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The Weekly DiScussion: celebrating our Gateway Acts

A boozy bar-side discussion gets nostalgic: just who did turn you onto music, beyond the popsters filling the charts (and, of course, fuelling the comparatively weaker budgets for some of our favourites) and the regular channels spewing sound-alike boy/girlband slush? Rifle through memory banks pixellated by pints too many, over years too few (a necessary evil of this business, at least ‘til you’re forty and/or diagnosed with something preventative)… um… oh yeah.

Everyone has to start somewhere, and this week’s DiScussion celebrates those bands; the brave men and women who had a chance taken on them, and their thrusting forth into the wider world opened teenage ears (or pre-teen lugs, even, if you were lucky/cool enough) to sounds fascinatingly new, even if they weren’t, really. These bands, we’ll call them Gateway Acts – today you can look at a band like Enter Shikari, crazy-popular with The Kids, and acknowledge that they are a Gateway Act. Today them, tomorrow Refused… and then on to Botch, maybe. Basically, a world is opened by a source deemed creatively irrelevant by critics such as myself. They serve a purpose beyond any surface-evident intentions.

Me, I was getting into music just as something significant was stirring stateside; before I knew it I was copying a copy of a copy of a Soundgarden cassette, Badmotorfinger, and getting fed names by a friend whose older sister was, at the time, this amazingly cool girl who knew all about the sort of music I wanted to be owning. Red Hot Chili Peppers – brilliant, before I’d even got a copy of Blood Sugar Sex Magik. Mudhoney – I wanted to be in them well prior to pressing play on Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge. These names were like mythological greats to me – names I wanted scrawled on my First Year pencil case, on my glasses case, on anything I displayed publicly at school, where the lines were drawn regarding Who Likes What Music, And What That Says About Them. I was, before I actively sought to be one, a ‘grunger’.

But, of course, one band above all set me on my way: Nirvana. Absolutely, positively, the most important band the development of my musical tastes and appreciation. I played my Nevermind tape to death, its final few minutes sounding awful as the deck chewed up the cheapo C90 I’d used to rip-off another copy of a copy. (Incidentally, I ‘properly’ owned Bleach _before _Nevermind, although the latter LP was already widely available at the time of said purchase. I’m not that cool.) When I got the album on CD, I was hooked: I accumulated as much Nirvana material as I could, up until I was about 20, and now have a shelf full of singles, promos and crap bootlegs; they, however massively popular they were in the world outside of my bedroom, meant everything to me. The first anniversary of Kurt’s passing was marked by my group of mates, one of whom still a ringer for the late singer, with a trip to Southampton to watch Dumb & Dumber. Tears of laughter, tears of sadness, muddled with only Jim Carey for comfort.

From Nirvana, I moved through some Britpop – Oasis, Blur, Pulp, early Radiohead – and onto a group of bands I’d read about but never ever would have listened to had it not been for the Nirvana Affect: The Melvins, The Jesus Lizard (yes, I have the split, on blue vinyl), Flipper, Earth… many more. Now, whenever I look over my Nirvana collection, I’m spurred to play something else. No disrespect to the band that quite clearly kick-started my love of music; more a celebration of the fact that their influence has pointed me to so many more brilliant bands, either directly or completely not.

So, that’s me. I’d also say Radiohead have been hugely significant in my musical growth, but they didn’t click with me ‘til the second release of ‘Creep’ (as featured on Now 26, where I first properly heard it). And besides, they’re still firing on all cylinders and are, quite possibly, still a Gateway Act for eleven and twelve year olds today. Maybe... Okay, probably not. Now, some other DiS staffers recall their own Gateway Acts:

Mike Diver, 27

 

Christ... now here’s some dirty laundry I don’t want to air in public – my inroad to music geek analdom would have to be the Manic Street Preachers, I suppose, after previous obsessions with Guns ‘N’ Roses, Nirvana and Radiohead amounted to nothing. The trick was they were very open about flagging up bands a lot better than they were, most notably The Clash, but also Buzzcocks, Wire, The Smiths, Joy Division and, when I’d started scraping the barrel of UK punk with makeweights like The Undertones, the artier/less-shouty strains of the American punk scene. I was actually into Television, The Stooges, Richard Hell et al just before The Strokes hit, which led to intermingling feelings of smugness and territorial despair on my part. And some dodgy leather jackets.

