Kanye West: "Bush doesn't care about black people"

The actual footage of this is INCREDIBLE.

I have never seen anyone look more uncomfortable than Mike Myers does once Kanye drops the bomb. His face is an absolute picture.

Kanye looks ready to burst into tears at any moment, it's really moving.

I don't think what he said could possibly overshadow what's happened though, if anything it sums up what a hell of a lot of people think.

it was on a televised red cross appeal.

the reports don't really relay the way he said it, he's clearly very very emotional, it's not something that he'd preplanned.

i think he hit on a touchy subject tho, whether true or not.
and to be fair, you dont see eminem crying on stage shouting "they never help out any white families on Extreme makeover home edition"

I found it on google, typed in Kanye + Myers and it was about the third down.

You are right, it was amazing.

<a href="http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79"<This link is the video clip of it. I think he should be applauded for speaking his mind rather than what was flashed at him from a teleprompter. And you're right, Mike Myers face is brilliant as is Chris Tucker's when they cut away.

yeah, Chris Tucker's face is pure "he said it, not me... but i'm glad someone said it"

Does anyone have an up-to-date link to the NY Times article? Would be interested in reading it. If not, anyone any idea as to what the article was saying?

If this sort of incident happened in a richer and/or predominantly white area, I don't think it would have taken this long for a response from the Federal Government. NO was still waiting for an adequate response days after the destruction. Days. How long did it take for Bush to react to 9/11? WTC.......filled with rich, mostly white, mostly male bankers and executives.

I think Kanye has a good point and spoke out against something that many of us are thinking, but the timing was crap. Seriously.

not meaning to be pinnickity, but calling kanye west a "raper" is surely asking for legal trouble?

At least someones talking about this now but I doubt it will resonate much with middle America. The whole race issue of modern times has never been clearer in America than right now. Practically all the people featured on TV are black and had been forced into low land housing and many were so poor they could not even afford to get a bus out of the city in time. And as for driving out, forget about it, most of the people didn't even have a car. The fact is that America is deeply divided and this has illustrated how the poor are suffering. And from this we can see how most of the poor are black families.

that is the most ridiculous arguement i've ever heard. Racism in America is on a terrifying scale. How can you possibly compare the plight of black and white people like that?

I know you're trying to be fair and PC or something but its comes across as an indifferent attitude to racism that means things will never change.

Well done Kanye for saying what most people think and what almost everyone of influence is too afraid to say.

The fact that NO is/was 67% black does mean something though.

oh and i don't mean you personally are indifferent to racism, just that that kinda of reasoning implies indifference.

Peacex

i think its crazy that people black or white are being shot at for taking food. what are they supposed to do, they see a supermarket - leave the change on the counter.

This link works and will play in Media Player. It's about 2mins long.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/09/nbc_video.html

it sounds horrible, but i actually laughed after watching that video. but its because im so happy that somebody actually had the stones to get up in front of national TV and say what everyone was thinking. makes a change from all the PC, pro-government shite that theyre told they have to speak.

Damn straight, well done Mr West. *applaudes*

here's to this tragedy ending Bush, and highlighting a few ugly truths about the worlds most hegemonic nation

I believe the censors were instructed to listen for curse words throughout the whole show.

That makes me want to buy Kanye West records......it'd be nice if something changed for the better out of this tragedy, but I doubt it will. Notice how the news reports are already talking about fucking oil prices going up...

The most appalling shit can happen, but one thing will always remain constant- the amount of money yankee oil takes home each day....

Sure, Bush may lose popularity over this, but let's face it, america hasn't got the best history of efficient action in the face of adversity. They like to blow things up and create a fuss. So Bush'll be out bu, it's not like there are only twenty more evil, murdering, racist oil barons sons to replace him.....there are probably twenty thousand...we're doomed.

he wouldnt have an album comng out by any chance would he????

the point is it doesnt matter what bush does now, because he's already been given a second term of office, and legally can't have a third. americans fucked up by putting him back in and they've got another 3 years whether they like it or not.

*had

He doesnt care about black people he cares about the OIL dammit!

"Re: Kanye West: "Bush doesn't care about black people"
Posted by since-last-summer on 5th Sep, 22:42 | Reply to this post
Carzy: great eloquence.
grockle: please do buy his records, they're quite splendid."

When the truth is self-evident there is no need for eloquence...

Kanye West may have been prompted by the controversy discussed in the NYTimes article linked to above, where two pictures of survivors wading through the streets with bags of food were descrived rather differently:

(taken from the NYTimes article:)
"The first photo, taken by Dave Martin, an Associated Press photographer in New Orleans, shows a young black man wading through water that has risen to his chest. He is clutching a case of soda and pulling a floating bag. The caption provided by The A.P. says he has just been "looting a grocery store...
...The second photo, also from New Orleans, was taken by Chris Graythen for Getty Images and distributed by Agence France-Presse. It shows a white couple up to their chests in the same murky water. The woman is holding some bags of food. This caption says they are shown "after finding bread and soda from a local grocery store."

It is definitely stuff to make your blood boil. The whole area is f**ked off back into the third world and people are (even if only subliminally) filtering the desperate survivors with shitty stereotyping. Racism + severe shoot to kill policy.... entirely right and proper to make KW's point. It will be much more likely to damage him within an entertainment and radio industry dominated by Bush's mates than help him.

good for kanye west, they should've let him finish. i didn't get to see it...is there some way i can?

Unless someone really doesn't like it. Been forty-odd years since they assassinated a President. Someone's gotta restart that 20-year pattern sometime.

They built a city below sea level, right next to the sea, in an area of the country that is frequently hit by hurricanes.

