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Shout it from the hilltops, the urban decay, the suburbs: here come the socio-political art-school saviours of all musical humanity. Sadly, they couldn’t be here tonight. Meet a pale facsimile of all the bands you refused to care for the first time around.

Oh, ho ho. It’d be too easy to turn their (arrogantly sarcastic?) name into a weapon of wordplay wonder, simpler still to deride their moth-bitten rhetoric. But with such kamikaze at work, there’s little need – after all, what kinda sick fuck carves another wound into the dead?

Angry sick fucks, that’s who. So sign us up in line to sodomize the stillborn carcass of The Ordinary Boys. We lived through Britpop for this??

There’s that sickeningly familiar tone again – the rasping, grating, in isolation entirely inoffensive, six-string bravado. The same endorphin-stripping, played-on-Union-Jack-guitars wankery that chubby Blur fans think they dig because they’re a touch, y’know, unsure about life; not entirely secure with the fact they’ve never truly discovered anything that speaks to them on any spiritual plateau higher than prehistoric indie disco level. But The Ordinary Boys could be the ones, man. Shit, it’s almost as if they have a shared existence as sycophantic fans of The Jam who didn’t ever quite fathom why their heroes left them so empty, unfulfilled like so many teenage virgins lying awake after their ‘first time’.

Now, wearing influences on sleeves isn’t such a crime if that tiny weenie concession called originality is added to the mix, or even a pretence that an idea not conceived by a bloke with a bowl cut 30 years ago is being utilised. But this is daylight bastard robbery. If Morrissey was the Queen – no jokes kids, the talentless old fucker WILL sue – The Ordinary Boys would be fellating him for all eternity, or at least exceeding their current cheek-swelling efforts, to avoid a messy execution for treason. Paul Weller and every guitar wielding ‘mod’ who ever jumped on a scooter to disguise their real identities as rich cunt daddy’s boys should probably have a word too.

Take ‘Week In Week Out’. Maybe, just maybe, try whimpering about the monotonous hard slog when you haven’t cashed a first class ticket to easy fucking street by readjusting retro rock’s cum-splattered, past-pilfering crosshair forward a few years and had the bare-faced cheek to call the results your own. Familiarity sells records. Ask Blink 182. But if future generations become any more Alzheimer’s inclined towards musical cycles, goldfish will be able to buy the Top 40 and still ponder: “haven’t we heard that before?” That old argument also resurfaces – is it possible to be anti-establishment when you’re part of the damn establishment to start with?

Hold up – is that a Moz guest vocal on the title track? Ah, sorry, another case of mistaken identity. ‘The List Goes On’ even puts the boot into popular culture, radio playlists and the press while turning a snooty blind eye to the petty theft it’s fuelled by. Meanwhile, on ‘Maybe Someday’, intensely irritating frontman Preston is “waiting for some inspiration”. Well, if there’s an open goal you have to knock it in. And ‘Little Bitch’ wants to be The Specials. The motherfucking Specials?! Leave the ska where it belongs kids.

Further in depth critical breakdowns of the remaining festering handful of entities loosely described as ‘tunes’ are – give or take the odd satisfying obscenity – futile. Because there’s only so many ways you can politely ask, “any chance you could refrain from butchering those lame impressions of The Smiths?” before things come to a sobbing conclusion, with gibbering, frenzied, desperate exclamations of, “please, just fucking STOP!”

At least closer ‘Robots And Monkeys’ has almost pleasurable Fender spikiness to accompany a rare non-pretentious title outside for a good shoe in, but by track 12, frankly who cares? It’s all as pathetically British as late trains, rubbish weather and ineffective foreign policy.

Here’s the deal: ‘Over The Counter Culture’ is a gang with average intellects telling you shit you already know. Noises this tame can’t be revolutionary, and if you need that explained, The Ordinary Boys will make perfect company in your sheltered province of pointless indiedom.

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Hahahahahahahaha.

Fucking quality.

Not only are you in a good band you made me laugh hard and got a band spot on.

Fine work sir.

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congratualtions adam, a fine piece of writing. not only do you manage to miss the point completely but also make yourself look like a TIT whilst doing so.

nothing like making a name for yourself eh?

ps. i think you'll also find that 'little bitch' doesn't WANT to be the specials, it IS the specials. and a top notch cover it is too.

big music fan are you...

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How to get it wrong totally. Thank you Adam. Its quite clear you have absolutely no affinity with The Ordinary Boys - or with bands like The Jam, The Smiths or Oasis so why bother commenting? I have to wonder what music you do listen to. Phil Collins? Dire Straits? Or would you prefer it if British guitar music sat back in the doldrums and allowed the Pop Idol nonsense to swamp any idea of creativity? "even puts the boot into popular culture, radio playlists" - absolutely - dumbing down of culture is a social crime!! This band are the best thing to happen to British music for years.

