United by emo's Golden Age: a reminder of Rival Schools' peers
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This summer the much-revered Rival Schools, whose United By Fate LP of 2001 (pictured) remains a favourite amongst DiS readers and staffers alike, are to perform live in the UK and at a number of European festivals, including the DiS-sponsored Hove Festival. The Walter Schreifels-led four-piece enjoyed a great degree of acclaim prior to their 2003 disbanding, and their return is likely to be seen as a precursor to the possibility of that fabled second album.
United By Fate, reviewed here, reached number 44 on Our 66 of 2006, a run-down of the best albums since 2000; while rightly regarded as a brilliant post-hardcore LP infused with pop sensibilities, the album landed at a time when its genre of choice was enjoying great popularity, particularly in the UK music press who were directing ears the way of Michigan, Milwaukee and Missouri for the sweet, sweet sounds of what can also be regarded as one stage of what we widely consider emo to be today. I.e.: emotional hardcore, lyrical honesty set to combustive riffs and hook-filled melodies, with just a tinge of melancholy creeping in.
While emo’s roots go way back to the mid-‘80s, and bands like Rites of Spring, Shudder To Think and Hoover – we’re not giving the genre the Math-Rock Family Tree treatment just yet – the period of 1997-2001 produced a number of albums that, alongside United By Fate, should be held aloft as perfect examples of their kind. Here, DiS takes a little look at a few other LPs that, really, any self-respecting fan of Rival Schools should also have on their shelves. Think of these releases as being representative of a Golden Age of emo…
The Promise Ring
The Promise Ring
Nothing Feels Good
(1997, Jade Tree)
Milwaukee-based outfit The Promise Ring had already made an impact upon the indie fraternity with their debut album 30? Everywhere, but their second of a year later saw them cross over onto mainstream radars with MTV getting behind the album’s key single, ‘Why Did We Ever Meet?’. Immediately engaging, the album’s syrupy lyrical content, showcased on said single, led to the band being classed as an emo act, even if their jangled arrangements were an echo, of sorts, of ‘80s R.E.M. and their peers. Featuring a former member of Cap’N Jazz amongst their ranks – namely Davey vonBohlen, who’d originally started The Promise Ring as a side-project to the Kinsella brothers-featuring alt-rock outfit – the band ultimately laid the foundations for what is now considered emo, by mixing accessibility with a degree of sentimentality and originality in their sometimes cutesy and quirky wordplay. While further albums followed the release of Nothing Feels Good _– their final, _Wood/Water, the only one to not be released via Jade Tree – not one matched the engrossing content found on this sophomore effort, an album so vital to the development of a fluctuating-still movement that it lent its title to a book on the topic of emo, Nothing Feels Good: Punk Rock, Teenagers, and Emo, by Andy Greenwald.
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Braid
Braid
Frame And Canvas
(1998, Polyvinyl)
Forming in Illinois in 1993, Braid were among the most productive post-hardcore/emo groups of this Golden Age period we’re focusing on, releasing seven long-players including 2000’s career-summarising live offering Lucky To Be Alive, which rather ironically contained new material. Debut Frankie Welfare Boy Age Five was a sprawling, inconsistent mess of muddled ideas and semi-realised potential, and its follow-up The Age Of Octeen failed to win over the critics entirely. Not so Frame And Canvas. Released in 1998, Braid’s third LP was a perfect blend of sing-along choruses and addictive guitar-pop motifs; ‘Killing a Camera’ was an obvious first-time standout, but opener ‘The New Nathan Detroits’ and ‘Milwaukee Sky Rocket’ quickly became live favourites, both making the Lucky To Be Alive tracklisting. After splitting in 1999, frontman Bob Nanna and drummer Damon Atkinson formed Hey Mercedes, whose Everynight Fire Works debut features below, and Braid briefly reformed in 2004 for a handful of shows in the States and Japan. No UK gigs happened though, and it’s unlikely they’ll tour again anytime soon.
