iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
I'm no environmental crusader myself - we only got a recycling bin in my office a couple of weeks ago - but this message from The Green Guide seems to suggest that the makers of the world's favourite personal stereo are taking the substantial piss:
Apple claims that environmental protection is a priority for them but they actually lag behind companies like Dell and Hewlett-Packard in offering take back programs for their products.
The diminutive iPod is a time-bomb for our health and environment because of the toxic metals that will either go into incinerators or landfills.
On the eve of Earth Day, April 21st, Apple will be holding their annual shareholder meeting. Representatives of the ComputerTakeBack campaign will be attending the meeting to ask Steve Jobs to redesign the iPod and establish recycling programs for existing iPods. He should do it and he will do it if enough of us get our message to Apple before the meeting.
Please join with environmental leaders and concerned citizens who are leaving voice mail messages for Steve Jobs. It takes just a moment to call 206-203-4948 and leave a message.
Also, help spread the word to your friends and colleagues. Encourage them to visit the web site, www.fixitapple.com. It is important that as many people as possible ask Apple to make the iPod green.
Please forward a message about the campaign to your friends.
Thank you for helping us protect our health and our environment.
The Green Guide
So, what do you reckon? Actually sounds somewhat serious, doesn't it...?
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iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
I imagine in 50 years it's going to be in all the news like what's happening with fridges right now.
"We just don't have enough space to dump all of them safely!"
"We just don't have enough space to dump all of them safely!"
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
Ha! For once, I win..I still listen to tapes. Now, where's my copy of 'We Can't Dance'?...
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
Wow. That's quite interesting.
I already hate iPods for other reasons. Mostly because they're not very good. I guess this is another reason.
I already hate iPods for other reasons. Mostly because they're not very good. I guess this is another reason.
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Jeez. More anti-iPod propaganda from Diver! I wanna know how much iRiver have paid him...
Er, yeah this is pretty bad though.
Er, yeah this is pretty bad though.
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I'm not anti-iPod, as such. It's just that I'm yet to feel the need to spend x-amount of money on a player when I could spend the same amount on a tonne of CDs for my perfedtly good CD walkman.
Since I spend most of my travel time listening to review CDs, it'd be silly to get an iPod. That said, I can see the appeal for long trips/holidays/etc... just not the 9-5 grind.
Yet.
Since I spend most of my travel time listening to review CDs, it'd be silly to get an iPod. That said, I can see the appeal for long trips/holidays/etc... just not the 9-5 grind.
Yet.
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
everyone i know that has an iPod has about 10 cds, but they still paid extra to have a 40Gb version.
World Gone Mad!
World Gone Mad!
Re: iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
And it's that big car, small dick mentality, that has made Apple bazillions of dollars.
Everyone I know who has one has had it freeze. I dont really see the point, but i still want one. What is wrong with me?
Everyone I know who has one has had it freeze. I dont really see the point, but i still want one. What is wrong with me?
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Maybe you have a small dick.
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
Aren't you all missing a trick? Bung your huge amount of average cds on the iPod (actually I have an iRiver) and then sell them, thus funding the iPod/iRiver! I also went for the 20Gb not 40Gb as in no way do I have that many good albums.
This is tha same problen as mobil phones, which people get through at a stupid rate just to keep up with what is 'cool'. Anyway, CDs are incredibly enviromentally unfriendly, almost always being made from virgin resources rather than recycles materials.
The simple truth is that we're humans - we're gonna fuck up the planet & die. I'm gonna do the right thing and support the campaign!
This is tha same problen as mobil phones, which people get through at a stupid rate just to keep up with what is 'cool'. Anyway, CDs are incredibly enviromentally unfriendly, almost always being made from virgin resources rather than recycles materials.
The simple truth is that we're humans - we're gonna fuck up the planet & die. I'm gonna do the right thing and support the campaign!
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I have a 20gb iRiver, which I got about a year ago.
I filled it up ages ago. I have at least 5 gb of GOOD stuff that is not on there now.
I want a 40gb one. But like Mike_Diver said, that money could be spent on CDs.
:(
I filled it up ages ago. I have at least 5 gb of GOOD stuff that is not on there now.
I want a 40gb one. But like Mike_Diver said, that money could be spent on CDs.
:(
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
I know loads of people with iPods and they all have about 5 albums on them, what's the point? I guess i'm just jealous because mine is 1.5gig, full up and scratched as hell.