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How to get it totally right. Thupa work.
All this ''the best thing to happen to British music shit'', is as poignant, and about as relative as saying ''Gary Neville, the greatest England right-back there ever did be.''
And who cares about ''British Music'' anyway?
The BNP? Jingoistic nationalists plugging for stiff upper lips and Proper Guitar Music. *Retch*
Neanderthals who have an affinity for Wasis and The Jam, Ver Zep and Wellah, and lager, and footie, and The Sun... and me adding an epithet to anyone who's ever been associated with any of those and sounding like an arrogant, stupid little shit, I know. But screw it. The Ordinary Boys are awful. And this review is great.

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This band are absolute shit. I feel your pain.
I don't think it's a case of not 'getting it', as a band this simple leave nothing to 'get'. Unless i'm not [whisper] working-class[/whisper] enough and therefore can't relate to their made-up tales of gutter living? This is the type of band that will attract cuntish behaviour at their gigs; it'll be the lager throwing, fight-starting bunch. People who still think Paul Weller is good. Which he most definitely is not.

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I think you got it fairly wrong - the Ordinary Boys are one of the 'three-star' bands that seem to be so popular at the moment (see Killers, Kasabian, Keane, some other bands who don't begin with Keane). i.e. bands that are actually quite good, but not the be all and end all of music.

However, your review/rant made me laugh my arse off, so I'll let you off.

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phil collins is in no way the opposite of oasis.

good music is.

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i don't like them that much, but why is someone whose music tastes are:

Music taste: Aphex Twin, Karma To Burn, Autechre, Bogdan Raczynski, Shellac, Elliott Smith, Les Savy Fav, Dizzee Rascal, Queens Of The Stone Age, Soundmurderer, Rage Against The Machine, Mountain Men Anonymous (ahem), Fugazi, Kid606, anything Mike Patton tends to lend his name to...

reviewing it? i wouldn't expect a warp fan who's in a post-rock band to appreciate them. and in my humble opinion, there are at least ten parts jam for every part smiths in the ordinary boys.

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great review - perfectly encapsulated the way in which this band seem to think theyre being revolutionary, with their bland rhetoric - how many shit bands saying "normal jobs are boring" does it take, before labels start realising that everybody knows that normal jobs are boring etc etc, and that being patronised by a bunch of indie-schmindie chancers is not what we, the public (in general) want. And as for the issue about the guy reviewing the album not having the "correct" musical taste - what a load of bollocks. Good music is good music - I'm bang into my post-rock and alt. country stuff, but can appreciate perfectly well, music outside that demographic. This mindless protection of bands by their fans is ridiculous at times. This review is one persons (very valid) opinion. He didn't like it - you may do. Neither of you are wrong. But only one of you is giving a valid, constructed argument - the other is shouting "they are fucking great. who do u listen to? fucking busted?" etc etc etc. To say that a warp fan in a post-rock band can't appreciate the ordinary boys is like saying that that twat with the eyebrows from busted cant POSSIBLY actually like biffy clyro or the mars volta (as his choice of t-shirts attests) - what a shit view to hold.

Adam (The Ambers Band)

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Sorry to get a little bit aggressive at the end there, my comments about the reviewer having the wrong music taste were directed at the ordinary boys fans, not you Mr. Phil Vs Owl.

Never post when your hungover - I've learnt my lesson

Adam

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to be fair, the guy from busted probably gets the t-shirts chosen for him by his stylist.

he probably can't even spell mars volta

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ooooow. Angry/bitter much?

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the ordinary boyz can suck me cock. that lead singer with the shit face and rubbish eyes is a big bender., no changes.

i think ive proved my point, right?

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The Jam were good. I like The Jam. I can see that the Ordinary Boys like to cite them as an influence, and i can see that in the music.

But...

The Ordinary Boys are a second-rate britpop band. Easyworld's stuff (but not the recent album) is much better as far as this kind of music goes.

And so are The Libertines.

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i really can't understand why there appear to be such a lot of bitter people on this site.

its music, this album may not be to your tastes but get over it you whiney little shits.

ps. still laughin over your specials comments adam anon.

classic. you twat.

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attention and money is being paid to a band that the reviewer doesn't believe deserves it
he and all those who agree with him are angered by this, and voice their disapproval.
more anger can be rooted at the populat conception of alternative music become too associated with bands that they consider to be of low quality, and, more to the point, quite derivative.
adam clearly believes that having an ear for a melody and a bit of energy is not enough. i would agree.
you wouldn't.

you are being offensive.
it is you that is more bitter.


twat.

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*cheers*

alcxxk, i like you now.

out with the 'oh, lets like every band, oh its not very nice to say mean things about a band, any band'

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yes you're right alcxxk i'm sorry. you don't sound bitter at all.

adams review is not just a review, it is rude and ill informed, as illustrated by the specials comment.

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wankers!
TOB are great new band, one of the best new bands at the mo.
twats!

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Music taste:Aphex Twin, Karma To Burn, Autechre, Bogdan Raczynski, Shellac, Elliott Smith, Les Savy Fav, Dizzee Rascal, Queens Of The Stone Age, Soundmurderer, Rage Against The Machine, Mountain Men Anonymous (ahem), Fugazi, Kid606, anything Mike Patton tends to lend his name to...

I mean what the hell he's doing reviewing the Ordinary Boys??? STUPIDITY !!!

I love all the singles frm TOB! Looking forward to hear proper LP!