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The Get Up Kids
The Get Up Kids
Something To Write Home About
(1999, Vagrant)
Forming in 1995, The Get Up Kids’ second album Something To Write Home About completely eclipsed their 1997 debut Four Minute Mile (recorded with Shellac’s Bob Weston) in terms of critical praise and commercial rewards, becoming a must-have for fans of the blossoming emo scene. Admired by the likes of Weezer and Green Day – they opened for both on stateside tours, and also attracted sponsorship from Napster – The Get Up Kids soon outgrew their Kansas City roots to become a fixture on international festival bills, appearing at Reading in the UK among many others. Something To Write Home About not only opened new doors for its makers, but also established Vagrant as an independent label of fine pedigree; it would later go on to release albums by Alkaline Trio and Eels. Although never keen on the ‘emo’ tag, The Get Up Kids nevertheless acknowledged that Something To Write Home About was a record that fitted the mould quite wonderfully well, and its huge appeal must be regarded as a turning point for the genre: no doubt Fall Out Boy were taking notes. The band broke up for good in 2005 after also exploring a variety of side projects; like Braid, a live album, Live! @ The Granada Theater is their parting release.
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Glassjaw

Glassjaw
Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence
(2000, Roadrunner)
Glassjaw’s explosive debut Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence was a critical smash, muddling conventional east coast hardcore elements – the then-quintet hail from New York – with abrasive and tremendously emotive vocal performances from frontman Daryl Palumbo; they could, conceivably, have been massive had it not been for their singer’s persistent problems with Crohn’s disease, which prevented the band from touring much between this and its 2002 follow-up Worship & Tribute (indeed, they still struggle to fulfil live commitments). As it was the band enjoyed a substantial underground following (and continue to) but never truly crossed over, and their label allegedly did very little to alter that; a predominantly metal stable, Roadrunner had perhaps bitten off more than even they could chew with this beast of an album, and their promotion for it was average at best if tales are to be taken as gospel. Everything… was produced by nu-metal father figure Ross Robinson, who would work on the same year’s Relationship Of Command by At The Drive-In (review). Glassjaw’s as-yet-untitled third album is expected later this year.
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Small Brown Bike
Small Brown Bike
Dead Reckoning
(2001, No Idea)
Although playing in rather more hardcore circles than the above-mentioned acts, there’s no doubt that Michigan’s Small Brown Bike, in hindsight, were an emo act worthy of acclaim to a Rival Schools level. Gruff of voice and crunching of riff though they were, attracting comparisons to Hot Water Music and Planes Mistaken For Stars (themselves an act worthy of investigation: fans of the heavy check out 2001’s Fuck With Fire, softer sorts aim for their self-titled EP on Deep Elm), the band’s vocals from brothers Mike and Ben Reed were rarely anything other than what’s traditionally considered emo: heart-on-sleeve outpourings, albeit set to some truly devastating arrangements. Slow build-ups lend Dead Reckoning, the quartet’s second studio album (and second to last, 2003’s The River Bed their final release), a real sense of drama, as songs like ‘The Vacuum’ and ‘My Own Disaster’ crank the tension considerably before inevitable release, a tone of true threat trespassing into the lyrics. The album’s closer, ‘I Will Bury You In Me’, remains a real string-tugger to this day, genuine emotion pouring from the speaker cones as the drums go ballistic. Small Brown Bike split in 2004, playing their last show at Chicago’s Fireside Bowl, but reformed briefly in 2007 for a few more gigs to support a friend who was suffering from leukemia.
