MUSE: 'Absolution' Sounds Like... + Tracklisting
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Last night, beneath the stars, Drowned in Sound heard the third studio album from the most important band since Nirvana, at an exclusive album playback of '(Sing for) Absolution'. It took place at the Planetarium, Baker St, London. And guess what? It was ruddy marvellous.
Here's a blow by blow, of what I can remember...
1. Intro
2. Apocalypse Please: What an opening! Rumbles in and then throws a few pianos around for good measure. A call for the end of the world or at least for folks to wake up before it's all over. Song stops and there's a massive applause.
3. Time Is Running Out: The new single (promos of which were given out on the door) is pretty representative of what was to follow. Huuuge operatic spacescapes, buzzing electronics, dusty basement drums, odd samples and Matt's vocals sounding more distinctive and resounding than ever before. Did I mention they're rocking the System of a Down sonics a wee bit too?
4. Sing For Absolution: There's something oddly pop going on with this one. Not quite the epiphany of 'Showbiz' on first listen, but time will tell.
5. Stockholm syndrome: The mp3 single. If you've not heard it, get it for £1/£1.50 here.
6. Falling Away With You: A typically Muse ballad and a strange transition from the rock blasts that came before it. It's naked sounding, all peaches and pinks. A Sunday morning fumbling anthem?
7. Interlude
8. Hysteria: A mammoth. Some filthy guitars. Queen and Pink Floyd spring to mind.
9. Blackout: Big evil orchestral number.
10. Butterflies and Hurricanes: This is the song that'll make you cry. About 4 minutes in it breaks down into Matt thumping the piano keys making this exactly what I was waiting for. Lyrically it's got a Chuck Palahniuk (Fight Club) vibe of 'what do you really wanna do with your life?'. This song finishes to a huge response from the 400 or so gathered.
11. Endlessly: Bit of a breather and a bit progier than the rest with lots more electronics than elsewhere, if I remember rightly.
12. Thoughts of a Dying Atheist: (have a feeling that might be a hoax title). Stopped taking mental notes about now.
13. TSP (The Small Print): They've played this one live a few times on recent tours. It's a rock monster.
14. Rule By Secrecy: A chilling, thumping ending with special projections on the ceiling of ghosts and ghouls. The audience is transported via tunnels and loops down into the pits of the grave, where we were flung through the jaws of a skull and out the other end, breathless and silent until the lights came up and it was time to applaud.
And that was that. People cheering. Nearly everyone I spoke to afterwards loved it. A definite step forwards and the sound of the band really and truly coming into their own, pulling together things they love. Perhaps still lingering elements of asking the world to inspire them that bit more and maybe a few confusingly complex (on first lissen) bits and bobs but they have totally set themselves head and shoulders above the pack with an album that’s going to blow people away, especially live.
Bring on September...
DiScuss: Did you go too, what did you think? Why have some idiots put up fake tracks under all these titles on Kazaa? Could it have been the band? Has there been a more important rock band than Muse since Nirvana?
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MUSE: 'Absolution' Sounds Like... + Tracklisting
MUSE: 'Absolution' Sounds Like... + Tracklisting
The false tracks are heavily thought to be the work of Dom - if you listen closely they're people talking in the studio (usually between Matt and Rich). Talk from mods on the Muse board has said that the username much can be downloaded from is the same name as one of Dom's AOL accounts.
Oooh conspiracy.
The tracks are out there if you know where to go ;)
'Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist' is my favourite - I can't understand why people aren't getting it. Obviously, since the lyrics "It scares the hell out of me... and the end is all I can see" - i.e. stuff about dying, not knowing what's next blah blah blah...
Anyway, yeah. Although I'm sick of listening to it now.
a more important band since nirvana?
muse the most important band since nirvana
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If that's NOT a joke, I'm going to vomit up my liver.
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Abba, however, have proved more important than Radiohead, Nirvana or any band like that - spawn a musical and you're okay in my book, except for Rod obviously.
