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New Order: now over?

New Order's Peter Hook has suggested that the band are as good as over, telling Argentinian newspaper Pagina/12 that the Manchester group's recent performance in Buenos Aires' Club Ciudad might turn out to be their last.

Hook's bandmate Stephen Morris was a little more optimistic, though, saying that the band were just going to see what happened.

Morris said:

"We've got seven songs left from Waiting For The Sirens' Call (the band's last LP) and we didn't want to make an album that was the rest of another one. Besides, Waiting For The Sirens' Call wasn't a successful enough record for our label to say, 'Yes! Yes! Yes!', but more like, 'Uhmmm, maybe'. This is strange time to be New Order.

"It was good [in 2005] when everyone was saying we were 'Godlike Geniuses' (the band won said gong at the NME awards) and the fans recognised the band. There are a lot of New Orders around and we're the old guys of the neighbourhood, so we should stop for a while and let them take our place.

"I could say there won't be New Order for a couple of years, but as I said before we're bad at planning things so let's see what happens."

So, have New Order had their time? Have they flogged a dead horse for the past couple of records, or are they still a creative force to be reckoned with? DiScuss, if you like...

i really liked Crystal

but the last album got about 3 spins before being filed, and MY GOD the lyrics just keep getting worse.

Crystal?

chu, i mean Get Ready.

Sumner

looks very uncomfortable playing live these days.

One thing is for sure, they should never be allowed to play Joy Division songs again, these days they just ruin them

shame

the killers have raped this corpse dry, and the new lot of bands ripping them off is just the crusty remains of juice on their bones.

also doesnt this show how fickle nme is?

no way

this can't be true.i saw them on monday.and hooky is a right flirt.i think they can knock out a few more alright albums.

i kinda hoped that

their John Peel Day gig last year where they played ONLY Joy Division songs would be the last time. i doubt it was though.

If KLF get Godlike Genius next year i'll probably feel like puking up my own hip. i love KLF and have a lot of time for New Order too, but NME only harps on about them when it's a good way of advertising their house band of the moment.

new order

have always been and always will be my favourite band, the first band i really loved, and i trace my love of music back to them, but everything they've done post-technique has been deeply disappointing. i.e. every record they've ever released since i got into them, which is a bit of a bummer. i hate to say it but they're just so irrelevant now. i wish they would stop, they are tainting their own achievements...

i don't know why they got the 'godlike genius' award

'blue monday' was a good song, but after hearing it about a million times, it gets boring.

they were great as joy division, but that's it.

Still relevant

Live they are still incredible. The recent Wembley gig proving that case.

A bit of shodiness now and again is the spirit of New Order, this is what sets them apart from other bigger bands whos days really are past (U2, Oasis) who just continually plod round the circuit promoting MOR bullshit.

The last lp wasn't awesome, but at least they tried to push it forward and attempt to use some new influences (Italohouse).

And why the fuck shouldn't they play Joy Divison songs live? Answers please. And don't fucking answer until you have seen them play them live in the last few years.

Any doubts about their 'godlike genius' should go and listen to some lps rather than just Blue Monday. Start with Power, Corruption & Lies. Just listen to that one lp then come back and tell me they are not one of the greatest bands this planet has ever seen.

Hasn't he always?

They've never liked playing live really.

I think

you should listen to 'Technique'.

"why the fuck shouldn't they play Joy Divison songs live?"

Because they quite frequently make great songs sound rubbish. That's why.

fuckwit

So when did you hear them do that then? Compared to which paticular Joy Division set?

They are their fucking songs.

The last 2 albums were

real growers and the songs they do live are great. And I liked the Joy Division stuff - Atmosphere was amaxing. I just hope that the fans of the new bands will go on to find its source - the legendary New Order!

There is absolutely no need

for personal insults. I'd have given you a sensible answer if you'd asked me like a grown-up, but as it is you can go fuck yourself.

Fuzzy logic

You started the insults then try to finish them? No need for more insults from me seems you have made yourself look stupid all by yourself! Clever boy!

"You started the insults then try to finish them"

What? You are a moron. I asserted that when New Order play Joy Division songs live, they frequently sound rubbish. Unless you're Sumner in disguise, your claim that this is an insult to you is ludicrous.

oh no...

this is very sad news... but again, it happened before.

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