This really should have been prevented, and George Bush does seem to be the one at fault.

yes but it seems silly to hold a fundraiser for a disaster and then have no one discuss the main reasons for that disaster. it's not an " opinion/world view", it's facts on the ground.

The fact of the matter is that Kanye West said things that needed to be said and things that too many people were too scared to say, if it had to be on a fundraising programme that everyone would watch then so be it.

So, why exactly is Bush racist? What has he done to show that he is racist? I know he has appointed more blacks to top cabinet spots then any other president - but I'm sure that's part of his "cover".
So I guess this is what happened - the hurricane hits, and then Bush sends out the order to all parts of the federal government saying - "take your time, it's just black people". Is that how it went?
Does anyone have any idea how big the US government is? Do you think that that one man is controlling everything that is happening at all times?
Plus the comparisons to 9/11 make no sense. Firstly, the federal government did nothing to deal with 9/11 (related to the search and rescue and cleanup) - it was all local. So much for the quick response because they were "successful white bankers". Secondly, do you realize the size of the affected area (from the hurricane) - it was about the size of England. Those hundreds of thousands of people aren't going to be rescued immediately. This was the WORST disaster is US history. The real failure was the pre-planning and pre-activity - and the state has it's own reserve troops .
Of course it's easy to get swept up in the Bush is evil/stupid/racist/lier/etc orgy (without having to actually think about it).

did you just join this forum to disagree with peoples opinion of your shitehog president, or are you interested in indie music as well?

No, I originally came to the site to read some Reindeer Section acticle. I like indie music. Am I allowed to have a different political opinion - or is that forbidden in the mob mentality?

I think it had to be said right or wrong. I was watching the reports on TV in the uk. It seemed pretty obvious that people would loot to survive. I'm sure most where looting to survive, however, there will always be those elements in society that exploit a situation like that for their own sordid reasons.

I think that whoever advised the president has made a mistake that has cost lifes and possibly his reputation. I'm more worried about those in the positions of Donald Rumsfeld, those who command the presidents attention.

Kanye West was saying something that needed to be said, he gave those without a voice the chance to be heard. Very brave, and one things for sure he wont be relying on "Spin Doctors" (Professional Liers) to justify anything he said.

I would just like to say that regardless of the money that was supposed to go to "reinforcing the levies"...it doesn't matter how reinforced the levies were. Do you realize the water level has risen above those levies? What good would standing levies do against that? It would only keep water in the city. Yes, it's completely ignorant what the Bush administration did, but to complain about that does nothing. And the response--well the governer told Bush to let them (governer's people) have 24 hours. Beyond that, when Bush declared the national emergency in New Orleans two full days before Katrina hit, the power to do something basically leaves his hands and it is up to FEMA to proceed. Lastly, Kanye has balls and I respect him for speaking his mind no matter my political views (by the way, I DO NOT like President Bush). My only complaint is they cut it from the west coast broadcast (I live in California) so I had to find out the next day in the local paper and them come online to search for the video.

Raoul posted above that, "In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war." Okay, then why was FEMA's response to painfully slow as well? I said it before, Bush declared the emergency two days before Katrina hit. According to your quote, FEMA had nearly four years to prepare for such a disaster and dropped the ball when it was in their court. But all in all...f*ck Bush and that's how I feel about that.

I gonna tell you exactly why he is Racist. The first point in your defense is that Bush appointed more black people to top cabinet members than any other president. The actual truth is that he tied Clinton in those top cabinet appointments. Also you have to look at his intentions behind those appointments. Bush recruited a black person who is by all standards was considered to be a hero and who minorities respect to stand behind him to draw the minority vote during the first election. That person in case you don't know is Colin Powell and after that did not work he simply cheated his way in office. After Colin served during his first term realizing he was a prominent token being used to confuse minorities he woke up and decided he did not want to be a part of the Bush side show. But being the "planner" Bush is he replaced him with Condoleeza Rice as not to disturb the balance. Bush, in essence, did say take your time because he was still on vacation only cutting it short by two days. He did not make NO a priority despite reports he received about the shortcomings on the levee system because the fact is that he cut funding toward improvements to the levee system to fund the war. Also do you know that the average Louisiana resident living in NO was at or below the poverty level and that most of these people happen to black. Do you know that your fearless leader was well aware of this situation and the potential for a horrible result if a Hurricane hit NO yet he still did nothing. But you say he not a racist. Hardly the actions of a person who cares about the welfare of the people he is suppose to protect. Also you mentioned that the state has its own reserve of troops. You are right about that but most of them are in Iraq and have nothing to come home to because the city they resided in is gone. Everyone knows how big government is but do you know that FEMA has the authority to go immediately into places where a natural diasaster has occurred without urging from the state or local government. Mike Brown did not know that and he is the director of FEMA and also a college pal of Bush. (not surprising) As far as your argument that the Feds did not show for 9/11 that was totally not true. The first people on the scene was local but the Feds was on the scene six hours later so don't get the facts twisted. No one showed up in NO for 4 days. However every news camera in the world was there. I do realize the size of the area affected because I am a Louisianaian and a Hurricane Andrew survivor and we received aid much quicker than the people in NO did and that hurricane was awful as well. You are right it will go down as the worst disaster in US history but it did not have to be. The point of whether or not you are a Bush supporter is of no relavance but please do not distort the truth to put a clearly incompetence leader in an otherwise positive light.

kanye is right, but then you listen to his records and you go erm wait a minute this guy actually deserves to die for crimes against rap music and indeed against music in general... diamonds are forever yeah genius there mate just sample the whole song why don't you, i hope shirley bassey bitch slaps his ass back to the usa, zane fucking lowe i blame that guy for mr west's success see he shares a surname with fred west and taribo west maybe thats it all evil fuckers have the surname west or not...