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Thursday
Thursday
Full Collapse
(2001, Victory)
New Jersey act Thursday didn’t really know what they were getting into when signing with Victory for the release of their second album, Full Collapse. Their debut, Waiting, was handled by local label Eyeball – who also released early material by My Chemical Romance – but the band stepped their game up for its follow-up, which saw the band indulge themselves by incorporating newly turbulent time signatures and vocalist Geoff Rickly become something of a poster boy for emo and post-hardcore. Despite the greater distribution channels Victory provided the band, Thursday were unhappy with some of the ways their image was used in the promotion of Full Collapse – one story tells of the label wanting to make whoopee cushions branded with the band’s name. Also, the single ‘Understanding in a Car Crash’ was given a video made up of random live footage, without the band’s consent. (The second single, ‘Cross Out The Eyes’, had a ‘proper’ video – see below.) Relationship souring, Thursday terminated their contract with Victory by releasing the poor Five Stories Falling EP, essentially a live record with one new song on it, which the band encouraged fans to download rather than purchase the EP. Still touring today, Thursday’s profile may be a fraction of what it once was, but their Full Collapse album was one of the major releases of its kind at its time.
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Hey Mercedes
Hey Mercedes
Everynight Fire Works
(2001, Vagrant)
Bob Nanna’s post-Braid outfit’s debut album was a triumph of pop immediacy over indie-rock clichés, unafraid to bust out the sing-along moves but also retaining that underground edge that’s ensured that his previous group remain such a hugely revered band. Following a self-titled EP on Polyvinyl – home to Braid, of course – Hey Mercedes signed with Vagrant – home to The Get Up Kids, of course – for their album, Everynight Fire Works. From the first song, ‘The Frowning Of A Lifetime’, onwards, it’s clear that no quarter is being given in songwriting terms, the crisp production from J Robbins – himself a key mover and shaker of this period, as frontman of Burning Airlines, who fizzled out in 2002 after a pair of recommended records – lifting these compositions above the crowded market’s also-rans. Hard touring from the outset – in 2001 they played well over 100 shows – Hey Mercedes opened new ears to the emo scene, and to the likes of The Promise Ring, Jawbox, Texas Is The Reason, Jets To Brazil and more. While Everynight Fire Works was never a hit, despite favourable reviews and underground responses, its basic framework of insistent guitars and catchy melodies, together with those essentially soul-bearing lyrics, has undoubtedly been influential on today’s emo torchbearers.
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DiScuss: As the above is by no means exhaustive, what were your favourite post-hardcore/emo releases of the Rival Schools era? At The Drive-In aren't here because... well... because you should all have their records already. Space here for The Ataris, or The Movielife? Too pop for ya? Misery guts…
See Rival Schools on tour this summer:
June
11 London Kings College
13 Donnington Download Festival
17 Birmingham Academy 2
18 Leeds Cockpit
19 Glasgow King Tut’s
21 Portsmouth Wedgewood Rooms
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TGUK
Something To Write Home About is a truly great record.
Knapsack:
This Conversation Is Ending, Starting Right Now
Mineral: The Power of Failing
Sunny Day Real Estate: Diary
The Promise Ring: Very Emergency
Texas Is The Reason: Do You Know Who You Are?
Jimmy Eat World: Clarity
^ all of this ^
10 points.
But Very Emergency is a bit lame innit.
Really.
Compared to Nothing Feels Good.
No?
and yes to the Movielife
nay to the ataris.
pop-punk more surely?
Mike...
have you gone mental?
First the math rock thing and now this...
I love
Jersey Shore more than any song on Nothing Feels Good.
I love them both.
Mental how?
I mean, yes.
Ish.
Not enough tea, you see, for me.
x
hifh?
what about Hell Is For Heroes: The Neon Handshake. I know it was 2003, but its quite similar in sound to united by fate.
And its one of the best/most underrated albums ever
More
Jawbreaker: 24 hr Revenge Therapy and Dear You
Sense Field: Building
Christie Front Drive: Anthology
Jets To Brazil: Perfecting Loneliness (I expect to be alone on this)
maybe even Far: Water and Solutions
Why don;t we go back a bit and...
talk about Quicksand who were far superior to Rival Schools... in fact Quicksand were really rather incredible.