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I'm the same really but I just chuck review cd's onto the pod. It's still not even half full with 19.5 days worth of music on it.
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
I just ran out of room on my 40GB, and I think its great. Changed the way I do things it has.
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
ipods will be finished in 18 months... your mobile will do the job of an ipod by then! Save your £250!
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EARTH DAY - HA!
I have a 20gn iPod and they're GREAT obviously?! whos disputing that?! loadsa your fav tunes for you to listen to and be unsociable...Irivers look kinda weak i reckon.Thing that pisses me off about my ipod is the length of the lead: too long with control attached. and the battery life on the olds ones was shite! they got good after sales service tho. sent mine back and forth numerous times with the small problems that piss yu off.
I have a 20gn iPod and they're GREAT obviously?! whos disputing that?! loadsa your fav tunes for you to listen to and be unsociable...Irivers look kinda weak i reckon.Thing that pisses me off about my ipod is the length of the lead: too long with control attached. and the battery life on the olds ones was shite! they got good after sales service tho. sent mine back and forth numerous times with the small problems that piss yu off.
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
I'd get a MP3 CD Walkman, they're cheap as chips now because of the IPod/IRiver revolution.
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Anti-iPod-ism gets on my nerves.
Who was it who said they 'aren't very good'? Whoever it was, go fuck yourself. They are fuckin brilliant, 6 months down the line I haven't had a single freeze of crash or problem.
People are slag off iPods are, basically, WRONG.
And/or too skint to buy one and jealous.
And/or inverted snobs with a meaningless grudge.
It's irritating bullshit.
Who was it who said they 'aren't very good'? Whoever it was, go fuck yourself. They are fuckin brilliant, 6 months down the line I haven't had a single freeze of crash or problem.
People are slag off iPods are, basically, WRONG.
And/or too skint to buy one and jealous.
And/or inverted snobs with a meaningless grudge.
It's irritating bullshit.
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
What's with all the ipod bashing? Yeah sure they're a massive fashion accessory and all people wearing their white head phones and carrying their ipod about so everyone can see deserve to be a) slapped and b) mugged. But I gave in a brought one, 60gig (cos of the better battery) and I've filled about 20gig so far, with over 2000 tracks, use it as a portable hard drive as well, have never opened my white headphones and use proper black headphones. I also use it all the time and it's never frozen, crashed or exploded. The main reason I got it was because I got myself a car and could no longer read on trains and buses. Morel of the story? Only get one if you're going to use it and advertise the fact.
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my housemate really doesn't like music THAT much and is skint but still felt the need to buy a 20gb MP3 player...hehe
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
I have the 60gb pod. Its great and i only get a problem with the software when i'm moving about 2gb of files at once over the USB instead of my USB2 port. The ability to use it as a portable HDD is great too, as well as the photo viewer thingy.
I recommend doing as i did - get rid of your white phones. Go buy some with a decent sound quality. Spena at least £30 on them. It makes you less of a target as well as allowing a decent standard of audio. Another good point is you should encode your mp3 at the highest sample and bitrate possible. Having a shitty mp3 to listen to is just not worth it.
Oh yeah, motorola and apple are working on the ipod phone at the moment, i hear rumours its due at the end of this year/early next. should be quite good - apple's lovely designs with motorola's amazing electronics. suck that nokia.
I recommend doing as i did - get rid of your white phones. Go buy some with a decent sound quality. Spena at least £30 on them. It makes you less of a target as well as allowing a decent standard of audio. Another good point is you should encode your mp3 at the highest sample and bitrate possible. Having a shitty mp3 to listen to is just not worth it.
Oh yeah, motorola and apple are working on the ipod phone at the moment, i hear rumours its due at the end of this year/early next. should be quite good - apple's lovely designs with motorola's amazing electronics. suck that nokia.
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
Taking the substantial piss. Hehe.
Taking the piss substantially?
Taking the piss substantially?
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iPods look good. But there's just the pleasure in sticking a CD in the personal CD player and pressing play. That's the fun.
iPods: doom and gloom unless they go green?
This is an opportunistic ploy for the environmental movement to get publicity by glomming onto a cultural phenom. More power to them.