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i would agree
apart from the bit where i deliberately copied your shitty little sign off i think i remained remarkably objective.

considering that he probably has a review copy that states that the specials cover is,indeed,a sover, the chances are that he somewhat miscommunicated his view on the cover.
ie: he may look like he's saying "this is a shit song that sounds like the specials"
but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt that he means "this is a shit cover of the specials"
cos the first reading seems derogatory to the specials, who i don't think i've ever actually seen criticised, whereas the second presents them as untouchable, and a bad choice of cover.

perhaps badly worded

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Oh dear God.

It looks like the Ordinary Boys have hired a load of nu-metal fans to make ill-informed insults at a bad review. Though these are better paid than the normal neanderthals, or at least better trained - i haven't seen any txtspk yet.

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where did you get nu-metal from??!!

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why is he writing about the ordinary boys when he likes QOTSA, Fugazi etc.

and you can't really slag them off when you like DIZEE RASCAL. i mean, come on...

Preston is lush leave him alone you self obsessed 'trendy' wanker, and try to forget how he is everything you're not

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how can DIS slag off The Ordinary boys for sounding like other bands when most the acts you champion these days are 80's rip off bands? Maybe its not cool to like mod-ish' music these days?

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This is just Adams opinion of the album, just because he doesn't like it, doesn't mean anyone else won't. When people send stuff in for review, they expect an honest opinion and they realise that it is only one persons there going to get. This is why there should be no argument over whether Adam was the right choice to review it.

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well to be honest he was the wrong choice because there was no constructive critisisms in anything he said just malice for the bands music.

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spot on.

thats what i was trying to say, however badly!

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such an objective peice -I'm sure a great future in music journalism awaits - as for 'rich cunt daddy’s boys' - you're having a laugh - reminds me of the John Lennon song 'i'm just a jealous guy' . Oh, and the average score for 'the boys' even on this site is 4/5!

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The Ordinary Boys.

What a bunch of cunts.

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if everyone agrees that they are pretty decent, will everyone be happy?

the ordinary boys were never gonna revolutionise music in any way, and no one can argue that they are original. but they are belting out decent tunes that aren't offensive. which is fair enough in my book.

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This band are utterly terrible. They are the death of music, an icon to the unoriginality of British pub lad rock and the reason Americans laugh at the head-in-the-sand traditionalism of some English music. The Jam, Ocean Colour Scene, Oasis, These guys. Yawn me a fucking river.

And yes, Morrisey's solo material is purely weak.

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having said that, that Preston guy is annoying....

i remember an article about him scoffing at people who rip there jeans on purpose cos they think its cool, well not trying to sound like too much of a twat here, but isn't that quite similar to people who don't tell anyone their surname, and as for that fringe......

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liking dizzee rascal gives adam the right to slag off any record released last year. and most of the records released this year. adam's music taste shows that he's willing to listen to any kind of music providing it's good. he doesn't think think the ordinary boys record is good. deal with it.

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Good review, but in way it would have better for a fan of late70s/early 80s post punk like the Jam and the Specials to have stuck the knife into this rather than someone who evidently didn't like any of that either. Yep...back then we had the New Wave of Mod, now we have the New Wave of New Wave of Mod. While the post-punk Jam sounded a lot more brutal than classic Mod combos like the Yardbirds and The Action, and were an original band, it's difficult to class TOB as thus. There are plenty of old Jam fans occupying senior positions in the industry, still gagging for some new bunch of skinny boys in suits... TOB and Franz Ferdinand fit that description perfectly. While I like FF's songwriting, they are still very much a retro band, and I sort of hate that. It's all a bit phoney, really... mod was about aspirational working class kids spending hard earned on sharp suits so they could look classier than their peers, and it very much borrowed from the culture of black people who'd come over here in the 50s ... Todays art school boys wear the image as a costume, but it's not their life. It would be considerably truer art if it was BlingBling Peckhamites singing angry Music...that would be real, people singing about their lives, not wearing a image.... but there we are... because we're back on to Dizzee Rascal.

In this day and age it's incredibly hard to be original because SO much has gone before. It doesn't half help if you at least TRY, though.

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"Preston is lush leave him alone"

Oh dear. Please piss off.

(and for the record, I do like the band, but you do yourself and them no favours with comments like that)

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"the average score for 'the boys' even on this site is 4/5"

That's because the Warners 'street team' rate all their bands 5/5. Have a look at a few of the profiles and you'll see the same rating for The Stills, The Futureheads etc...

*sigh*

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the fact that sort of rather daft defending, whereby the fan says to the reviewer something along the lines of "get lost you know nothing you haven't listened to the album properly you wouldn't know good music if it bit you on the arse"

for the record, i've nothing against the ordinary boys - they're not bad, just ordinary. but it's that kind of blind defence that fucks me off.

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yes, but the Stills are damned good

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there is nothing un-working class about the ordinary boys, and they certainly aren'y art school.

no image being worn, just ordinary people singing about their lives...

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nothing to do with the fact that the reviewer doesnt like it, thats what writing a review is all about.

its the fact that he has taken it WAY past that, something that a good journalist should never do and seems to have some sort of hatred towards the ordinary boys.

objective, i think not.

