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Another Welsh band. Another set of slackers from South Wales dressed in black and trucker caps. Another emo-core, (post) hard-core, expressional-core ‘expra-core’ band of the moment with ten thousand swooning teenage fans (more girls than boys would you believe) ready to sing and buy and dress in black and trucker caps, and why? Why do Welsh bands create this furore? What made Funeral for a Friend so fucking massive before they’d even released their first album? Why should almost the entire tour be sold-out? Why, at Reading festival this year, did the first band on the smallest stage on the middle Saturday draw every motherfucking mosher camping out that weekend to their thirty minute set?…

…because FfaF are the answer to corpro American metal. Funeral for a Friend (as part of the enraged South Wales scene) are very, very good, and there is just no denying it.

“It’s weird. The very first day of the tour we all turned to each other and were like, ‘how the fuck did we get here’?!”

Even before Funeral for a Friend’s debut album, ‘Casually Dressed and Deep in Conversation’ hit HMV’s metal sections across the country, ‘the fans’ were heckling choruses louder than the band themselves on stage – such has been the intensity of interest and thus, intensity of downloads in FfaF. Despite this, FfaF’s team have incredibly high (and highly credible) hopes for the chart and financial success of the new record, which took six months to record. But what would a top ten position in the UK album chart mean for FfaF.

“Top ten? We don’t even think about chart position, especially with the album. If we did then things would start changing. We wrote that album for ourselves. First and foremost we have to be happy with everything. If people like it, that’s awesome and if they don’t, that’s just as fucking cool. Chart position didn’t even come into question when we were stuck in that fucking garage, slogging our arses off for nine hours a day, trying to write it all."

Before the current album, two EPs were released, 'Between Order & Model' and 'Four Ways to Scream Your Name'. A lot of familiar material from those CD’s appears on 'Casually Dressed and Deep in Conversation' and their anthem, 'Juneau' is in the tracklisting of its fourth record. Although this first appears like a cheeky way to avoid any more song writing, the band has understandable reasons for taking this approach.

“Basically we’ve taken our two favourite songs from both EPs. For the first one the distribution was quite poor and subsequently it was difficult to find. We wanted to give it a wider audience. The second EP was limited edition so we figured we’d do those songs a little more justice as we liked them so much and bring them out again. ‘Four Ways to Scream Your Name’ will never see the light of day again – it won’t be repressed so if you have it, sell that one! Ebay the motherfucker! I did! I even sold my 7"! Ha Ha!”

The band also admit that they “struggle to write b-sides”. They feel that specifically writing a b-side would be cheating themselves. “We like to think that every song is as good as the next, so for someone to turn round and say, ‘we need you to write a song that’s not as good as your others’, well, we’re like what’s the fucking point?!"

So lets talk Reading. It’s what I’ve wanted to do since I watched FfaF from the centre of the Concrete Jungle Stage this summer, amazed and bemused at how ANY band could get the whole of Reading festival up before lunchtime the morning after one of the biggest drinking sessions of the year!

“Reading was my favourite show ever! It was weird because two weeks before. we got a phone call from the organisers and they were like, ‘We want you to do the Main Stage’ and we said NO! So they said ‘OK, how about the Evening Session Stage’ and we said NO we’re not doing that. We wanted to open the fucking Concrete Jungle Stage. We wanted to play alongside Thrice, Poison the Well and Boy Sets Fire especially. It was a fucking awesome day. The sun was shining, the ladies were looking BAM! Everyone was fucking awesome, every single band on. It was all good!"

You get the feeling tonight, standing outside the Manchester University Union where FfaF will later play, that Reading is repeating itself all over again and will probably do so on many other nights this tour. FfaF could have probably have filled an even bigger venue than this – and over 800 people can fit in there! Funeral for a Friend have Sold Out but does this apply to their ethics, as well as their shows?!

“Sometimes it makes me laugh. Before we even released the second EP people were already accusing us of selling out, and we were still playing the same fucking six-song set that we’d been playing since we started! I remember all the faces that would stand along the front row when we were playing TJ’s back home who would sing and cheer and fucking preach every word back to us; the same guys who now stand at the back - still buying tickets – but shouting that we’re sell-outs, that we’re faggots."

But can you see how some people would say you play pop songs for the hardcore kids, which would seem like selling-out? “You put us into the hardcore category and now you point the finger and say ‘you sold out’! Fucking hell I grew up listening to Radiohead! I don’t know the first fucking things about hardcore music, I really don’t. I can understand the hardcore ethic, but for me it means nothing because I was never a hardcore person. I like hardcore music, but the ethic means fuck all to me.” Fair enough.