Regarding the discussion though - I would actually recommend going with the smaller MP3 players - even consider the flash drives because of their long battery life. The logic is that you can't possibly listen to all the music in a 40 Gb player anyway (at least before the battery gives out). Every few days, you just load what you want on the 1 Gb or 500 Mb players (random, new CDs, new downloads, whatever). The downside though to the iPod is that it doesn't give you any display making it harder to bring up what you want - the quick fix solution is to play it back in order rather randomly and click through if you know where you put the song but that can be tedious- the newer MP3 "flash drive" players have displays,though, and I suspect the next iPod Shuffle will integrate a small display...
Regarding the discussion though - I would actually recommend going with the smaller MP3 players - even consider the flash drives because of their long battery life. The logic is that you can't possibly listen to all the music in a 40 Gb player anyway (at least before the battery gives out). Every few days, you just load what you want on the 1 Gb or 500 Mb players (random, new CDs, new downloads, whatever). The downside though to the iPod is that it doesn't give you any display making it harder to bring up what you want - the quick fix solution is to play it back in order rather randomly and click through if you know where you put the song but that can be tedious- the newer MP3 "flash drive" players have displays,though, and I suspect the next iPod Shuffle will integrate a small display...
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I agree with this post 100%. Unfortunately I only have the 20Gb and its a 3rd generation iPod so the 8hr battery life is pretty poor. However i have had it for roughly a year and not a single problem with it.
A question though, is it true that its better to keep the iPod semi charged/keep charging it constantly than letting the battery run out before charging???
A question though, is it true that its better to keep the iPod semi charged/keep charging it constantly than letting the battery run out before charging???
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I have to say I don't own an iPod myself so I don't know about this freezing malarky (although perhaps should warn my sister as she does have one).
However, as an mp3 player they are so pathetic its untrue. Everyone associates mp3 players with iPods, but they are the most restricted useless mp3 player I've ever seen. The only files they are compatible with are music files. So you can't use them to carry documents around with you until you get to a printer. You can't store pictures on them to tranfer to your mates computer. All you can do is play music files on them. Which begs the question; why have an ipod when a walkman does the job just as well and you can show off your obscure and undoubtedly superior music taste to everyone on the train when you change CDs?!
If you want to listen to music whilst travelling, use your walkman. If you want a genuinely useful piece of technology that can store music files as well as any other mp3 converted file, get something like the Monolith (my boyfriend's mp3 player) its smaller than even the mini ipods and does everything above, with a radio and a speed-upper thing (so you can listen to the smiths in chipmunk mode - fun for hours!). Whatever you do, don't get a fucking iPod.
However, as an mp3 player they are so pathetic its untrue. Everyone associates mp3 players with iPods, but they are the most restricted useless mp3 player I've ever seen. The only files they are compatible with are music files. So you can't use them to carry documents around with you until you get to a printer. You can't store pictures on them to tranfer to your mates computer. All you can do is play music files on them. Which begs the question; why have an ipod when a walkman does the job just as well and you can show off your obscure and undoubtedly superior music taste to everyone on the train when you change CDs?!
If you want to listen to music whilst travelling, use your walkman. If you want a genuinely useful piece of technology that can store music files as well as any other mp3 converted file, get something like the Monolith (my boyfriend's mp3 player) its smaller than even the mini ipods and does everything above, with a radio and a speed-upper thing (so you can listen to the smiths in chipmunk mode - fun for hours!). Whatever you do, don't get a fucking iPod.
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Yes I think it is true. That's what I do anyway, I've never let it run down and I've never fully charged it. I haven't had it that long, but I've had over 10 hours out of it in go.
There's various websites that tell you how to look after the kind of batteries ipods use.
There's various websites that tell you how to look after the kind of batteries ipods use.
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It was supposed to be DON'T advertise the fact (that you have an ipod etc)
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'Monolith'...wow...I don't know what it is, but it sounds MIGHTY! I want one!
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I've read through these posts too. And all I've got to say is... guthrie's comment was freakin funny!
I personally don't have an iPod nor do I plan to get one. I'm totally addicted to buying used CDs. I've only got my computer and this shitty RCA boom box to play them on, and they don't work half the time; but $8 is so much easier to save than $150, innit? Immediate gratification is a bitch! lemme tell ya.
I personally don't have an iPod nor do I plan to get one. I'm totally addicted to buying used CDs. I've only got my computer and this shitty RCA boom box to play them on, and they don't work half the time; but $8 is so much easier to save than $150, innit? Immediate gratification is a bitch! lemme tell ya.
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Its mighty but in a very compact way! My boyfriend is talking technological blerh to me. :S
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