Alex Denney, 25

 

I can understand why At The Drive-In might seem a dubious choice for a Gateway Act, given that they weren’t Green Day, or Oasis, or the Libertines, never achieved any real commercial success and they’d all but imploded by the time I got round to hearing ‘Arc Arsenal’ for the first time. But it’s the distance that lay between myself and the quintet – I never once saw them live – that, I think, allowed my interest in them to explode into teenage obsession. Before that, all had been on hand and obvious, my record collection belonging to the classicist rock canon that continues to vaunt acts inbred by ‘60s Byrds jangle and the Beatles’ impish pursuit of popular culture. ATD-I didn't measure up to what my dad and my friends called ‘real music’, but to ears fortunately raised on the bruised destiny and skewed mind’s eye of Bowie the spine-tingling dive mid-way through ‘Arc Arsenal_’ sounded like the real-est thing I could be listening to at the turn of the century.

My relationship with that record was cemented on a gruelling coach trek around the European sites of World War II and when I returned from Auschwitz, Krakow and Prague with the sole CD I’d taken with me I set about collecting everything else they’d written with urgency. Acrobatic Tenement is still vastly underrated, ‘Napoleon Solo’ still affects, ‘Extracurriculur’ still vexes all spiders within a twelve mile radius,_ et cetera, ad infinitum_. The Mars Volta and Sparta may both be rubbish, but it doesn’t matter too much when the band they used to be still exists at the bottom of a well somewhere. I’m gonna go and chuck a rope down now, actually, though I’m sure I’ll be met with the contemptuous scowls fit for a dewy-eyed tosser.

Kev Kharas, 22

 

Rejuvenating the flailing interests of anyone hesitant to affiliate with the nu-metal and (speed) garage brigades, with fringe on lip and politely scuffed knee, Julian Casablancas and his set of Manhattan garage revivalists rekindled greying enthusiasts’ past affections and inspired young oiks to rummage through uncle’s Pavement, Talking Heads and Ramones records.

Off the back of the hype that the Modern Age EP garnered, it marked a move from the necessity for the inanely epic production of records. Raw and with a sullen cool, it was the simplicity and pop sensibility of it all that was so engaging rather than any particular awe-inspiring genius, but the fact that The Strokes inspired a new glut of individuals to listen to Jonathan Richman instead of Chester Bennington means the New York beatniks are well worth their salt.

Samuel Strang, 22

 

As a media-hungry adolescent with a fixation on* Radiohead*, it’s quite lucky that Thom Yorke has relatively good taste in music. It wasn’t so much attempting to find other bands like Radiohead, it was more following the recommendations of the band themselves. When I read a tale about the recording of ‘Creep’, it mentioned their self-depreciatory comment about it being their “Scott Walker song”. Bang.

After that, Scott 4 was procured and deeply admired. Then there were all the other deeply intense-looking ‘60s and ‘70s songwriters, from Neil Young to Tom Waits to Lou Reed. It was like a domino effect of cool yet maudlin artists looking corrosively angry and lamenting in turns. Somehow, that created a brief obsession with Red House Painters – either the most depressing or boring band ever, I still haven’t decided. Neil Young probably took me furthest into new territory, in that (alongside all the Gram Parsons-alikes et al) he flung open a doorway that ushered in Wilco, Whiskeytown and all the other alt-country flotsam and jetsam. An additional Gateway word of praise must go to the Super Furry Animals, given that they created a love of Brian Wilson, all things psychedelic and the Nuggets box set. Oh, and Dexys Midnight Runners. As you do.

Gareth Dobson, 28

 

DiScuss: What bands turned _you onto the fact that there was so much more beyond Top Of The Pops, and at what age? Seems most of us found our musical feet in our early teens, or just before. What Gateway Acts are in circulation today? Green Day, maybe? What about a band like Gallows, who may inspire slam-dance-happy youths to explore punk’s past? Are there any breaking-through bands right now that you can see eventually having an influence comparable to a Radiohead, or a Nirvana?

I object

I liked music from my big sister's record collection, like The Levellers, The Smiths amongst others BUT it was seeing Pulp's 'Common People' on Top Of The Pops that got me genuinely over-excited about the potential aceness of music. TOTP FTW.

If I was a kid today I'd be pretty happy with Arcade Fire. Or something.