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gen
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I bet no-one in America knows who feeder are.
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Where can we get the real tracks cos I downloaded the false ones an it took me ages on 56k so you can imagine how annoying it was for me. email me @ Alinblack@aol.com cos I really wanna know! Thanks!
Alex
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Anyway, yeah if somebody knows where to get the *real* tracks please can you post them here? Or if you dont want everybody to know, please email me too...
shatterd@hotmail.com
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Re 'Queen?' Damn right my man!
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Muse are interesting, mainly because they have a fairly unique sound. Their early stuff was very radiohead-esque, but for a few years now, Thom and co. have moved in a different direction to Muse, and the end result? Radiohead-fantastic. Muse-passable, and yet both sell records by the shed load.
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SINCE Nirvana? :)
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Other than that, there hasn't been a more important band that Nirvana, apart from maybe Bush and Silverchair, as they've distracted the teeny-grunge girls away from the real deal. Never thought I'd actually condone their existence... ah well.
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unless you mean bands formed AFTER nirvana, in which case.. *shrug*. y'could say linkin park... inasmuch as they're absolutely fuckin global, they've made their mark commercially, had a hand in bringing mainstream focus back onto rock music [for better or worse] and spawned plenty of copycat bands. i guess it depends how you define "important".
personally i hate the fact that nirvana are seen as so "important", because they've always seemed SO average to me. yet there's no denying the impact they've had on people and music, and the sheer number of bands they've spawned through inspiration.
x
gen
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as for radiohead, yes, pretty important, turin brakes and coldplay are evidence of that.
but as for decent albums..muse top radiohead easily.
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Lanky.
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Radiohead have The Bends, O.K computer, and Hail to the thief. Muse have Showbiz and Origins of Symmetry, neither of which can match any of the albums above.
Don't get me wrong. Muse are a good band.
But comparing them to Radiohead is like comparing Rolph Harris to Michaelangelo.
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Mozart and Beethoven were overrated too huh
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face it, radiohead have two decent albums out of 6, that's shit, muse have three out of three.
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may have sounded very plain or regular, the bottom
line was that they wrote GREAT music. Sure, the notes
to their songs were pretty simple, nothing long
and drawn out/ 10 mintue complicated symphonies. But
they were songs carved out from raw fucking emotion
and when you can feel that emotion go straight of inside you while listening to a song, thats a fucking good song! Anyhoo, thats my thoughts on Nirvana and their talents.
As for a more important band? I dont' think this is a very good subject...theres gonna be multiple answers and plenty O' disagreements (thanks Mike_Diver). But i guess thats what this site is all about. So thought provoking question? : definitely.
I think all decent bands have their importance one way or another. They will influence one person or multiple people in their span of music life. Ultimately, if a band succeeds in comforting, inspiring, provoking revelations or enlightment in anyone, i think they've served their share of importance in the realm of art.
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If you take away 'decent' you've made the best point of this thread.
Every band serves a purpose, be it to blow us away, or to make us appreciate what we've got elsewhere more. I mean, what do you think when you hear a rubbish band? For me, if I hear half of Xfm's output, it makes me thankful for the great stuff sat on my shelves... that sound's really shit. Sorry. But you get my point, right? Even the lamest band makes you grateful for something. Apart from The Stereophonics of course, who make me cough up my Weetabix.
Oh, and Radiohead ARE a rock band. I thought that was fairly obvious, 'rock' being this all-encompassing genre that, to be fair, means very little. I mean, it covers Radiohead, Muse, Nirvana, Saxon, Thunder, Terrorvision, Miss Black America, Pixies, Refused, Planes Mistaken For Stars... etc etc etc.
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Therefore (these aren't exclusive, but you can see why Muse don't fit in here):
The eighties and nineties: The Smiths, REM, New Order, Wham! Stone Roses, Madonna, The Jam, GnR, Pixies, Nirvana, Radiohead, Oasis, Buckley, RHCP
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I would also add Refused. But I would. And Sebadoh actually. But these are only of minor importance/influence compared to the bands listed by Mr Future.
