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Type: Album Release date: 20/09/2004
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What's this? A *Green Day *record, and me, in the same room, and it's not 1994 anymore? Who'd have thunk it?

More importantly, who'd have thought, four years after the atrocity of ‘Warning’, that the world’s perennial jokers in the punk rock deck would re-emerge with an album that’s not merely tolerable, but actually reasonably accomplished. ‘American Idiot’ is an admirable achievement – an album that doesn’t sell us short on the pop hooks of albums past, but one that also delivers a healthy dose of politics to the mix without sounding like a six-legged cliché-riddled embarrassment. How’d they do it? Four years under you-know-who in the White House might have something to do with it. By now you’ll have heard the title track. It’s only the prelude to some 40 minutes of politically conscious songwriting that belies the track record of a band better known for dumbing down punk rock. If this encourages just a small percentage of new voters in the US to take action and make their contribution count, then it’ll have done one of its jobs.

Of course, another job is to make us dance in a pop-punk stylee, and, predictably enough, Green Day come up with the goods: ‘Holiday’ is excellent, likewise ‘St Jimmy’. Much has been said about the band’s new fondness for epic, prog-style song structures (and lengths), but flames of fear should be doused – with the exception of a couple of tracks, most noticeably the multi-chaptered ‘Jesus Of Suburbia’, this is three-minute stuff from top to toe, the latter of which should be tapping in earnest throughout.

I remember the prickle of excitement on my skin when listening to ‘Dookie’ in science class ten years ago; this very nearly brings it all back. A strong return to form.

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Warning was an atrocity? It's by far the best, most consistent and most inspired thing they've done up to now, and it's far better than Dookie.

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Gotcha.

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Green Day are probably the most overrated band in existence. They've always been a 5 or 6/10 albums band, their lyrics are continually rubbish and their riffs are so vigorously recycled that the council refuses to take them any more. People speak about them in the same breath as Nirvana and The Buzzcocks. ONE-NOT-VERY-GOOD-IDEA-FULL-STOP.

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They 'pioneered' US punk pop. So basically they are responsible for Blink 182, Sum 41, New F***d Glory, Good Charlotte and Simple Plan. Cheers!

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I'm sick to death of that fucking song. XFM seem to play it every ten minuets.
And I aint too keen on New Found Glory either - can't decide what I hate the most about them - their fucking irritating reason to kill music, the lead singer who think's he's funny or the guy on guitar who think's he's cool.
Not going to go on about Good Charlotte for various reasons although I hate their fucking atrocious music and Sum41 are an UGLY band - especially the dwarf that's fucking Avril Lavigne and whatever it is that plays drums and sings.

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My heart stopped when I read that bit...
Waiting and Macy's Day Parade are clearly classics.


But I'm not too sure about this single. The idea of Green Day going political sounds like it could be the worse thing ever.

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That's a bit harsh!


(And I think their lyrics are really good...)

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I'm completely unafraid to say I love Green Day's music and that I think this album is fucking brilliant.

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Actually . . . some of us DO hate Nirvana for creating the abomination that is modern rock music.

Like, say, me.

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Perplexed - good review, but only 3 stars , which implies average??

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I'm sick to the back teeth of Nirvana.

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I have no idea how Green Day got lumped in with all those shite bands. If New Found Glory or Good Charlotte EVER get compared to the Ramones, the Buzzcocks or Nirvana, then I might be inclined to think that they belong in the same league as Green Day. Otherwise, I find it plain absurd. And calling "Warning" an atrocity is just cruel.

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I like Nirvana, it's just the "KOURTNEY KILED KURT!!!!!11111" children and general Kurt worshippers who irritate the fuck out of me.

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yeah, i too hate it when they spell Courtney with a K.

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I'm sick to the back teeth of the pixies.

I do, however, love nirvana.

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You have no idea.

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Unless, of course, you've tricked me with your irony.
You cad.

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Hahaha.
Last time I checked the YYYs, the Libs, and the Strokes aren't punk....

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Hmm...
You could argue that YYYs were, in some ways, some kind of a punk band, in the loosest possible sense.

Then again, you could say they're one-album wonders who're stuffed next year when the NME does a Datsuns on them.

Gutted.

Thank fuck the Seconds are good.

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Harsh.
Nirvana only ripped off the Pixies 25% of the time.
Even then they weren't really ripping them off. They were giving them their dues, granted, but you can't accuse Nirvana of ever being copycats. Every band in the world takes something from other bands that have affected them. Kurt and co like the Pixies, so it's hardly surprising that the influence came through a few times.

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Punk is dead and youre next...

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"Music taste: post punk, yeah yeah yeahs, joy division the smiths"

Go back to reading the NME and dropping buzz words to your mates.
Good.
Bye.

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How'd you work out that I liked Good Charlotte?

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How can you hear me?
Are you, in fact, in this room?
Oh.
My.

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Getting back to the album: I like it. But on some listens it seems average, others it seems great, which is odd. Fave track is Wake Me Up When September Ends, although it's hard to dislike Homecoming when it includes a song like Rock & Roll Girlfriend. Who would have thought the drummer would write an album highlight?

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Well seeing as Tre Cool is the mac-daddio and the best rock drummer around at the moment, its surely not that hard to believe! I love the beginning of Homecoming when his roll kicks it all in, superb!

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Yeah, but linking songs doesn't mean there's any progress content-wise. I've heard this album the whole way through, and okay - they link a few tracks. But the music itself sounds the same as it ever has.

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The core element of the music may be the same, but the is a lot of added piano, glockenspiel, lots of different percussion instruments going on! Punk for under 15's? dont think so somehow..intelligent, thought provoking lyrics, Billie Joe playing solos again etc. This isnt a Good Charlotte style band. The Strokes?.....come on dude, they are manufactured, hype driven bullshit, theres a band whose songs all sound the same!

Considering the had a whole new album recorded which was leaning more to 'Warning' style that got stolen, its a testament to their skills. They forced each other to look at themselves and the stolen work and say "Was that the best we could do?" They couldve easily just re-recorded the stolen tapes, but scrapped it all and came up with 'American Idiot' extremely quickly. Green Day are one of the most punk bands in the world, and by that I mean they have never sold out their ideals and never became "bloated and arrogant rock stars". In this day and age, thats to be applauded.

They are musicians, they know that, we know that, thats the way it is. No bullshit or hype....

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