Significant artists/albums

Guns n Roses - Appetite for Desctruction
Nirvana - Nevermind
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Mogwai - Young Team
Dj Shadow - Endtroducing
Radiohead - Kid A (led me to Warp Records)

I'm 29. Older than all you DiS writer whipper snappers

first i think it was my older brothers music

things like Guns n Roses, Ugly Kid Joe and Metallica.

then as I got older, the second wave was 'britpop' indie. Oasis, Manic Street Preachers, Ocean Colour Scene etc.

I can't be arsed to add anything more.

Andy, 26.

Im with Kev Kharas

on this one. At the drive in were the band who dragged me away from the horrible dubious music taste i used to have.

Lucky for me i did see them live once. Sorry Kev but it was mindblowing!

They then let onto fugazi, shellac etc and basically opened the doors to what i like to call 'the good stuff'.

Manic Street Preachers

It aint no dirty laundry.

It was The Ramones - Loco Live

From out of Nowhere by Faith no More and and Appetite for destruction for me.

Thanks to my sisters vinyl collection. Cheers sis!

The Stone Roses did it for me

Though I'm not sure quite where i stand on that that now - my tastes tend to sway towards vocalists who can actually hit notes and guitarists who aren't obsessed with led 'cunting' zeppelin. But fucking hell, to hear Reni rip open the skins during Waterfall still sends shivers down my spine. Genius, genius drummer - shame about The Rub though.

it is when

you're caked in eyeliner and holy bible-style combat trousers. there i've said it.

I

saw them open for someone once in a tiny club and they blew all the other bands playing on the bill out of the water.

The Cure

to impress a girl to start with but had the effect of making me LISTEN to music. Was 13 and that one moment at the back of a french lesson pretty much has defined my life until now.
Led to Swervedriver, which led to Therapy?, which led to Huggy Bear, which led to Bikini Kill and on and on.

(Cure's Wish tour was my first gig too)

Neds Atomic Dustbin

Wonderstuff, Carter US... <abandon reply>

I had 2 really

Nirvana, when I was about 11, got me into rockier/punkier/metalish stuff. Then I got a bit sidetracked on nu-metal and all that. On the plus side, it also got me into the Pixies.

My 'indier' leanings came when I first heard the Strokes when Modern Age came out.

Industrial Scene

Anyone? KMFDM, Ministry, Front 242, Revolting Cocks, Pretty Hate Machine – anyone??

The two most significant for me

were (embarassed as I am to admit this) Bon Jovi, the first guitar band I ever listened to, and then The Offspring. The first time I heard 'Smash' I was like "wow, there are other bands except Nirvana that can do shouty, angry rock, and this one even do it with a sense of humour".

I have two...

First of all, there was Idlewild - they were my first step into the worlds of alt-rock and even punk (bearing in mind I first caught them around Hope Is Important). Listening to When I Argue I See Shapes will always bring back memories of being on a bus in Germany on a sunny school trip, and the first time I ever got drunk.

Secondly, there was Black Sabbath - I remember my mate telling me about some of the artwork in his Dad's vinyl collection, and listening to various old Sabbath Records just completely amazed that for the most part, I had only thought of them through Paranoid's perpetual inclusion on "Best of dad rock" compilations.

I think Sabbath were my biggest gateway to the stuff I'm more into now, stuff like SunnO))), Melvins, Boris etc.

Mind you, the more I think back, I think Rage Against The Machine might have been responsible for some of it - certainly challenging myself to learn all the songs from the first album when I first got a bass left an indellible stamp somewhere on my brain.

- Ross, 22.

add

Rammstien to that list

no, i'm not ashamed!

from ages about 8 - 15 (approx)

in this order:

Bryan Adams (pre Everything I Do)
Queen
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Jimi Hendrix
Nirvana
Led Zeppelin
The Offspring

then later

The Prodigy
Leftfield

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE

They got me into hip-hop and heavier music

Gomez.

shuddup

Muse.

Time Is Running Out.
Never gave music even a thought really till that, got hooked in and here I am now searching for any Gutter Twins related information. It's been a fun ride!!!

This...

...was already written when I saw your thread. I did wonder if you'd pop up here, though ;o)

pics plz

Offspring

Americana was the first record I bought as a reaction against my parents classical taste.

