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DiScussion: EMI reissue Radiohead's first three LPs - bothered?



To an awful lot of people (many of us at DiS included), Radiohead are a pretty big deal. So it's with a degree of scepticism and trepidation, perhaps, that we should greet the news of their former label EMI reissuing the band's first three albums this week. I mean, we all know they didn't exactly part on the best of terms, and one of the main bones of contention was the band's concerns over the label exploiting their back catalogue.

"We couldn't move ahead with EMI because Guy Hands irrevocably refused to discuss the catalogue in any meaningful way. We sold 25 million records and we have the moral rights over those six albums. We wanted a say in how they are exploited in the future"

That's what Radiohead manager Bryce Edge told The Times in late 2007. So it's now the future. Has that catalogue been exploited? Yes and no. Last year's Best Of release riled Thom Yorke ("We haven’t really had any hits, so what exactly is the purpose?") and didn't really do much justice to the band's rich and varied body of work over the years, but if you look at these three packages (1993's Pablo Honey, 1995's The Bends and 1997's OK Computer), they're relatively comprehensive as documents of their respective periods, at least.

For your money - Amazon's currently quoting £13 per set - you get the original album, a CD of B sides (including material from the Drill and My Iron Lung EPs), session tracks and demos plus a DVD containing the relevant single videos and live footage. For the first two albums, that's the Live At The Astoria film (see below) cut up into the relevant tracks, plus Top Of The Pops and Later With Jools Holland spots. OK Computer's extras disc is less impressive, with only three promos on the DVD plus the same number of Jools... tracks. Failing to include Grant Gee's compelling Meeting People Is Easy documentary here seems like a missed opportunity, but presumably the band and/or director own the rights to the film.

 

Video: Radiohead Live at The Astoria

 

So while it's fair to say that this is still a lot of Radiohead for your money, it's also true that the majority of the material in these sets is available online - legally or otherwise - and has been for some years. Hardcore fans (let's face it, with this band that's a fair percentage) probably own, or will have at least heard, 2002's mammoth Towering Above The Rest collection, an unofficial compendium of the band's non-album tracks and live stuff. [For a full DiSsection of that material, look out for Alexander Tudor's piece later in the week.]

Of course, if you don't own the records in question then these sets are probably quite an attractive proposition. Pablo Honey, although not their best work, is still an essential part of any Radiohead fan's collection (that said, all their full-length releases are), while The Bends and OK Computer are both all-too-rare examples of genuine nine (or even ten) out of ten-warranting albums, and two landmark 90s releases. But you knew that already, didn't you?

And if not... well, here's the inherent flaw I've always found with reissues: I want to hear the album as the artist originally intended it, e.g. sans B sides and extras. At least, here, those albums are given a separate disc; it's always been a pet hate of mine when you purchase a reissue and hear a masterful collection of carefully sequenced tracks followed immediately by outtakes or sub-standard live performances. The CD reissue of Lou Reed's Transformer springs to mind here. But I digress.

 

Video: Radiohead 'Creep' (Live)

 

Cynical though these particular releases might appear to be, you can't really argue about the quality of what's on offer. It's Radiohead. What you can debate is whether they represent a worthwhile purchase. If you're more than just a casual fan, you'll presumably own the albums already, in which case the B sides, live clips and videos alone aren't a compelling enough to reason to shell out the pennies - particularly if you already have the Astoria DVD. And if you're a newcomer to the band, maybe 2008's Best Of collection would be a better starting point (find it on Spotify here ), as it'll allow you to get a feel for your favourite era of Radiohead before exploring further. Then again, you could always refer to DiS' Best Of mixtapes from last year or fire up Spotify and YouTube for some free 'Head action.

The decision is yours, of course, but where does it stop, exactly? Not here, that's for sure. EMI are also set to release a series of twelve 12" vinyls, featuring some of the singles next month - several featuring material that's included here. Whether Hands & Co. is deliberately biting the band who fed his label for years or not, if we keep snapping up these repackaged classics then the Radiohead archive is a cash cow that's not going to run out of milk any time soon.

DiScuss: Will you be purchasing any of these? Or do you already have all the records and extras? Is this just cynical commerce? What's your view on reissues in general? Does anybody else delete the extras when they download a reissue? Or is that just me?

Over the next couple of days we'll be running content relevant to this period in Radiohead's career, and hearing the experiences of musicians who've been lucky enough to tour with them.

As you say the major flaw (as with any reissue)

is the fact that hardcore fans will own the B-sides and rarities and casual fans won't want them but there's absolutely no ethical issue beyond that

Radiohead's issues with EMI are purely and simply egotistical nonsense. You sign a major label contract, you expect them to exploit and try to make as much money as possible from your work. You sign the rights of your music to someone else, you no longer have a say how your music is used.

Radiohead seem happy to take all the benefits they had of being on a major label (worldwide fame, large amounts of money pumped into recording and promotion costs, being involved with a major label at a time when they'd still stand by you if your debut album initially failed ot sell) but unable to accept any responsibility for the downsides. EMI have only done what they said they'd do and Radiohead have no-one to blame but themselves if they're unhappy with the terms of the contract they signed.

Yeah, true

But you can kind of understand why they'd feel annoyed about all this happening without their approval/involvement - like, there could have been a whole treasure trove of REAL rarities and unseen footage that they have access to which could have been contributed towards a better, more attractive package.

Also:

I don't think the band have officially commented on these particular reissues yet. But you can't imagine they'd be too keen on them. There was certainly no chance of us getting any time with them to support these features...

i agree

emi have the rights, they are using the rights, they didnt get the rights in the first place without radiohead giving them the rights, thats the name of the game.