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I'm mildly curious - the singles have been, like you say, 'alright' (did like Week In Week Out though). I've bought a ticket to go and see them to make my mind up, but then for my 7 quid I also get Dogs Die In Hot Cars and Kaiser Chiefs who I'm also curious about... at least one of them's got to be good!

Mind you, upon the recommendation of a certain music weekly I went to see Jet at my local tiny venue, allowing me to start despising them before most people had had a chance...

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Oh dear, we HAVE got our knickers in a twist. 'The death of music', 'pub lad rock'? Before we start to throw around arrogant terms of music depreciation, allow me to tell you this: I saw the Ordinary Boys supporting This Girl in 2002 when they would have been more easily described as hardcore/punk than indie. I saw them again last summer, when their set comprised of songs to be on the album (where, incidently, their audience comprised mainly of artsy neckerchief wearers who were more akin to Shellac and Les Savi Fav than anything that would inspire the term 'lad'.) And I saw them on the tour with Mower, shortly before the release of Week In Week Out. On the Mower tour, if I had not known the songs, and been witness to the previous six months of hype, I would have drawn the same conclusion about them as I did in 2002- their energy and, fundamentally, their style has not changed one bit. So before you write them off as 'pub rock' and return to your so-called not-so-indie beloveds, I hope you realise, sweating and shaking, that you are a hypocritical, genre obsessed, poor excuse of a music 'fan'. And you have no soul. Thank you.

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preston IS his surname you wally! his first name is peter.

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i hate the ordinary boys. everything about them, especially that twat of a lead singer, preston. How long is it going to take him to read that fucking will self book?! I saw them live on the NME brit pack tour and they were utter crap. I was appauled to see some youngsters walking round with their new (and very cheap looking) ordinary boys t-shirts on, which im guessing were over the top of their jet t-shirts. my summary of the ordinary boys..... the poor man's libertines.

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Did you just say you think The Ordinary Boys are a hardcore punk band?

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Thats the style they used to play so I'm told.

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Both times I was introduced to him, he was 'Sam'.
So howzaboutthateh.

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Yes, they are. <3 <3
but the ratings on this site for said bands means nothing.

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i am sorry, i read in NME that he was solely "Preston"....pah, NME.......

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preston, he seems to be trying to rebel against this 'fake' music culture that is based heavily on image, but in doing so only makes himself appear more fake. but yeah they do have a poor mans libertine quality about them, but i'd say more, "the ordinary libertines"

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I don't think the 'working class' exists any more. Everyone who works has become middle class, people who are so rich they don't need to work form the 'upper' class, and there is a nether region of people who have been dropped out of society. Fucked up it may be, but that's the way it is. There was a degree of solidarity amongst what used to be called the 'working class', but now all that exists is classic middle class envy and ha ha healthy thatcherite competition. Te Ordinary Boys... it just doesn't ring true any more... The world of today is more polarised and more desperate, and taking refuge in some past concept of english working class solidarity is like sticking your musical head in the sand.

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first time i heard maybe someday, i figured that they were quite pop punky, not really hardcore. after a few listens i began to hear the jam coming through.

but if they're good enough for soccer AM.......

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Can we stop calling him Preston, please.
His name is Sam.
SAM PRESTON.
Surnames are sooo last year.

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it's not tin foil, it's my new skin.

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ill-informed and unreadable.

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It's to fit in with his nu rock star persona. ;)
Much like Alex from Franz changing his surname...

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don't forget bernard sumner changed his name from bernard albrecht after joy division became new order. so this isn't a 'new' thing

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hmmm

i love the way every time there's a bad review of a currently popular band you get loads of ill-constructed argument and insults flying back.

havnig that said, it's clear from the review adam anonymous thrives on that. either way, i said my piece on this riiiiight up there ^

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but didnt you rate ocean colour scene 5 stars in your rating section?

can we ban him from the site sean, can we?

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How right you are. Empty NME-sodomising wank-rock that revels in its profound lack or originality - a peg on which people with no ability to formulate an independent taste in music can hang their gingerbread man lives.

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Oh thank fuck. At least one person who understands. You've hit the nail on the head. "Who cares about ''British Music''?" Exactly. A-shitting-men to that. Music is one of the few things able to make national borders obsolete, and a good thing that is too.

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Which reminds me. I've got a bit of a cough. Cough, coughmorrissey, coughwanker, cough

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i heard 'so last year' is the new this year.

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Yes, anyone who doesn't like The Ordinary Boys MUST like Phil Collins or Pop Idol. It's like Marillion all over again...

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slagging off nme is very 'this year' don't you think...

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they used to be a hardcore-y almost emo band called Viva Hate, then took some time off cos they thought it would be more authentic to sound "british", which is quite fair
but i liked their old stuff

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I heard that sort of thinking was so last month.

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What band is Adam Anoymous in? Anyone else getting the sense that they're not as good as The Ordinarys?

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*rewind*
I've gotta say 'Little Bitch' on the album, Adam Anoymous was quite right to slate. Its pap, 'Specials' in the verse, and lifting the riff for the chorus straight out of 'Jumping Jack flash'.

