear hear

Good job Kele.
Oasis make a couple catchy tunes and suddenly they're hailed as Gods. Noel thinks he can get away with so much but he's just a lout.

!!!

FUCK OFF KELE. YOUR LAST ALBUM WAS WANKATRON.. PISS OFF AND STOP KNOCKING OLD AGE PENSIONERS

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