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day ruined. i bet andy vine is behind this.
these are truly end of days
but it's just...nah.
There was that awful bit where Homer gets raped by a panda years ago, and the one where Marge becomes a bodybuilder and pretty much rapes him too. So it's not the first time alas.
Pretty sure the panda didn't actually rape him
truly an awful human being
so I think he's not all bad but creatively he's fucking awful.
like Matt Greoning he's had barely anything to do with the show for years (other than voices) but gets paid loads just to "create" the same show over and over
so I dunno if bants, but he probably didn't even write that
seemed to involve Moe talking to his bar towel
Nothing about this seems right.
They ran out of good ideas a long time ago.
bob's burgers is good
i hope there is never a dubious simpsons spinoff and either it just goes on forever, and people keep moaning about how bad it is now or they kill everyone off/end it on a cliffhanger in about two years
For the sole reason King of the Hill was shelved to make way for it.
And Bob's Burgers has some of the same producers too.
it's nice to have a reminder that the Simpsons used to be good.
Bart on a skateboard :/
has bob's burgers guy in it
but the rest looks like animation hell.
so why did he agree to this? Can't actually say I ever watched The Critic, but that episode is basically a classic, which seems to sidestep lazy crossover clichés.
From this clip, it looks like they've taken every hackneyed, warn out in-joke from both shows and mashed them together. Results, predictably terrible.
His involvement with that show doesn't exist anymore
think I dislike Groening to George Lucas levels, with its level of success they could have always afforded the best writers and good quality animation, they just decided to do it on the cheap.
he wanted to do something different so he did something different (Futurama obvs) and Fox probably kept on throwing money at him to keep it running. I doubt he has any real say on how the show is run and I don't think he has for a very very very long time.
He created it, he let it continue polluting the world, his fault
I imagine as mentioned he long since lost any power to stop the run (or have any influence over) of such a massive TV show. This isn't like Bill Watterson being able to decide one day he'll end Calvin and Hobbes.
You are cutting him too much slack, he created it, he owned it, it's success would have given him a lot of power, if he signed it away then it is his fault
Matt Groening worked incredibly hard to get The Simpsons to the place it was and just by being what many would consider "The Greatest TV Show of all time" and being there from it's inception. As mentioned, he already signed off on it by season 3, which is when the "golden era" began anyway so by your logic it's also his fault that some of the most cherished episodes too. By the time the rot set in, Groening had no say in it any more, that's just how (American) TV works.
FOX and Simpsons merchandise has made him an incredibly wealthy man, he's openly said the new series are shit, but it's not up to him now, it's up to FOX Executives who have to pay him loyalties.
Just the recent episodes like everyone else does and be thankful that a show managed 6 consecutive seasons of absolute gold, 9 solid ones, 11 watch-able ones which is fairly unprecedented
This article suggests to me he does still have involvement and just keeps taking the money http://dailycurrant.com/2013/09/29/simpsons-creator-thinks-show-should-end/
but that's fairly vague/loose. Of course he's taking the money, why wouldn't you? He knows his show at it's (long) peak is untouchable and nothing will change that
he just appreciates the paycheque
I read an interview recently where he said The Simpsons should've been cancelled and he's surprised its still going on
the Tracey Ullman shorts and maybe the first one or two seasons?
Then it'll make a joke that's really out of order and crosses the line of showing an ironic reflection of existing cracks in society into just making fun of people who don't deserve it, and I feel bad.
But I still go back to it, idk.
Simpsons for life though, obviously.
but those 2 minutes might have been the least funny thing i've ever seen in my life.
feel like a right cluster of wallies right now
A number of good episodes came after it (including the absolutely brilliant Movementarian one) and it wasn't even that bad in and of itself, containing a number of decent gags ("They gave me a choice — jail, the army, or apologizing to the judge and the old lady. Now, if I knew there was a war going on, I probably would've apologized"). It was simply a sharp and sobering dip in quality from the pretty much flawless six seasons that preceded it, includes a total disregard for continuity for no great pay-off and a loosely-connected-series-of-lame-jokes format that would become characteristic of later seasons, therefore making it serve as an unfortunate "where things started to go wrong" touchstone.
Bonus points if you read that in CBG's voice.
but yeah there's definitely been worse since. It's interesting hearing the writer's defence of that episode though on how it's about "people not liking change" which ended up being a tiny bit too meta for it's own good i guess
just D: utterly abysmal.
and i accepted that. i accepted it 15 years ago, but we'll always have the glory days i thought.
now feels embarrassing to even have liked it all those years ago. they're defacing their legacy.
In the title scene and the spaceship bit.
I think the animation looks good and I assume it was just another day at work for the animators.
Personally really uncomfortable seeing Bart in a frame where 'rape' is spoken aloud, or Homer in a scene where a man's head is crushed. Simpsons did have plenty of gore- Itchy and Scratchy (I used to not watch those bits).
Futurama is brilliant though and early Simpsons has wonderful dialogue and plotlines.
just really uncomfortable watching. The debasement of the greatest TV show ever made continues.
Let's do that tiresome thing where we decide exactly at what point we stopped enjoying new episodes. Looking at the full episode list, I still enjoyed a lot of season 10 (Pinchy, Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con, Homer running away from his kidney transplant, Max Power etc etc), season 11 has some jokes that I love in episodes that aren't classics but still make me laugh (unicycling in a cobra pit to 'Danger Zone', Apu yelling BANANA BREAD?!, Homer walking backwards slowly away after seeing Apu have sex, some of the Tomacco episode), after that I struggle to think of anything I'd ever want to watch again.
(I'm not saying this in chronological order, there may be worse ones before) but that one with the jockeys and their magical place.
Which ironically proclaims throughout "WORST EPISODE EVER".
Especially since it immediately follows the one where they move in to Mr Burns' house, which is totally exemplary one those really uneven episodes that have some great jokes scattered through it (monkey knife fight, "the Coast Guard's coverin' the Doobs!", Three Stooges syndrome). Plus the episode after that was where they killed Maude, which led eventually to NEDNA being a thing. And fuck that.
which I still like
and Pygmoelian, where one of my favourite Simpsons quotes comes from ("You don't love me! The only thing you love is your ear, nose, and throat pavilion!"). But yeah, that's probably where the bad episodes start outweighing the good.
Can't say I've seen all of the eps in season 18, but a few of the others I recognise weren't super-awful... is this when it started to pick up again?
and it had so much potential which was flushed by some incredibly out of place jokes
looks shite, absolute shite!