*COUGH*
I prefer Wood/Water myself.
Bloody bunch
of emo boys!
Yeah
Something to Write Home About really is the best record... pretty much ever.
lifetime?
i'll think of some more when i get home from work.
I like
War All The Time more than Full Collapse. So there.
Also, I loved Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence as much as everyone else - and to this day, it's best bits still kick my ass. But there was some right filler on there, wasn't there?
far
.
flashback
to awesome ULU gig.
Yeah
Jerseys Best Dancers :)
As some people
may know, I am partial to a bit of emo. Prefer the poppier stuff as I'm no hardcore kid though, so of those I'll hi five for The Promise Ring alone.
Rival Schools was okay I guess, I can see the appeal of Get Up Kids but it was a bit too gooey for me. Saves The Day are worthy of a mention for their Stay What You Are album onwards. Since then the best of the bunch in my ears have been:
Brand New (Deja Entendu)
Spitalfield (Stop Doing Bad Things)
The Early November (The Mother, The Mechanic and The Path)
Panic At The Disco (Pretty. Odd.)
Nada Surf (Let Go - borderline emo).
The Audition's new album is sort of good in an hilarious way.
Best 'genre' of music ever
Although Clarity is definitely a glaring omission. Add that and The Movielife's Forty Hour Train Back To Penn and I'd probably be happy to only listen to albums in this article and nothing else for ever.
Those heady emo days...
Deep Elm wouldn't have had a leg to stand on without that lot.
End Serenading was a far more accomplished Mineral album...
Everyone knows people only say The Power of Failing to sound cool.
I jest... I jest.
Nah, Movielife weren't part of this.........
Drive Thru had a seriously WEAK roster.
The new Panic album?
The Audition?
You've got to be kidding!
SAMIAM
'Astray' and to a lesser extent 'You are freaking me out'.
Lots of good stuff here, utterly perplexed by mentions of The Movielife though!
Those of us who were around for all of this will tell you that nobody at the shows, writing for fanzines and generally into this stuff considered The Movielife to be part of it at all. They were just mall punk. Drive Thru records as a whole was a terrible label, someone will mention NFG, The Starting Line or Homegrown next next, just weak pop punk.
great article
its always nice to see SBB getting a mention. How about these 3 from 2001?
Desaparecidos - Read Music, Speak Spanish
Garrison - Be A Criminal
Hot Water Music - A Flight and A Crash
^ Desa, good shout
Although his lyrics in Bright Eyes are definitely more 'emo' than the Desa lyrics.
Garrison - Be A Criminal
Amazing album.
The first NFG album is brilliant
I definitely think it's got a lot more substance than a band like The Starting Line. The Movielife were great as well, I definitely think they're worth mentioning as they've got that sort of hardcore edge. But yeah, if you really think NFG are weak pop punk try listening to Nothing Gold Can Stay, that is if you haven't already I guess, in which case fair play haha.
Planes Mistaken For Stars 'Fuck with Fire'
Trapdoor Fucking Exit 'S/T'
Twelve Hour Turn 'The Victory of Flight'
True North 'We Speak in Code'
Gunmoll 'Anger Management in Four Chords or Less'
Spy Versus Spy - Little Lights
and then pretty much all of the records mentioned above
As Friends Rust 'Won'
Fairweather 'If they move....kill them'
Elliott 'False Cathedrals'
Grade 'Under the radar' / 'Headfirst straight to hell'
They're fine for what they are...
but, they're no more part of this than bands like Good Charlotte or Simple Plan. I just find it weird the way some people seem to want to lump mall punk in with these bands. They really weren't part of it at all.
I was
gonna say 'won' but I thought it was probably too hardcore...
Wait wait
Everynight Fireworks > Loses Control? REALLY?
oh yes.
Interesting shout out for As Friends Rust... not listened to Won for AAAAGES. Will do this eve after the football maybe.
