Pumpkins WILL reform: Auf Der Maur makes things official

I like SP, but Billy Corgan is a cunt.

And Adore was shit.

Right good news.

really. Corgan = genius

srsly.

neither sad nor happy to be honest. but very interested. hopefully the new songs won't continue in the same vein as machina. it'd be nice to hear something different.

Now all we need is for someone to book them for ATP

Corgan & Chamberlin recorded Siamese Dream pretty much by themselves, as D'arcy and Iha had been "involved" and had fallen out spectacularly.

Adore is horrible.

And Billy Corgan is an arrogant, up his own arse cunt.

Adore is good. Very good actually. It's overwhelming goodness, and status as their best album, is quite possibly as close to FACT as you can get without coming out of the other side of FACT and ending up a tad TOO REAL. Yes.

but "bad" or "uninteresting" i could understand, but to me the qualifier "horrible" suggests that there's something unpleasant going on.

obviously, a bunch of monkeys playing said instruments could make horrible sounds, but i made the assumption that it was indicated that this was a professional band who knew what they were doing.

James Iha back - I always enjoyed his playing very much.

But let's face it - how good will this really be? The last few shows they did were pretty poor.

Unfortunately, we can't bring back 1993.

Adore was EXCELLENT, Machina wasn't up to much though.

And yes, this news is the bees kness!

Smashing Pumpkins are wicked. Even they bad stuff was still brilliant.

And so what if Corgan's a control freak, mentalist? Not me. He's a bit of a hero of mine really. If they play any UK gigs I'm gonna be so excited, I might not hid. I'm about to lose control and I think I like it.

I well fancy a Crunchie.

the pumpkins played manchester i didn't go cuz the touts were selling tickets for 80 quid, festival prices at the time, now i ahve the chnace to see them. i'm over the moon. bitch as you want about which album is best... this will be a greatest hits money making pixiesesque tour come revival.

YEY!

...they do what The Pixies did and go on tour for a year playing their hits. The two Wembley Arena shows in Dec 2000 were a complete joke. I never got to see a Pumpkins show where they played more than about 4 of their "hits". So they should do a big greatest hits tour where they just play the songs with no shit involved. Get people remembering how great they were THEN do a new album. Otherwise people will just remember how dull Zwan were and not really care.

That said - as long as the ticket prices aren't ridiculous I'm at any show Jimmy Chamberlin is playing - the guy is a delight to watch and listen to.

I reckon Corgan should just try and re-write Siamese Dream. It might go horribly wrong and be shit or nowhere near as good but if he does something totally new what's even the point of calling it "Smashing Pumpkins"?

Shut up! get your Nirvana t shirt off, pick your head up that you've just blown off and whack Adore or Machina into your CD player; they came a long away after Siamese Dream, and they got a blooming lot better.

Zwan were possibly the dullest thing of the last 5 years though.

You scoundrel. It's up there with my favourite SP albums. Seriously, it's great! Give it another chance (or 10)

I don't see what everybody's big deal with Adore and Machina is. It's not the same Black Sabbath influenced music as was the first three albums, but that doesn't mean they went down the drain. Do bands have to stick to the same style of music? I love the fact that half of Adore is piano. And I can't stop listening to Machina. I think Billy's best lyrics are evident in songs like Try, Try, Try, Stand inside your love, Age of Innocence, etc. Comparing Adore and Siamese dream is like comparing apples and oranges. I just wish they had released Machina II on an official album. I think it would of been there best. I can't wait to see what Billy and Chamberlin have in store.