The Koreans: Drowned in Sound The Label, Debut Release!

If Drowned in Sound becomes the new Sub Pop, let's hope the Sunny Day Real Estates outnumber the Nirvanas. :-D

Why don't you just fuck off, 'my dear'? Nobody is forcing you to read this website.

well put. i've stayed well out of this whole graham-vs-dis thing thus far, but frankly it's like a stucklike a stucklike a stuck record. graham, you're fully entitled to your opinions on drownedinsound, but you've made them clear time and time again. we know what you think. come up with some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism [rather than cynical directionless sniping] or give it a rest already. if you're glad this has nothing to do with you anymore, devote your energy to something that DOES have something to do with you.

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P>S> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=17505&cf=71882

i don't really understand what graham's point is. That Sean has massive ambitions? We know that already, surely. DiS wouldn't be here at all if he didn't. Whether or not the record release will be a success and whether or not DiS has its faults is hardly the point - it's about getting off your arse and making a difference. And if someone doing that wants to change the world, then that can only be a good thing - your staunch belief in wilfull underachievment is tedious, "my dear."

and to say the sean runs DiS badly is another poor criticism - it's not as if Sean is paid money to run DiS and, given that it's almost entirely a labour of love (save for a guestlist place here and there), he does a good job of running one of the better webzines around. Ok, so it's not without its faults, but it's not run by complacent people so it's only going to get better.

does Sean want to centre DiS around his own personality and become some kind of indie celeb as graham seems to think? Probably not. Much as he probably likes the idea, it's no more than anyone else would. I daresay Graham liked the fact that people attacked him on DiS message boards cos it made him feel like he had some kind of notoriety - whereas people just thought he was a misinformed tosser.

Finally, you say you're glad this has nothing to do with you when clearly everyone at DiS is glad for precisely the same reason. No-one misses you, but the fact that you still post on these message boards indicates an ever present yearning.

I also think i should mention that the only two overwhelmingly positive reviews that Graham wrote in his time at DiS were given to Iron Maiden and the Younger Younger 28s. I think you can all draw your own conclusion from that.

james k (ex-DiS writer)

Yes, I wonder why I'm glad I don't write for here
anymore after that tirade of abuse! Funny that. :-P

G

What do you expect after all the grudge-bearing abuse you left?

Again: why are you still reading this site if you hate it so much? You keep ignoring this question.

I would have said it was justified. Was in response to a public attack of a worthwhile company (if I can call DiS that) releasing a single to help a) up the ante b) make ends meet c) annoy people who thought this site was another fly-by-night dot.gone.

long live drowned in sound.

p.s. and for the record, i think shauns attitude is grate! we need more people who'll stand up for what they believe in.

a huge exodus of 3... 4..?

currently the contributor numbers run into the hundreds with some people writing one or two articles, some one or two hundred... and how many have left in a huff of one sort or another? even 2%?

that's some big numbers there alright.

ollie

Thats weird, cus i planned to put records out about 18months ago, but realised it was a minefield that i wasn't ready for.

I don't use people. I don't expect anything more than people want to put in. I don't benefit if this is the greatest site in the world, other people, do. Bands. Labels. Promoters. Etc, etc.

I can't ever remember asking you do anything for me. I don't remember forcing you to do anything you didn't want to do. I do remember you filling the site that i bust my gut to run with stuff I didn't like, nor did anyone else. Yes they got a lot of comments. A lot of negative comments.

Quitcha moaning and show us you're not all talk. Go on, start a site, fill it with your articles... people like you are all talk. And apart from wasting my time, I dont see what good you do.

Sean