Despite FfaF’s insane rise to mass popularity, they still keep a check on reality, and have plans to release a clothing line – they know the music may not keep them going forever. The clothing label Atticus also wants to release a Juneau Jeans line at some point in the future. Merchandise-wise FfaF certainly do have a mass of shirts and skinny fit Ts and badges, and someone, somewhere is banking on their success in a big way. “We’ve been working our merch guys arse off! You know you’ve made it when you have enamel badges”, say FfaF. You also know you’ve fucking made it when you hear your single being played in the Queen Vic on Eastenders man. Then you know its fucking over man!”

“We were offered personalised pics recently and we said yeah! They’re cheesy and metal and we’re gonna have our names engraved in them as well! That way we don’t have to sign shit, we can just give them straight out! Ha ha”

Drowned in sound prophesised Funeral’s stardom a good two years ago. Kerrang! decided Funeral were a ‘great band’ this summer. “It was so weird seeing them say that”, say FfaF. “We can play, but we’re no fucking great band. There are bands out there which are better. I refuse to believe we’re a great band but our management team are talking about us playing Brixton Academy in London next February. Brixton Academy! What the Fuck!”

Funeral’s appreciative view of fame is nice to see. They really can’t believe what all the hype is about and perhaps that’s why they haven’t fallen off tangent – sticking to what they started out as, tho’ some don’t believe it. Soon they are to set off to support Iron Maiden. Its amazing how FfaF can still stay dismissive of their rockthority, even when such classic bands choose them as tour mates! Incredible. What an incredible band. Still as credible as they have always been.

FFaF are to ATD-I...

...as Coldplay are to Radiohead.
(Musical Analogies That Don't Quite Work: #223 in a series.)

Still, they're really not *that* good. And their album sounds horribly generic-emo to me. I think the article gets to the heart of the problem: they don't sound like they think they're a great band, which pretty much precludes them from actually being one.

Best band ever named after an Elton John song though. Probably...

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It could have been Elton.... but as the website sez it is infact some song of some (insert)-core band from somewhere else than the UK....

I dont think bands can be great nowadays. They get plucked like unripe apples from the tree, get merchandised, get flogged to death, get the creative ethic fucked out of them....

...and then they become the Storkes.

xxx

the name.........

.....was from 'planes mistaken for stars' i gather, and is about the only respectable four words i can relate to them...... :)

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Planes Mistooken for Rabies

Mmm

All this 'post hardcore' is basically the new acceptable metal.. it's for the stoner kids who hate the other craze of the White Stripes/Libertines, and their indie kids look down on the emo kids and it's this huge bloody parade of shite music! Finch, Poison The Well, Sikth, Lostprophets, Million Dead.... it's all so shouty teenagers with badges on their bags and shirts under their sweaters.

Now Cat Power....

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You're right. You get all the pikey kids who hang onto nu-metal and hav now moved to emo/screamo/post-hardcore whatevr. Then you get the indie/rock kids like me. Although theres too much hype about too many bands.

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Yeah, sure, this band is a real shit. I happened to see em during the Maiden tour. They all look as if they were cloned from the vocalist (which is partially true, since the bassist is his bro:)), and although their sologuitar player is pretty good, he's the only worthy guy there. The music is the typical shit you get nowadays, but if some riffs were taken separately, one could get a good song-nothing more. So IMHO these guys aren't worth to be praised as such.

Re: Mmm

it doesnt have to be this way...
let me ask you a question. Do you like Biffy Clyro? they talk about mineral(about as emo as you can get) and they are clearly influenced by them, and they are an awesome emo band. funeral for a friend are a nu metal band. its not really anything to do with emo. i think when NME tried to 'launch' emo a lot of people knew the name of the genre, but not what it was really about, so i think they sort of made up what it was meant to sound like or something, because in my opinion it doesnt really sound like funeral for a friend much at all, or any of the new school emo bands. you have highlighted the problem exactly, it is just nu metal with a pansy guy singing, and talking about lame shit instead of a tough guy talking about mutha fuckers... if you like indie/rock, there are so many bands that could be considered emo, but also emo rock. so dont be fooled by the gay shit...

Re: Mmm

Well said

Now Cat power... is buff as

And shes on friendster! awwwwwwwwwww!!!

Funeral for a Friend - How did we get here?

My god!! Why come on here to slate a band, Funeral rawk!! Whatever genre they come under, they just do it so well. Go see them live if you have any doubts about them. They can also wear what they want. Their sound is influenced by bands that call themselves Hardcore/ Emo or whatever and with the music comes the fashion. If they all dig that style let 'em wear it. Funeral for a Friend are ROCK, because they ROCK. Need more proof listen to 'Escape Artists Never Die'!