Saves the Day?
and you think the Get Up Kids are gooey? Hmmm. I found listening to Saves the Day like eating chocolate covered chocolate.
Also- aren't the Get up Kids are Lawrence, Kansas boys?- hence Live at the Granada, the legendary shithole in Lawrence ( I love it reallllyyy.Ish). I wouldn't be calling them Missourians...
Good call, are you going to the show at the Underworld?
I'm about to book a ticket before it sells out.
Didn't know they were touring...
...totally out of the loops I used to be in!
Very true.
Been listening to a lot of Get Up Kids recently funnily enough
didnt realise
tickets were on sale yet. I'm there.
^^^
God I'd forgotten about that album. May dig it out now.
The only Saves The Day I listen to
is Sound The Alarm really, that's a top album and a bit less, well, pathetic sounding.
issit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City%2C_Missouri#Rock.2FBlues.2FHip-Hop
probably not
no
good one
massive YES at whoever said Twelve Hour Turn
Boilermaker and Boys Life too.
Jimmy Eat World -
Clarity was definately a big one.
I'm very happy that Rival Schools are touring :D I was listening to United By Fate all yesterday!
I prefer
Everything released by Maritime to everything released by The Promise Ring.
There, I said it. Davey's voice and lyrics are infinitely better on his more recent stuff.
I love Nada Surf
Let Go is one of my favourite albums ever, but I don't really see it as emo.
Eliott - False Cathedrals
But they were pretty much completely unknown this side of the pond. Superb record, and one of the best live bands I've ever seen.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this
And lemme add, I strongly disagree. To a band, this is utter crapola.
'False Cathedrals' is a brilliant album.
I also third Garrison's 'Be A Criminal' and give a shout for the follow up EP 'The Model' which was probably the best thing they ever did.
Kids Near Water
I LOVED that band. Sooooo good.
Thursday
and no Far?
Buh?
jau!
slip was ace! can anyone remember gorilla biscuits? his band before quicksand?
oooh memories...:-)
yeah, really loved samiam! loved you are freaking me out!!!
Why mention Small Brown Bike
and fail to include the infinitely superior Casket Lottery?!
Shame on you, Diver.
SHAME.
what about...
boysetfire?!?
Fair Play
But- The Appleseed Cast are Lawrence as well- it's a small hippy/college town an hour outside KC (but in Kansas, not Missouri). All bands from there are labelled with the KC moniker, which is just to hop onto the big city status...
Oh god, I'm boring myself. I'll stop.
You forgot some of the forfathers
Whenever I think of emo I think of Sunny Day Real Estate Texas is the Reason, Far and Quicksand.
I think that Full Collapse by Thursday changed the face of the underground punk movement and was the commercially successful equivalent of Refused's Punk the shape of things to come.
Can't wait to see Rival Schools again that album is still one of my most played.
Haven't been to Kings since the last Vex Red show, crikey that must be a while back.
Casket Lottery weren't all that, and nor were Small Brown Bike
ah Boy sets Fire
i was glad i saw them before they split!!
Spy Vs Spy were damn good!! as were stars rain down!
No Hot Water Music?
Fuel for the hate game, Finding the rhythms or No Divisions anyone?
Also Water and Solutions by Far.
while
I disagree, but they are all in the same band now:
http://www.myspace.com/ablebakerfox
and they are awesome
They ARE awesome.
SBB were annoyingly inconsistent though.
.
come see tguk frontman matt pryor on tour with current band the new amsterdams (vagrant) in may.... cargo london on 19th, night and day manchester, thekla bristol and abc2 glasgow.
.
this is like when you talk to friends over who remembers which kids tv program........ but i like it......some notable mentions maybe to.... the beautiful mistake, early funeral for a friend, early Juliana Theory, brandston ... maybe even rufio
i like this article
I should probably listen to Hey Mercedes. Those Braid and Get Up Kids albums you mention are a pair of absolute classics. Never really listened to Rival Schools, actually...