What about New KIds on the Block?
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aaww..thanks =)
thats a really good point, that all bands, shitty or not, have importance. I never thought of it that way. I suppose I'm just angry how far some shit bands/artists have gone based on anything but their musical abilities and i was trying to give them little/no credit. But then again, there is truth in what you're saying. Things only seem good
when compared to something worse. Just like there are no ups without the downs. Good point. Im gonna remember that one.
New kids on the block? I sincerely hope you're joking unless you're trying to make some point about how listening to the shitfulness of the New Kids on the Block, has made us more appreciative of quality music.
and in that case, where the fuck did this thread just go??
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Nirvana encapsulates everything that I love about art and life and music.
It's way, way past a distorted guitar and a gravelly voice. It's:
The paradox, the raw flourish of life, humanity, intelligence, the absurdity of the fact that the band were taking a form of guitar music to a perverse finale and acknowledging it at the same time and turning things into a brilliant/tragic satire, the feminine sensitivity in the teeth of such ragged, powerful, sensual, sexual music and freedom. Oh god FREEDOM. The my prominent force behind Nirvana, for many people, is that raw, weightless liberation. Belonging. The Nirvana Drug, which seems to fade in it's potency. Kurt. Love. Alive. Breathing. Heart.
They were 'important' to many, many people. It was way deeper than their legacy in whatever musical form they spawned, though. There are more Nirvana hoodies than there are Faith No More t-shirts.
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Shame innit?
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Buckley - One good song and that was a cover and I hardly think people would rip it off or such like.
Oasis - A big band and arguably important but not using your criteria. Anyone who could be said to rip off Oasis could be said to rip off a whole host of other bands who came before.
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I think i have "ruled by secrecy" though (anyone heard of that?) it has this piano that does random trills the whole way through with a left hand doing a dark ballad in the background. Then it has a synthesizer creating this eerie melody that really puts the whole piece togther. Its about mid tempo. Good track.
ANYhoo, if anyone could direct me to the real tracks...it'd be much appreciated....
btw, when is the album coming out??
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however 'hysteria' owns me completely.
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gen
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Anyway, I agree that muse are one of the most important bands since NIRVANA, i mean, come on, they're bloody awesome.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me get the real songs - or just a few even, so i can get my muse fix.
Thanks
Josie
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The album is released on Sep 22nd and will be available in all good record stores.
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*if you got that, then it aint a fake ;-)
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Naturally, for a lot of people who were coming of age at the time, nothing current will ever be as new and exciting as Nirvana were. For people who didn't live through it (or mostly ignored it), it's difficult to see what all the fuss is about.
Good, yes. But not God.
Lanky.
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important bands
Yes and they are known as silverchair. For those who doubt, have a listen to Diorama.
Muse are a very important band, but i'd consider them more prog than rock.
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so there's this "realness" which you must have to make music, and also certain "weirdness" and a stubborn mind to make something different. And all those who managed to do this, are important
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i think at the moment it would be hard to argue that muse were anywhere near as important or influential as nirvana (or even radiohead for that matter), but these kind of judgements can only really be made once their work has had the chance to absorb into people and take an effect on the way they view music. in a year or two's time we may see a sort of neo-prog explosion thanks to the likes of Muse, The Mars Volta, perhaps even Oceansize amongst others, and then i think would be the time to say "yes, muse were/are an important band"
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i agree with what yr saying anyway. however i think people are always gonna continue the debate about who's more important, who's more influential etc - it's unavoidable; as long as people love music, they'll defend the bands they love to the hilt. it may not achieve much, but it'll happen anyway.
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gen
Nonononono
On the other hand, Neon Ballroom is excellent as is Origin of Symmetry. Work the fuck of that one out and post it in a self addressed envelope to your fucking mother stamped with the word "WORD".