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what really gets me about all the people that have posted a message slagging off FFAF that they actually you had enough interest in FFAF to read their interview and then post a message, that a hell of a lot of effort if they're really that shit. Can't you guys just let it go, people just like different things.
and all this shit about indie kids and emo kids blah blah blah..what the fuck! people are pretty weak if they listen to certain music to follow a scene or to be 'cool', and by you lot going on about and classing people as different things just shows how to you the image of a scene is more important than the music...

rant over... sorry about that

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Thing is, I love The Funeral Show and the more people know about them the better
even if they hate it
cos EVERYONE needs The Funeral Show on at their own personal panto this Christmas
and for the rest of the year for that matter

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F4AF rock i'm so gutted i missed them playing in wrexham i still have the ticket but i was ill with the flu and couldnt go but eheheh yes i got tickets for the NME tour c u F4AF fans there.
love jenn

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i agree i hat all that emo shitand i aint botherd on punk but ffaf's music realy has an impact on me there a brilliant band 2 listen 2 and there music does get u excited. just listen 2 there music and u will see they are amazing. i look forward 2 seeing them live in future!!!!!!!!!DAVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funeral for a Friend - How did we get here?

just forget about all this emo kid indie kid shit and all these genres that ur putting these bands into and just listen to there music.. for a 1st album its absoloutly faultless there isnt a bad song that they ahve made on both eps and the album.. i have had the pleasure of meeting ffaf in manchester.....they RAWK! and ive just bought nem tour tickets to go see em again its worth the fuckin money!

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spot on, i can't be bothered with all this genre labelling, it's too confusing - i ask my friend every couple of months what is 'emo' and it's different every time. if it's good it's good. yes, there are a load of bands around at the moment that sound similar to funeral for a friend but i think they've got a little something extra, they are just a good band. i've only seen them once and am really looking forward to seeing them in manc on the (e)NME(y) tour if i can ever get to the union to pick up my reserved tickets - what a quality gig that will be

lou -x-

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All this genre shit, F4af have never said anything about being Emo, Nu metal, whatever, they just call it "Rock". You're putting them in categorys, and then having a go at them for being in them? That's crap, forget genres, you're obsessed about putting people into groups!

"I like hardcore music, but the ethic means fuck all to me.” Think that says it best, fuck the ethic, listen to the music and do what you want, isn't the whole fucking point of the ENTIRE emo, rock, nu metal, punk shit about not conforming? I hate Rockier than thou kids, get over yourself, we can't ALL be as fucking brilliant as you obviously think you are.

Funeral for a Friend - How did we get here?

I hate it when people slag off bands, because its just their opinion. I think F4aF are fantasic, and its not nice to read that most other people hate them! if you dont like them, thats fine, but just shut your mouths, because us fans dont wasnt to listen to that shit! I dont think they should be classified as anything other than rock, as they are indescribeable, and anyway WHO CARES what groups (like: indie, emo, etc.) people are put into? It dosnt make you a different person.
(p.s: Matt Davies is beautiful!)

Funeral for a Friend - How did we get here?

I hate it when people slag off bands, because its just their opinion. I think F4aF are fantasic, and its not nice to read that most other people hate them! if you dont like them, thats fine, but just shut your mouths, because us fans dont wasnt to listen to that shit! I dont think they should be classified as anything other than rock, as they are indescribeable, and anyway WHO CARES what groups (like: indie, emo, etc.) people are put into? It dosnt make you a different person.
(p.s: Matt Davies is beautiful!)

Funeral for a Friend - How did we get here?

There are fuckin assholes speaking here...a maiden fan has no opinions to give on a band like funeral for a friend.. try to develop ur music environment, open ur eyes and ur fuckin ears...rock is changing, maiden time is over...there are so cliche that they ve even become trendy for many assholes that were listening Wham...

Funeral For A Friend - How did we get here?

I agree with whoever was talking about people slagging off ffaf, they must of had some interest in them or they wouldn't of read the article. What's the point in reading the article, and then slagging them off. Like they said they just play music they like, and they aren't bothered if some people don't like it so why bother slag them off.

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Just for the record, Matt Davies and Gareth Davies are not brothers so stop trying to be a clever twat cus you obviously don't know anything about them. Funeral are awesome!!!!! I got free tickets to see them on the Iron Maiden tour and was disgusted by the Maiden fan's reactions to Funeral, shouting insults at them constantly and just basically being arrogant. I agree that they probably weren't the best band to open for Maiden, but still they deserved a bit of respect, Maiden fans get your heads out of your arses and get with the fucking times!!!!!!

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from what I saw they started off getting heckled as a boyband but went on to garner the respect of many of the righteous metallers
funeral heralded much applause by the end of the set thus confirming their ability to win over a crowd with the quality of their music and infernal microphone acrobatics

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