anyone been on one yet?
five years ago.
Five years ago, woah.
pretty damn smooth ride
the management of the project has been appalling but the idea is sound
it's not a waste of cash, it just cost more. it will only be a waste if people don't use it, which is now up to the people of edinburugh.
for example, i saw on the scotrail twitter this morning trains were being cancelled between haymarket and waverly. that's a perfect place for a quick hop onto the tram
Have people not legs?! It's a ten minute walk ffs.
that doesn't seem right at all.
than wait on transport, pay for a journey that'll maybe only take a few mins or potentially get stuck at the lights for ages trying to get to/along Princes Street (mostly now due to trams).
LRT was a really good bus service. Getting a half arsed tram system going from city centre to airport (though obviously it was originally meant to stretch down to Leith/Ocean Terminal) seems pointless. You can get an airport bus or a 35 out to the airport anyway. Maybe the tram is more 'direct' but it doesn't seem to make it any more worthwhile being built.
The trams have caused disruption whilst being built and now that they are running they get priority so the rest of the traffic is being slowed down and stopped around the city centre and even crossing a road as a pedestrian is slowed down when trams are nearby.
The travel options we had were fine and I don't see how someone for instance, choosing to travel on a tram instead of a bus will make any more money for the city unless hordes of people who WEREN'T using public transport suddenly decided to use the trams for novelty reasons or something. Otherwise it just seems like people may or may not swap one form of transport for another at the exact same price (unless going to airport).
that shows people are more likely to take light rail/trams over buses, becauses buses have a "poverty factor" attached to them.
I can't imagine it's quite the same over here - I'm sure we have plenty of tedious kik-types on the subject, but not to the same degree as the US, but I'm sure there's some truth to it either way.
The main advantage of the current system, and a lot of the proposed extensions, is that they run off road for the bulk of the journey, which is a massive advantage in terms of reliability. I get the bus to/from Riccarton every day when I'm at university, and the road traffic at peak times is horrendous and practically doubles the journey time.
Finally, FINALLY, Edinburgh's population is expected to grow by about 25% over the next twenty years. Most of that growth is going to come from areas in the west, north and south-east of the city (all places that were, at some stage, planned to be on the network), and it's absolutely great practice to have public transportation there first to guide the style of the development and the habits of people who live there.
who's paying you for this endorsement?
should've been spent on cycle paths instead. Nowt like a bit of ableist, pro-private ownership rhetoric.
Can't wait to visit next so I can go on the trams, they looks class. Everyone will have forgotten about the whole construction debacle in five years.
I'm going to get a shot on it next week
I did ask, but they said no.
the conductor was the happiest guy I've ever seen, he was chatting away to everyone and talking about how much he loved the trams :D
and the lines expand.
did everyone know that Glasgow is geting a tram-like new service? the Clyde Fastlink is being built and opens soon. the squinty bridge has been blocked off for ages 'cause of it. it'll be a segrgate busway, which is kinda like the tram system (but more flexible).
They really need a decent link there, it seems so strange that the only public transport there is a bus from Paisley...
that the SNP shit on.
I want a real tram, much prettier than basically redecorating a few buses and adding a new bus lane.
...overseen by TIE
...which wasn't in any way run by Labour cronies way out of their depth (but nonetheless swimming in cashmoney salaries)
...but Labour still have the cajones to bleat on about GARL not happening.
(Not saying GARL should deffo have been cancelled, but its likelihood was hardly helped by fuckups elsewhere. also: fastlink needs to reach the east end, yo).
Is that how this works? ;)
That's £55,428.57 per meter.
The Apollo missions (including building everything) cost £2601.43 per meter.
Awful AWFUL service. MASSIVELY overpriced and ALWAYS BROKEN.
It's REALLY terrible. Hopefully our Scottish cousins have learned from our mistakes.
anyway, Metrolink is class, amazing network, obviously service has been a bit shaky in the last couple of years with all the change that has been happening. But when all the new trams are there and the Second City Crossing opens, it'll be the best tram system in the UK.
It's mismanaged at every level. Delays are so commonplace on the Altrincham line, that almost everyone I know back there will use the bus to get into town instead. Having used it a lot in the past to get to work, I became accustomed to leaving 45 minutes longer for my journey because 3 days out of 5 there would be delays. Snow, delays, rain, delays, it's hot, delays. THEN the cheeky fuckers start charging more to expand, before they even sorted out the mess that is there now. It's a fine service to use if you're just going on a day out, but the whole system and subsequent expansion has been sold on how it will be great for a commute, and for THAT it is laughably terrible.
3 different bus services and a tram service. Just make one ticket for all of them like in Berlin or Barca.
re-regulation of bus services in all cities is pretty much a must, but obviously the bus companies are dead against it.
and they're BRILLIANT. For £36/month I get unlimited travel within the city and to a whole bunch of places outside it, and they recently made it much better value by adding in nightbuses and the now the tram.
only a matter of time until the rest of the UK follows!
a combined ticket would be northward of £100. Tram passes are £90 alone.
I think they've only thrown the tram in as they're obviously desperate to build up some public goodwill towards the project so they can get the next phase started as soon as.
but obviously it helps there aren't any competing interests at stake.
MY RAGE AT THE METROLINK KNOWS NO BOUNDS.
Also, they don't go anywhere useful unless you're a frequent air traveller or work at RBS.
lots of people work at RBS
lots of people work in the Gyle
lots of people work in the city centre
in a few years when Edinburgh Gateway is finished (December 2016 at the moment) people coming in from the west will be able to change to the tram to go to these places
I doubt the airport bus will be faster in five years or ten years when the traffic is infinitely worse. The tram, however, will take the same amount of time.
true story. I just like to get that in there whenever there is a semi-relevant discussion.
but they're almost all automatic. all the driver needs to do is press the "Go" button. the rest is all pre-programmed.
but that is also REALLY COOL that you drove it!!!
The Glasgow Subway smells so nice. It smells like the rat ride at Lightwater Valley.
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