Nothing Feels Good
Is one of my all time favourite records, just an absolute triumph.
I guess Waxwing might fit in with this lot.
3 albums, all of which were either
very good or fucking good. Where's the inconsistency?!
Waxwing! <3
I haven't listened to them in so long, awesome.
also a bunch
of amazing EPs and a good Smiths cover!
I don't care where, just FAR!
As one or two others have said, this era was all mightily indebted to Far's Tin Cans and Water & Solutions records. But even in this specific period, the post-Far Jonah band, New End Original bested most of what's nominated with Thriller.
Good/Bad times.
The fact that they were one of either.
Never consistently AMAZING though.
Casket Lottery, on the other hand, were.
(IMO).
has anyone
played emogame?
No mention of D-Plan??
both Emergency & I and Change are two superior albums of this era
Ooooh
Big no. NFG have roots, man! Their guitarist was in Shai Hulud and they had been playing hardcore and pop-punk shows since they were about 14!
Fair enough they are shite now and have been for about 8 years, but they are definitely not in the same camp as Good Charlotte or Simple Plan!
I fully endorse this article
but I'd add stuff by American Football and Juno to it
I have a Casket Lottery / Waxwing split...
...somewhere.
Jets to Brazil
Orange Rhyming Dictionary FTW!
The Get up kids album is the favourite from that set for me
Best DiSlist article ever.
That Get Up Kids album is one of the only albums I probably consider as a 'perfect' album. But I still think On A Wire is cruelly overlooked because of it.
Also
Rainer Maria!
samiam
<3 Astray
water & solutions was 1998
that counts as this period, shirley?
Hey Mercedes?
Three quarters of Braid, but nowhere near three quarters as good, no?
Texas Is The Reason, Christie Front Drive, Kolya, American Football...
Ahhhh. I fuckin' love emo.
The Promise Ring
Very Emergency
I love it.
Dismemberment Plan is a good point
But I am not sure they were really pigeoned into that lot.
Spy Vs Spy were pretty amazing first time round didn't get to see them last year, apparently there are more dates on the cards this year?
Thinking about Boysetsfire, I think that they should probably sit in that collective but then you would have to include A.F.I and I don't think they should be credited with anything bar bad haircuts and cheesy videos.
I love
The Art of Drowning so much though.
so boo sucks.
I remember reading a great article in Alternative Press
about the top five bands that brought breakdowns into the mainstream, and number one was New Found Glory, mainly because of the Shai Hulud connection.
Quicksand!
Have you guys heard Moondog? World’s fastest Car? These are bands between GB and Quicksand. Never properly recoded but bootlegs are available.
Disagree
POF was wait more poignant and raw thank End Serenading.
Yes, yes, yes
Born and raised on this stuff. If you have not heard the album Hag Seed by Thirty Ought Six then I am sorry.
More picks -
Kerosene 454 – Situation at hand is also definitive listening in early 90’s emo.
RadioFlyer – members of Hoover
Aniocht Arrow and Angel Hair – Although more of the hardcore side, very seminal during the same time and part of the same scene.
Garden Variety – Way underrated band that’s made a couple of fine albums.
Boys Life – Another emo wet dream from the 90’s. Did a split with Christy Front Drive.
Seven Story Mountain – Similar to Sunny Day
Trans Megetti - Edgy post-punk/hardcore
Blue Tip – No explanation needed
Great list
moving house and packing cds away i had a bit of 90s emo session. Texas is the Reason, Samiam (Clumsy and You are Freaking)etc. Someone mentioned Fairweather - great album. And I prefer Wood / Water to other PR albums too. Aah, when emo was good...
Oh rly?
When I saw Promise Ring touring Wood/Water they seemed so tired... the time they were supporting Jimmy Eat World... sad times.
Braid > Hey Mercedes
For sure.
But.
Everynight is better than the first two Braid LPs. Movie Music parts I and II and Frame, p'haps not.
Change
ist awesome.