I've heard parts of the album, havnt had time to play the whole thing but im not impressed with it at all (the comments in the review, were over the top as i stated above many posts ago, but i'd urge ppl to hear it before they defend it. I've got egg on my face. :P

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here is the truth about the ordinary boys..

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Well, that's damned cheeky. Mind, I'd give The Futureheads five stars too.

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100% true , every word, just ask sam and chuck!

1. the band talk about social/work issues etc, not one of them have ever had a job. ever. in any sense. Fact. remember that fact, it will come to haunt you, as you expalin to your friends why Sam (Prestons first name!) has really made an impact on your attitude to youir paper round!

2. the drummers dad owns a huge chain of expensive coffee shops called Costa in Brighton, and as such when they needed a place to practise, nope they did'nt worry about paying for one like all other bands, simply use one of they many rooms in your fuck off massive daddy's rich pad! (but keep that quiet), the rest of 'em are fairly minted too..so stop all the working class chat right now

3. they whine about the press in one of their songs etc but are reprsented by Hall or Nothing the largest and most powerful PR firm in the music business, how'd you think they get on all those radio/TV shows anyway dumbo!

4. they are a 'priority act' for warner bros. hence the over-exposure (a deal for 1 million pounds for 5 albums, and publishing for 400,000 pounds recently - poor boys! - still im sure it will all get given to the 'poor working class beggars they meet on their tour, for y'know, piece of mind'

5. this band are as manipulated and contrived as any seen on pop idol - from clothes to guitars, they did'nt pick 'em out themselves (in fact trace the NME from january, and see the sudden 'MOD' thing gradually happen in photoshoots staged by, guess who? NME!! its not the bands fault, go on NME ed!!! - imagine the 'hottest new band' teaming up with (let's see..) Paul Weller, HA HA, shit its already happened!

6. boys and girls, get yourself into something else, when they go down you are going to look stupid.

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and im not the ex-girlfriend, just a clever girl

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it's also very accurate

just because a lot of people do it doesn't mean it's wrong
i say burn conor

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their music offended him
what other reason do you need
FACE IT YOUR FAVOURITE BAND AREN'T THAT GOOD

(haha)

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this is the second time in as many weeks that a review/article has provoked so much debate. first Keane and now the Ordinary Boys! so ok, these bands aren't exactly cutting edge, but are both enjoyable in their own way. oh and both are being hyped in the music press so much they're are bound to attract a certain amount of criticism.

i enjoyed the article, but it was verbal crap of the best quality, absolutely laughable.

just enjoy the music for what it is and don't try to make out the band themselves are in any way trying to be different, leading edge. the lads just play music they like and can't help what the press writes about.

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You're right about them not being art school - they went to Worthing Sixth Form College.

I heard 'Talk Talk Talk' on the radio in the car yesterday, and if the rest of the album is remotely similar, this review is spot on.

Apparently Morrissey raves over them!

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You complete idiot IT IS A SPECIALS COVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have a problem with the riff - then that is Jerry Dammers you are slagging, not the ordinary boys!!

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i dont know this.
but surely they can help what the press writes about them.
when <magazine> phones them up and says 'yo you wanna be on front cover? or you want a photoshoot'
they can say 'nah its alright we aren't quite ready yet, we want to see how our album goes down without loads and loads of hype'

or the magazine writes an article about saying 'they are great go buy it, fantastic, energitic blah blah blah'
TOB surely read and approve the article before it is published? otherwise whats to stop the magazine writing a load of shit that the band dont want people to know, or people to read about.
correct me if im wrong please, but it seems a bit silly to suggest they dont approve the articles written about them.

i think they are lame and sound over-produced. the whole point about the jam and that scene, was that the sound was raw and authentic. TOB sound too much like they were produced to sound like those bands.
to be honest i downloaded some single a few months ago for a 99p text (which was a locked mp3 ffs, now its stuck on my mp3 player as i reformated and used my mp3 as backup for my files) and i thought they sounded like really pop-punky almost busted-ish. although not quite as lame, but thats not saying much.

as for the fact that adam anon has musical tastes which dont include liking bands similar to TOB or even TOB themselves. surely if he liked bands like TOB or the whole new wave of mod, then his review is going to be biased towards liking them, but then if he gave TOB a shit review, what TOB's fans your ammunition be then, id bet it would be 'you are a shit reviewer, go listen to it again' or 'obviously you dont get it as you arent from the right class' or 'you only dislike them because nme likes them..' blah .
the only way you can get a completely unbiased review is if the person reviewing has absolutely no musical taste at all.
whoever did that list has hit the nail on the head, as their music isnt real or authentic, and therefore the energy isn't there. the song i downloaded was as about as energetic as a snail, but i havent seen them live so i cant make a judgement on their live set.

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ae1765a it was who made the list of 6 things.

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I've heard they dressed practically the same way all through college.

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thats why i didnt like it then. haha

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How do you think the media works! Jesus "It seems a bit silly to suggest they don't approve the articles written about them???" What planet do you live on? Of course they don't get to approve thearticles written about them!