But the first time I listened to Relationship of Command was a point of no return. 2004 I think it was.

Oh yeh I'm a young'un @ 21 ;)

That's mint

Would have loved to have seen them then, they were right at the top of their game then.

ahh i see

great minds eh?has anyone ever told you that you look like jamie lenman?

no

well now they have

you do

Coldplay - Parachutes

from there I discovered Radiohead via the Bends, then onto Elbow (Asleep in the Back) and Doves (Lost Souls) and eventually, you get to here

i'm 30 so for me it was...

Faith No More and Nirvana

those two bands got me reading the music press and actively seeking out music - mainly US indie and noise-rock band - that didn't have a big mainstream profile, or had been overlooked in the '80s

like Mike, i don't listen to my Nirvana stuff much anymore (though i do still have a battered tape copy of Nevermind) but if it weren't for them i wouldn't have heard some of my all-time favourite groups: Sonic Youth, The Replacements, Hüsker Dü, Black Flag, Meat Puppets, Butthole Surfers...

Husker Du

this board is not umlaut friendly

Motörhead

see?

Is everyone too ashamed to mention the foo fighters?

i think they were probably the starting point for many a budding music fan.

duh

umlauts seem to be working now

my bad

no

it's too damn sexy

Green Day

I liked other bands (like Foos and Manics) when i was 15, but I played Dookie, 39/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours and Insomniac a LOT, and I followed it up with forays to the Foundry (and other birmingham based venues) to watch other bands of similar ilk, which started my love of live music, and smaller/less well known bands, that I tended to prefer. I guess that's a gateway band.

It has to be said

that as a wee youngster, growing up at the tail end of Bowie in his prime... makes me cooler than all yous young-whippersnappers. Like wayyyy cooler... yaahDig?!

Black Sabbath

Sabbath led back into Blue Cheer, Stooges and the blues, plus forwards into Om, Melvins... Alright!

Mat, 26

GATEWAY BANDS

Menswear
These Animal Men
Gay Dad
Fluffy
Space
Echo Belly
JJ72
King Adora

All these bands changed my life and probably stopped me from killing myself when i was going through a very dark period in my life. Thank you so muchxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

www.myspace.com/somebodysmind

my gateways where......

Eric Clapton (was my first gig at the albert hall)
Jimi Hendrix (my first real love of music I use to make tapes in primary school of his stuff for friends)
Jean Michel Jarr (a realy early memorie of hearing it when I was realy young and being fasinated)
Blur (got me into indie)
Oasis (got me into indie)
Fatboy Slim (got me into hiphop, dance electro, soul, break beat, house..... god nows what else....
Aphex Twin (got me into Radiohead and very strange warp stuff... I didnt realy like radiohead before I listened to aphex twin and Kid A came out)
At The Drive-In (got me into heaveyer good rock music maybe Queens of the stoneage did too).

Stiff Little Fingers

Kurty boy

My Maw still calls Mr. Cobain 'Kurty Boy' due to my deep love for Nirvana as a teenager. It was them, like a BANG in my life for defs. Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Screaming Trees all followed in differing ways. But it was Nirvana and probably a cover of Aneurysm by a school rock band (!) that will always stick in my 10 year old excitement. Funnily enough, every time I hear Creep I get an image of being in my Dad's car listening to said NOW26 going round a roundabout in Dundee... every time. (Daaaaaaaad's not a creep by the by...)

Who does it right now for the impressionable ages? Right now, tonight?

admittedly

i'm only 17, so still have a long way to go. but i would include include in today's gateway acts- arcade fire, bloc party, the strokes, lcd soundsystem and i can see your reasoning behind gallows. Personal gateway acts also include the jimi hendrix experience and the clash

Limp Bizkit

were the first band i truly loved.

even if I wasn't a fan at that time ( well 'the top' was bad... )

the Cure made me discover a whole new world of music...

Velvet Underground

I was 13 and I immersed myself in the music. Never been the same since.

well...

Bryan Adams,
Bon Jovi,
Manics,
Nirvana,
Placebo,
Foo Fighters,
Muse

Then I became less of a 'grunger' and more of an indie kid thanks to Death Cab & Modest Mouse

sounds like

a stupidly obvious one, but it was definately the libertines for me. i thought they were the coolest band ever. i remember my mum looking disgustedly at the CD sleeve, before seeing that it was produced by Mick Jones, and she said something along the lines of how the clash were a 'proper band'. i kind of started there, before becoming gradually interested in indie music.