But.
Associated with these acts? DC innit (?)... did J Robbins produce?
Surely it has to be
Through Being Cool if we're talking Saves the Day - or even Can't Slow Down. Certainly anything after Stay What You Are is a bit pathetic?
Amen
to the Desaparecidos - Conor Oberst's best work right there
I feel very embarrassed that I used to listen
to this sort of toss. It makes me cringe to the max now.
How about...
very early Alkaline Trio - that album of 7" stuff with Cooking Wine, My Friend Peter etc simply named Alkaline Trio is sheer genius
And... If i mention the first Hundred Reasons album will i be lynched?
more so than writing
'to the max'?
Its a photo finish
if I'm honest. Eleven To Your Seven was good, I'll concede that.
Its not you, its me.
i was about to say
early hundred reasons too. Although more the EPs though.
Really...
probably because it sounds completely different to their other albums. A bit more of laid back sound I think, I really like it . Not to say that Nothing Feels Good isn't pretty special, it is. I never saw them live.
Total and utter boke at some of the artists here
The inclusion of braid and the promise ring, yeah, tight, but the rest, jeeeeez. I mean, Hey Mercedes?! Surely there is a glaring mistake in not listing American Football? I thought they were pretty popular on here? Not midewestmo enough, perhaps.
Anyway, i'm in a hot uni library just now, so i can't really think properly...but LOVESICK deserve a mention. You can get their discog on interpunk for about £3. Dae it. I'll come back to this when i'm not so uncomfortable.
^
The EPS are good. I'd completely lost all interest by the time Shatterproof was released.
Other british stuf:
Rydell and Babies Three?
Yes to the guy who said seven storey mountain.
Also
Four Minute Mile is way better than Something To Write Home About.
^ This
Can't slow down was fun, even if it was the biggest Lifetime rip-off of all time.
Through Being Cool was good bouncy pop fun and Can't Slow Down was their finest hour.
It's only Chris Conley left from the classic line-up now, everything post CSD is weak.
no no no
spy vs spy were immense
i've got one of theirs and its
brilliant. U.S. Songs.
mentioning
The New Amsterdams would have been nice!
supposedly
because Van Bohlen had come close to death from a brain tumour before the album, which fairly understandably changed his outlook on life...
^ The one
with Remus on it...
down by law
was the other band on the tip of my tongue.
SHOTMAKER
amazing stuff.
definitely
that was EP2 wasn't it?
Shotmaker are amazing.
But they don't belong on this list.
down by law?
Pop punk and mediocre pop punk at that.
and
Frankie is better than Frame & Canvas.
not quite sure how Cap'n Jazz got into the "Math-Rock" article but not this one.
some glaring mistakes
no mention of Indian Summer or Antioch Arrow either
Cursive!
Whatever you think of their current stuff Domestica, Burst and Bloom and Such Blinding Stars For Starving Eyes were ace Emo albums from the period.
Oh, the nostalgia!
Interesting stuff...
It's quite refreshing to read something about 'emo' which actually talks about stuff that I would consider to be emo, and is all really good. Plus its given me a couple of other bands (braid, Small Brown Bike) to check out. That whole early 00s vagrant thing was great, Hot Rod Circuit, Hey Mercedes, Saves The Day, all great bands.
disappointing
collective zine is the only site that really understands this genre ;-)
here is an overview of emo i wrote a few years ago, it avoids the pitfalls of some of the shittier bands mentioned such as rival schools...
http://ubb.kerrang.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=909768&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
OH NOES IT IS ON THE KERRANG FORUM, HOW CAN IT BE WORTH READING?
because i wrote it, and i know this shit inside out.
nah
frankie welfare boy is a horrible record. i could make a case for age of octeen, but not fwb.
...
the friction stuff is far better than fwb too. and we really need an orwell discography. that shit is hot. it's a shame that the mediocre sky corvair album got a reissue yet there is nothing for orwell.
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