I suppose they got to approve the review we're all deabting here as well yeah?

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1. All of the band were still in full time education when they got signed, except Preston, who was working. (and who writes all lyrics - therefore is in a position to talk about his humdrum life in songs if he so wishes)

2.The drummers dad does not own Costa coffee - that is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard - Costa coffee is a nationwide chain - it's not just based in Brighton.

3.Hall Or Nothing are a PRESS company - they have no involvment with TV or Radio

4. These figures are ridiculous, very few bands these days sign for any more than 1 album 'firm' - that means yes, if the company want to pick up on the other five albums in the deal, they can, but if they don't the act is dropped. The Ordinary Boys signed for one album firm, just like most other guitar acts, and the figure was a fraction of what you have suggested.

You cannot buy airplay, media coverage or TV shows - so being a prioity act has nothing to do with any of these factors, they can only buy adverts.


5. I haven't even got the energy to fight against the pop Idol statement, jesus, you are seriously suggesting they are manufactured?

For fucks sake.

6. Boys and Girls, listen to this band. Decide if you like their music or not. If you don't, fair enough, if you do, go buy this record.
Where they are from, how rich they are, how many jobs each of them have had, how much their record deal was for - why is any of this relevant?
If you like what they do, support them. If you don't, get over it and find something you do like.

ae1765a I really suggest you do your research a little more thoroughly.

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This is all really funny.

1) You don't all agree on whether or not the Ordinary Boys are good.

2) Some of you are offended by the fact that someone else may not like them.

3) Fewer still of you are offended by the fact that someone that doesn't like them has a very well written review (fact, reviews are meant to entertain just as much as inform, otherwise you may as well just stream a song & not bother commenting) on site.

4) As someone that actually knows Mr Anonymous personally, chooses to listen to his band on my own volition & not just through friendship, and has at least a passing knowledge of what sort of music he listens to, you're all very far off the mark in your assessment of him.

And while I tried to avoid entering any specific part of this 'debate'..

Chris Nettleton

In what do your comments support your rash & ignorant claim that there is no longer a working class in the UK? All your comment actually does is reinforce the fact that there is still class division. The notions of classless society or the erosion of the working class are purely middle class concepts.

Yes, there has a blurring of the class ‘divides’ – mainly in the distinction between upper & lower middle class. But the concept of a working class most definitely remains. Or at least it did when I last looked at a newspaper this morning. If you really believe that the working class no longer exists, go tell it to those parents that are trying to feed their children on a budget of £4 a day.

I would accept an argument that said that the proletariat no longer exists, as the industrial manufacturing employment sector that fuelled the proletariat no longer exists, therefore by association the proletariat is no more.

I not claiming that there is a ‘working class’ ‘solidarity’, as that was a product of encapsulated communities, rather than an ‘us against them’ class struggle.

And don’t even think of dragging up the findings of some 60’s US sociologist to defend your theory (I assume that your comments were based on evidence slightly more in-depth than the ITV news, though I could be wrong), as they are not culturally valid, and, if you were to study the evidence properly, you’d probably just find that they’d made most of it up anyway.


Right, you’ve wasted enough of my lunchtime. Let’s make it simple for you

THE. ORDINARY. BOYS. HAVE. RELEASED. AN. ALBUM. ADAM. DOES. NOT. LIKE. IT.

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Of course you can buy coverage. The amount of exposure a band gets is directly proportioned to who plugs it.

For example, you have Universal Records behind Keane, with a limitless expense account for trips and lunches, sending every journo a CD and a vinyl copy of the album, where as at the other end of the scale, homegrown acts free from the processes of corps can't compete.

National publications don't cover unsigned acts because it's in no one's interests (no one referrs to: the mag publishers who get no advertising and the record companies who get no exposure).

This isn't their fault - it's all a business.

Just don't get deluded that what you see in print, listen to on mainstream (including XFM) radio or see on TV is 'the best new music'. Bollocks.

The Ordinary Boys are shite, incidentally.

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Hang on a second, loads of bands are dictated to by their record labels! It's part of the whole marketing process, it helps create an image, and if they felt there was a bit of mod about them, then of course they were going to hype it up! The only new band I've heard of that has actually told their label to fuck off in regards to what they wear is The Music. Most are too scared they'll get dropped if they don't conform.

And so what if all the lads had a more than privilaged up bringing! Big deal! You wouldn't be slightly jealous now would you? The lads haven't ever made any pretentions about who/what they are, they just write music.
If you're gonna go spouting off about none of them ever having jobs, maybe you should take into account their ages. Three of them are only 18! I know if I didn't need to work for money at that age, there's no fucking way I would have done!

And if I'm not mistaken, there was a rather big bidding war from labels to get them on their books! And signing a 5 album deal is a pretty major statement, especially the way the music industry is at the moment! Hut Records died only the other day did it not?

The lads may not be making the most original music about, but who is? All musicians are inspired by somebody, and yes this can lead to influences being brought into their own writing. But really, name me ONE completely oringinal new british band, anyone!