I'm nearly 19 now

And from the first year of high school it was stuff like:
Blink 182
Coldplay
Feeder
Idlewild
Muse
Linkin Park

Progressing into stuff like:
System of A Down
Queens Of The Stone Age
Hell Is For Heroes
Hundred Reasons
Biffy Clyro
Lostprophets
(There was a lot of "Britrock" and "Emo" stuff being released then, most of my friends were listening to Thursday and Funeral For A Friend)

THEN stuff like:
Rival Schools
The Bronx
Radiohead
The Music
Bloc Party
Jimmy Eat World
Rage Against The Machine
The Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster

Progressing into stuff like:
At The Drive In
Amusement Parks On Fire
The Mars Volta
65daysofstatic
Oceansize
Trail Of Dead...
Refused
yourcodenameis:milo
Million Dead
Reuben

Then into "heavier" stuff like:
The Dillinger Escape Plan
The Blood Brothers
The Fall Of Troy
Converge
Das Oath
Gay For Johnny Depp
Lightning Bolt
Meet Me In St Louis
(Some fairly recent bands there)

I've missed a lot out but that seems like a fairly large list and I can remember it all so clearly. I used to copy CDs for all my friends, I used to introduce as many people as I could to new bands, recommend them stuff, fill their mp3 players up for them, try and rally as many people as I could up to go gigs for bands they've never even heard of, many many things. I was VERY enthusiastic. I had a very good "teenhood" discovering all this music that was new to me, I went to about a million gigs. I can't ever see myself discovering so much "new" stuff in one go ever again :(

I look like a right saddo now

I didn't realise it was that long :/

for me...

it was suprisingly enough radiohead that started it. which may seem quite odd for some to believe considering that i'm 16.

p.s. i thank god everyone night that it wasn't blink 182 or other shit like that which brought me on to music.

Growing up in the US

I was subjected to a radio diet of "classic rock". A few bands like The Who were worth listening to, but my musical tastes took a complete turn when a friend of mine bought a copy of 'This is Boston, Not LA" - a compilation of hardcore punk bands like The Proletariat, Gang Green, The Freeze & Jerry's Kids. They all played super fast and all lived a few miles away from me. It was a new musical world, and then it was straight into bands like Black Flag, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Flipper, Dead Kennedys etc etc who were all at their peak at that time.

absolutely nothing wrong with Rammstein,

excellent band.

I think it has to be

The Prodigy. I remember getting 'The Fat of the Land' for christmas and being very excited and then playing it to death. I'd never heard anything like it befor - completely blew my mind. They were perhaps the only band I was interested in, until discovering Blur and The Manics. Then I moved on to some horrendous dance music, before being lent a Blink 182 album.

IRON MAIDEN

These guys blew my tiny mind, aged 7. I had a denim jacket covered in Maiden patches when I went to my first gig, aged 8, Magnum at Newcastle City Hall...

The Levellers and Suede

Old Man

Also, being from the US, 30 years old and totally infatuated in the early to mid 90’s Emo(core) scene – Braid, Christie Front Drive, Mineral, Boys Life, Vehicle Birth, Giants Chair, Drive Like Jehu.

2 Tone

Madness
The Specials
The Beat
Bad Manners
The Selector
The Bodysnatchers

Dance Craze is an extraordinary album and features a live version of Man at C&A which is thought to be the only known recording in existence of Terry Hall laughing

The Cure

Seemed dangerous and exciting, whilst poppy enough to fulfill my love of melody. Also hearing Lloyd Cole and The Commotions 'Rattlesnakes' for the first time and realising that STRING ARRANGEMENTS could be really cool.

Ah, I love this topic

Bon Jovi were the band that first made me listen to Rock.

Faith No More got me into heavier and more alternative music but also specifically Sabbath (from their War Pigs cover), Napalm Death and Corrosion of Conformity (from their tshirts). Up until that point, I only ever listened to mainstream rock that was on the Chart Show or on the cover of Kerrang! or RAW.

I can see that a lot of current bands might be gateway bands for the kids, but only because they're re-hashing what was done better before.

I posted below, but I'd like to say that 4 of those

albums are also significant for me (G'n'R, Nirvana, Pumpkins + Shadow).