See above

Just because they have them doesn't mean they should be using them as often as possible, and putting out stuff that basically adds nothing to what fans already own. That's my argument. Good to have some debate going though.

Pablo Honey & The Bends Ordered!

To be honest, I was just about to re-buy the Bends and Pablo Honey anyway as my copies are scratched to pieces and I was waiting for EMI to put out a decent B-sides compiliation. I have a bit of stuff but it's on copied CDR's from about 8 years ago. DVD's are a nice bonus though I imagine i'll watch them once and never again! I think I have all those OK computer B-sides on singles/How Am I Driving and the promo's are a bit less appealing.

I imagine radiohead are also nonplussed, but then I don't think we'd be getting re-issues at all if it was down to Radiohead. I doubt they'd consent to releasing genuine rarities either, they seem quite protective as a whole over stuff like that. Stupid perfectionists.

Considering it's well over 10 years since the Bends/OK computer came out they were probably due a re-issue.

That's true

but the only real reason it's happening without their involvment is their refusal to be involved, if that makes sense. I agree it'd have been better if they'd been involved and added something really attractive to their packages but it seems to be them refusing to be involved rather than EMI refusing to involve them.

Wtih regard to the point that they're putting out staff that adds nothing to what fans already own I utterly agree but again that's true of any reissue - they're not things I'm in favour of myself (especially if there isn't the option for people who own the album itself to purchase the extra tracks without repurchasing an album they already own). But ultimately all EMI are doing is putting a CD on a shelf - it's down to fans whether they buy it and, whether we like it or not, if fans buys them labels will continue to release them.

i'm curious about the "scary bear" USB release...

...did anyone buy it? who owns the rights to that image (and the giant-head stickfigures on the cover of the Best Of)? Stanley Donwood or Dr Tchock? what exactly was the point again? that's been one of the few things that seems slightly disrespectful... but otherwise EMI seem to be conducting business as usual.

plus, what about the historical (or should that be "historiograhic") content of the re-issues? i'm assuming there aren't any old (or new) reviews and essays / sleevenotes, because no hip artists want to get involved? still, does that seem like a shortcoming?

Meh...

Maybe if the packaging is swish enough, I'll indulge. But I own *every* The Bends and OK Computer-era CD single, plus a selection of vinyl, EPs, etc. There aren't (m)any songs I don't own somewhere else.

one of my pet HATES is the bullshit "bonus" songs you get on the end of cd's.

i recently got the maccabees album which had 19 tracks or something? thats like 5 bonus tracks. it only came out last year! and i got the mystery jets album last year about 3 weeks after it came out - it already had a cover version of "summer in the city" by jonny hates jazz or whatever. wtf?

still tho, with the radiohead ones, i'd MAYBE get them if it was just the extras (whats the point of buying the albums again?), but considering they're all available (pretty much) elsewhere and with technology going crazy with new toys every day i dont think i'll bother

According to Amazon

Meeting People is Easy *is* on the OK Computer DVD........

but it isn't

they are telling fibs

I checked at work (HMV) today.

Alright Howson..........

Bloody smartarse! <3

The article seems to suggest

that everyone is either a hardcore fan with all the b-sides/demos or a newcomer to the band. I think reissues like this are aimed at the people who fell through the cracks in your prose. I am one of these people. Ergo, I will get this.

In theory a band's artistic integrity necessitates complete control over how its discography is marketed, but this isn't commercial reality, at least not for a band's first record contract. There's an upside though, because I think this release serves a purpose and it seems pretty certain that it would never have got the band's blessing.

i'll buy them

they seem well presented, and it'll be nice to have legal copies of those b-sides
will probably wait till they're £5 in Fopp though

Re: Towering Above The Rest

i've never heard of this, and i consider myself a pretty hardcore fan.

i'm looking forward to picking these up, anyway. i have some of the singles but not all, and there's not really a better 90s b-sides band, is there?

and i agree with mr hawkins re: the major label issue. radiohead got a lot of being on EMI, which they seem super keen to downplay now.

i keep seeing that all over the atease boards, but it is just an illegal compilation of their songs

as for the singles, i have all of them since 1994, and a japanese version of creep, so the only new things for me are on the Pablo Honey CD, but i'm still absolutely having all of these. i'm glad they are only £13, they could have made more of these, but then again, they could have made a nice box or something...

it's another example of emi's terrible catalogue exploitation

if the extra discs had been better compiled, with some kind of semblance of thought, these could have been much better..

the ok computer extra disc is awful - half the b-sides, a couple of remixes and a live show all whacked on one cd..

cutting the astoria show into pieces is also pretty cheap - there's so much content from this band - some great bbc performances across all albums but I imagine EMI were too cheap to clear them and only went with material they already owned.

i fully agree about the astoria show, that's idiotic

the main thing for me is the fact that i don't have an official version of coke babies, nor the drill ep songs. i'm that sad.

the chopping up of one whole gig between 2 seperate cds

is just about the shittest thing i've ever seen done in the name of a reissue. what absolute clots. no wonder blur/radiohead want nothing more to do with EMI. all business, no love whatsoever for the band, the fans or the product. as alex james once memorably said of the american label that issued the 'blur-ti-go' remix ep 'they've no sense of aesthetics these people'

I was in Fopp the other day and I very almost got these reissues...

But then I didn't. They are available as slightly cheaper 2 CD sets without the DVD but still pretty expensive. EMI will eventually release a b-sides album, I'm sure of that.

well

I really hope they do a tour off the back of this. rather than shell our for reissues I summoned the geek in me and got a radiohad widget instead. has a nice little radiohead player :)
http://www.clearspring.com/widgets/49b51b8fe356dd2b

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