All music should be appreciated, even if it is cack, because, at the end of the day someone, somewhere likes it. Even if it's just the person that wrote it! So everyone calm down, and next time, maybe the journalist should try being slightly more objective huh?

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i have no idea how the media works.
but i thought that in the nme bands who have had a photoshoot/interview with the nme and are on the front cover,somehow have to approve that photoshoot and interview.
or am i wrong in suggesting that the nme gets consent before placing bands on the front of their cover.

granted its completely different in the newspapers and tabloids. as they can write whatever they want (as long as its 'in the public interest') but if the nme interviews TOB, they know that they are being interviewed by the NME. so they could decline that interview if they wanted surely?
thats what i meant, i think you may have misunderstood me a little.

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"Who cares about British music?"

What a stupid thing to say. Do you think good music grows on trees? I'm in no way nationalistic, football supporting or 'proud' to be British, but if you don't care about British music then everything good about it will die.

Many of the best bands are the ones that don't get picked up by major labels after their first 'indie' single and have to rely on a music scene which is built to destroy bands at the first sign of commercial weakness. In America bands can get away without chart hits and giant tour support budgets. Here they rely on people pulling together and actively CARING about the music to survive.

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the working class are better known as chavs. or scallies. or pikies.
haha i'm going to get stabbed now :(

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"So everyone calm down, and next time, maybe the journalist should try being slightly more objective huh?"

I disagree. It'll sound like an article in a classical music journal then. I like subjectivity and a bit of raw passion in my reviews. I like something entertaining to read.

Who doesn't?

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"they went to Worthing Sixth Form College."

BASTARDS!!

kill all lower-middle class people!!
down with the middle-class!!
up with the lower class!!

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is it bitterness?

or is it simply that most people who can be bothered to frequent a music site where the general idea is to share opinions, tend to do that? the opinions of those who dislike them are as valid as their fans' opinion.

personally they do nothing for me. i haven't heard the album, but i've seen them live, and heard the single over and over and over again on t'wireless. thus far i'm just not entirely sure what all the fuss is about.

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gen

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'The only new band I've heard of that has actually told their label to fuck off in regards to what they wear is The Music.'

That's because they're ugly. Anyone that hideous'looking will be listened to. Mainly because they can't make things worse, really. And I love The Music. Love them dearly. They're my test-taking good-luck charm.

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whats wrong with ocean colour scene you twats?

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Hahaha *snort* hahaha...

Suck off someplace else.

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"Ordinary boys, happy knowing nothing
Happy being no-one but themselves
Ordinary girls, supermarket clothes
Who think it's very clever to be cruel to you"

Is this irony?

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well, no
theyve started dressing differently, especially changing their haircuts, just recently

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This is the best thing since the Conor Oberst slagging. Hilarious.

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...and I know that sounds mean but really vitriolic reviews are just goddamned fun to read. Unless you happen to worship the band that are being slagged, that is...

In the land of the geek this kind of article would be refered to as a 'troll'. And a pretty successful/entertaining one at that :)

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even if you worship the band it can still make for very funny reading.

it is an ace article either way!

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gen

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Adam is in Mountain Men Anonymous.

having seen both MMA and the Ordinary Boys in the last few months i can assure you that MMA crushed the Ordinary boys like a giant standing on ants. The Ordinary Boys bored the crap out of my friends and i, though i really tried to find something redeeming about them i just thought they were dull and stodgy and tuneless. MMA were ace and everybody loved them. The End.

Adam's review encapsulates everything that i feel, and everyone i have talked to feels, about the Ordinary Boys.

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"3.Hall Or Nothing are a PRESS company - they have no involvment with TV or Radio"

They are a press company who are being paid a handsome some by Warners to ensure that their priority act get into all the magazines and get hyped by the likes of the NME. There is nothing altruistic on anyone's part.

Who the NME cover is more about advertising money and the clout of those backing the act than about how good the music is. To think otherwise is naive. The NME need the advertising money that major label priority acts bring. It's therefore in their interests to cover these bands. Has anyone else noticed that the NME has been rather more gushing in the last couple of years about bands than it had been for a long time? It almost reads more like a collection of press releases these days than a magazine.

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Who cares.........
Go by Back in Black and change your lives.

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and obviously as a couple of them have cut their hair this MUST be the record companies at work.

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It's the same with almost every magazine, not just the NME.
So-and-so label pays so much, badabing their band's on the cover.
It's a fact.

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does this work?

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The Ordinary Boys - a rational reasonable argument.

I saw em once last year with biffy, not bad, energetic tuneful, passionate...mmm i thought will follow a bit more.

Cue NME hysteria (followed by the clueless radio 1 support following on from NME cos that's how they pick the bands to play) and oodles of misplaced quotes from preston that piss me off because he talks bollocks.

Mmmm quite like that new tune somebody someday though, singalong and yeah week in week out not bad too.

I'll check em out live again, give em a chance.....

oh shit....the mod makeover machine has been at work....resplendent in 60s rollneck tops, ben sherman shirts, shaven headed drummer and a lonsdale T-shirt said band have been fully shafted up the arse by what can only be useless management and even more useless label people.

And then a week later or something and they're meeting the modfather.

Fuck me they must think we're all completely stupid.