Jan, 30 1/2

94- 95

Well it had to be 1994 , or 95 and I was abt 12 or 13 ... and of course Nirvana and Pearl Jam . I think it was Pearl Jam's , "Daughter" that really got me started and Nirvana's Heart Shaped Box. Then as a young teen one goes searching for more... Listening to all the rest from Pearl Jam , Nirvana ... then I think another memorable track was Mudhoney's Acetone . And at that age it becomes a way of life. Music became a lifestyle a philosophy and as a person you grow up with it. Each memory has a song. One can categorize their life by song , album, artist etc etc bla bla bla. I think those of us who grew up in the 80's or 90's - we had it good . We fortunately got the music that shaped us . Now , what will shape the early teens ? Phffff... pachooooi. There are great indie bands out there , but are they recognized as much as they should be ! Nawwwwww ! From the Weakerthans , to the Clienteles. Of course Cat Power , Metric. But is there anything "catastrophically" big as Nirvana !? I think bands have lost the sense of music - the whole aoura ... I dont want to say grunge is dead , well .... but the spirit has just turned into something much more spunky and "lets attract attention to ourselves" , whereas in the 90's "lets not attract attention to ourselves" and it was oh so attractive !
Well atleast there is Radiohead- In Rainbows , and NIN - Year Zero maybe that can inspire young teens ...

Good taste

I must say. And find the enthusiasm again!

without a doubt the 2 biggest were

jimi hendrix

and rhcp - a big obsession - especially for freaky styley which i owe so much for.

but also, ratm. the bluesbreakers' beano album (through my dad).

i used to come home from school and listen to my sisters blur, pulp and prodigy records cos, they were obviously the cool thing for older trendy kids.

then franz ferdinands first album?

i got songs for the deaf and elephant one summer and that was an important time i guess. think thats the big ones.

oh and i remember reading a newspaper article tipping the vines, the datsuns, the libertines and the strokes as potentials for 'reviving' guitar music or something. and i went into the datsuns (their first album).

and have never really liked the other bands (or other datsun albums) really.

ATDI

And QOTSA were my two. They opened up my mind to just about anything.

Jolleys list

That's a great list. I love almost all those bands on there. It seems not too many great rock acts are breaking through these days as the lighter simpler clackety indie stuff is extremely popular.

My breakthrough acts were Pulp (His n Hers) and the Manics (Holy Bible) and also Oasis too. I'm not as active in seeking out new stuff these days, but when I do find something I truly love I still get the buzz.

frank Black, 'Men in Black'

Going for £1 in my local record store in 1995, then onto the Pixies. downhill without brakes from there really...

I'd say

At the drive-in, who made me explore loads of post-hardcore stuff, and eventually led me to bands like sonic youth and the minutemen. Radiohead turned me onto loads of things as well, like DJ Shadow, etc, etc...

silverchair

When I was bout 11, immediately followed by Tool, and then all was lost.
Spose they were the Aus equivalent of Nirvana back then, after all...

Oasis,

my brother/mum had bought the 'There And Then' video (Maine Road gig, 1996) and it not only got me into music but gave me a hard-on for the idea of rock n roll; mainly due to Liam's voice and his staring at people in the crowd antics.

mine:

the strokes-kings of leon-Joy division-The Fall

The white stripes-Arcade fire-Of montreal

also my dad- every americana/record worth listening to

*americana/country

record

no need for the omitted word

RATM ftw!

The biggest influences on my music taste are.

Muse, Queens Of The Stone Age, Radiohead, Manics.

In the future I see 65daysofstatic influencing my music taste, they've changed my whole perception of what music can sound like.

The first record I ever bought

was 'Enema of the State' by Blink 182 when I was 14, but by that point I was already listening to The Smiths, The Cure and Bjork via my parents.

several

Led Zep aged 6/7 that really opened my eyes but i didn't start buying records myself due to lack of money. my mates first album was Led Zep II at the age of 7 which he is very proud of.

then i guess it was a combo of Linkin Park and Sum 41 getting me more into guitar music but then The Darkness came along and i got really into metal, mainly through reading magazines.

and my music collection just expanded really, i don't when i first got an album buy a non-charting artist but i basically stopped listening to the radio in year 8/9 i think and that was when i started exploring for myself (even if alot of it was poppunk haha)

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