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At present, Muse are important to a fairly large, but still minoritised (if that's a word...) group of fans. They are important to me, they are important to several people who posted on this thread. They have not, however, quite broken into the full consciousness of the general public in the UK thus far, and are much, much further away from doing this in the US (which, like it or not, is generally the country which matters most when it comes to gaining recognised importance).
If Muse can release an album that will finally rid them of the (in my opinion unjustified) Radiohead rip-off accusations once and for all, and provide a piece of music that will be seen as a benchmark for bands in the future, we will see then how important a band Muse can be. Give them a few years, possibly a few albums, then begin this thread topic again. It will be interesting to see the response.
Cheers
-ANDREW-
Oh, and by the way, Erics_trip? Buckley? One Good song that was a cover? No...fucking...way!!!
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muse is a great band, i think they cuold go far, but theres no fucking way they are even in the same ballpark as nirvana was...'its not even the same fucking league!!'
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I won't compare them to Nirvana, it isn't possible.
I like Nirvana, but Nirvana always were and always will be, a massively overrated band.
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the first two albums rocked! and then when absolution came out last year it was hailed as the best british rock album of the year.
i was so disapointed. there were too many slow songs, muse at there best play big loud fast rock songs not slow shitty ones
as for nirvana - quality band. how can you even start to compare muse with them? nirvana were genre enspiring, muse are muse, they are there and not about to change history
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More Jeff Buckley meets Suede. With Audioslave (I Am the Highway opening and Hysteria chorus are identical), System of a down(stockholme riff is X on toxicity), and other bits chucked in.
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And I quote from my own post:
<i>I won't compare them to Nirvana, it isn't possible</i>
I don't think muse are overrated, I enjoy the slower songs, the thing with muse is that all the songs sound quite different.
I just think it's a shame people give them such a hard time. They're not my favourite band by any stretch of the imagination, Origin of Symmetry had some cool songs on it, and I think they've really come on to some new musical territory with Absolution, I truly do.
As for Nirvana, like I said, I won't compare the two, they don't even really belong to the same genre, but Nirvana are only lauded as a legend because Cobain killed himself.
This always happens when a band member tops themselves:
Nirvana
The Sex Pistols
Joy Division
All of the above - I enjoy listening to
All of the above - are overrated
None of the above - would enjoy their legend status with out:
Kurt Cobain
Sid Vicious
Ian Curtis....killing themselves.
But now I'm getting off topic.
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It's only two extra letters to type.
Also:
ninties
gonna
alpowerful
I'm not denying that Nirvana were a very good band. But at some point, you're going to have to move on and find something else. And the idea of children writing essays on Mozart in comparison to Nirvana is rather silly too, it's like comparing Shakespeare and JK Rowling.
The thing with Nirvana is that they still have this fanbase (not all of the fanbase, but some of it), of teenagers who are convinced that they will never hear anything better that what they're listening to themselves.
There is a lot of music out there Andy, do us all a favour and go and explore it.
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and muse are fucking ace. you don't like slow songs?
(bursts out laughing)
why fucking listen to music? just snort coke if you want a thrill...
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Hold on.....you're talking to 'Andy' aren't you?
Sorry.
Agree with you on Nirvana, they did do some amazing stuff, and although I only recently got into Muse, I think they're on to something with the latest album.
I'd love to see them live.
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Hold on.....you're talking to 'Andy' aren't you?
Sorry.
Agree with you on Nirvana, they did do some amazing stuff, and although I only recently got into Muse, I think they're on to something with the latest album.
I'd love to see them live.
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fuck u woman... this is a music site not a fucking grammar teaching correspondant cours.
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But there's no excuse for it anywhere, if you can't be bothered to express yourself more eloquently on a site, you shouldn't bother.
People like you give music fans a bad name.
But let's not continue with that, you carry on as you are doing, but if you're going to try and make a serious statement, it just isn't as convincing to read if it's full of netspeak. Trust me.


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