And now everyone fuckin hates the ordinary boys....

and the poor guys in the band.....well who'd be in a band eh?

Its no better than pop idol is it really.....

We need some new for real enlish punk bands....not this stylised contrived and dated shite.

Yes folks, i now hate the ordinary boys and its only because the machine thats chewing them up and spitting them out in the name of making a few quid just didn't leave them alone to do their own thing at their own pace and become something to be loved and not laughed at.....

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they're just quite a bland band, there's no real debate to be had on the matter.

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I think the Ordinary Boys are really good. I'm really annoyed because they played Bristol last night, and I couldn't make it.

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I like The Ordinary Boys.
If I were to review the album I'm sure it would say the exact opposite of what is said above above. However, were I to review a Limp Bizkit album, I would definately take great pleasure in writing something along the lines of "Durst is a wanker and this is the musical equivalent of being gang raped by gorillas".
It'd piss of the red cap/Adidas wearing "Limp Army" but I hate them and am entitled to my opinion.
Reviews are only a guideline and can't say whether you, personally, will like the album.
If I had never heard anything by TOB I'd be straight on Kaaza after reading this review. It doesn't actually tell you much about the music, but it certainly is passionate.
All publicity is good publicity.

Nikki x

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From what I'd heard I wasn't too bothered about the band but this review really really made me want to like them. Make of that what you will...

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I think people are getting bogged down by the reviewers musical taste - surely this is the point of music reviews...you cant pick one of your fans to review it, the record should be good enough to have some sort of impact on anybody with a broad musical taste, which the reviewer clearly has. Personally I love The Smiths, and was interested to hear what TOB sounded like - and what a let down it was. Unfortunately, the over-zealous fans are typical of EXACTLY who the record company want to target. The sort of people who rely upon radio1 as a gague of who the big "indie" bands of the moment are. I appreciate that is an over-generalisation, and may not apply to people on this site, but in general, I think its true.

Their bland rhetoric about the mundanity of working life, and middle-lower class britain has been done 1000000000 times before - and significantly better, and I can completely understand why people are levelling the accusation that they are insincere - and i fucking HATE this persistent use of the Pop Idol analogy, that it is killing popular music culture, blah blah blah....that is THE MOST TIRED ARGUMENT EVER. I physically detest this notion that by opposing something as insignificant as Pop Idol can be seen as being socially revolutionary. Indeed, at Oxford the other day Badly Drawn Boy WON a debate in FAVOUR of tv talent shows. Because that is all they are, quick entertainment - how long has any1 from the shows lasted? aside from will young, its a couple of singles, maybe an album, then the DUMPER. and thats the way it will remain, and why Pop Idol is not the spawn of satan. And I say this as a mogwai/broken family band/elliot smith fan.

Please, no more bland comments on how pop idol is watering down pop culture, whilst at the same time extolling the virtues of a watered down version of one of the Uk's most loved.

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Are there any other bands in the public eye updating social commentary in the present? Nope, okay, well let's see.. you hate britpop despite the fact that it was the only music which required people to play instruments that the people you fucks say don't exist, the working class, actually liked in the 90's. Do you hear them singing Fugazi or Rage in anywhere but your smelly little middle class goth club, while normal pissed up lads bawl Live Forever at the tops of their voices in the local pub?

Post-rock????? What a wanker
Mod is coming back and you can either intergrate or die
Or go and live in Yank land. You don't have to do things like tuning your guitar or or washing there.

PS If anyone wants to reply to this calling me a deluded tosser, I suggest you stop prending to like dizzie rascal first

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Are you dead?

Are you intending to make any actual intelligent comment.

No music style is better than any other. Therefore your comment on post-rock makes you a disgrace to music.

"Mod is coming back" "integrate or die"? Au contraire - mod will not come back, and if it does, it won't be the same will it? Because it's a major-label encouraged rehash. Which the Ordinary Boys are heading. It wouldn't be the same - saying it would is like saying Godspeed You Black Emperor are likely to sign to BMG.

Stop pretending to like dizzee rascal? Unfortunately assumptions only weaken your argument and make you sound like a tosser.

I love it when morons have a rant. They're making a break out of nu-metal land, too. Morons on this review comments, morons on that Easyworld review comment.

Incidentally, I reckon this is one of the best reviews of the year, not just because of the debate it sparked, but because it's firey, impassioned, and above all entertaining. You don't have to agree with it (I do) to find it a cool review. Har Har Har.

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Seeing as I have been given the final word on this album review, here is my conclusion:

THIS ALBUM AND THIS BAND ARE FUCKING SHIT!

I thank you.

I quite like....

The Ordinary Boys.
Think the albums alright too.

OMG

Most review responses EVER???

i have to say i really liked this album

but that review is fucking hilarious, and fair dues.

wasn't he on

big brother?

Yeah!

And that loser Robert Zimmerman tried to get everyone to call him 'Dylan'... Got what a wanker

*God

dammit, it's no fun when you try to be ascerbic and it's ruined by typos

He

went to the same (fee paying) school as a guy from Uni.

A working class hero is something to be though innit.

Disagree

Bollocks review.

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