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This comes out in a few days. So who's getting it then?
Its probably just a collection of essays on veganism and the new york dolls, innit
of Martin Clunes
I can't imagine that it'll be hugely revealing or scandalous but I like Mozza so fuck you.
Just looked at the Amazon page for the autobiography and everything about it seems strange: the price, the cover picture, Penguin classic, the description....
bought it. Not a bad price at all
(just a few chapters into Severed Alliance and Your Arsenal on)
but not even Moz could make me go back to Wood Green at midnight. I'll keep GTA on the tv screen for now.
if it wasnt in wood green. that's some bullshit.
surprisingly it's getting an NZ release, despite the "Europe only" stuff I was seeing everywhere. Perks of being in the commonwealth I guess.
today all being well. First time I've ever pre-ordered anything. Unfeasibly excited.
It's gotten me ridiculously excited for this book
and can't find the link now, but essentially it suggests what I expected... bitterness, score-settling, revisionism and ingratitude, with occasional passages of brilliance, apparently.
A few pages in and I think it's fair to say that it will not change the minds of any people who already dislike our lad Stephen.
I'd repeatedly heard him talk about how attractive his mother was and assumed he was doing what any decent, loving son does when talking about his mother. I was wrong.
His Mother was fairly gorgeous though to be fair.
Morrissey has published his autobiography is how BBC News just led a discussion on the book :D Way to reveal spoilers though :(
stop encouraging him
what an absolute lad this man is.
Wonder how the editing process went.
I get that that's how he's known - and that a lot of people probably don't even know his full name - but the singular name and the minimal title just adds to the wonderful arrogance of the whole thing.
because Morrissey is an absolute prick
crossed with RockNRollMassacre
but without a sense of humour
and with a legion of insane fans
Not to mention the vast majority of his lyrics.
to me it suggests more of his rampant ego and pomposity
Like he thinks he is massively important AND it would be funny to have a ludicrous picture of himself AND it would piss off some people who don't like him.
I guess it comes down to how much you think he takes himself seriously. Yeah, he's got delusions of grandeur but he knows they're just delusions, there's huge self doubt throughout his career; enough evidence that he doesn't think all that much of himself really. He's just taking the piss for his own amusement. A lot of the time out of himself.
He's been trolling for 30 years now and it's still as funny.
Although, to be fair, I suspect that may be true of his egotism as well...
He invented it!
I just think that, since his years of obscurity in the mid-90s, he's taken a decision to play up to the character people want him to be to keep his fame intact. Nothing wrong with that but I wouldn't take his public persona at face value.
I liked Morrissey
I just think nowadays how he comes across is more based around the fact he's worked out a persona that sells. Going back to the original debate, I don't think the front cover particuarly proves that he's got a sense of humour or that he's an egotist - just that he's got a head for marketing and business and that he understands what his public wants.
but he is quite racist
also I thought this bit in NME's article about the autobiography was painfully awkward
calling an ethnicity 'a subspecies' is racist. I love The Smiths, and he's said some funny stuff, but he shouldn't get a free pass for genuinely unacceptable remarks because he's Morrissey. You wouldn't let Chad Kroeger get away with it.
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it's always baffled me why people treat Nazi Varg Vikernes as some sort of cult legend on here. Can anyone explain, or are you all just cunts? (probable)
I just accept Morrissey's a pillock who used to make some really great music.
between 'being a pillock' and 'calling a different ethnicity a subspecies', not to mention calling Madonna an example of 'desperate womanhood' and a 'prostitute'. I just don't think most people would get away with that, and nor should they, I don't care how good their musical output is/was. It's really weird and unhelpful.
I don't like him much. I'm not going to chuck out my Smiths albums just because of the nonsense he spouts.
is pretty funny...
but that writing is so unforgivably bad .... the opening page reads like Jake Bugg channeling 8 mile.
I don't usually read celeb memoirs (in fact, I don't think I've ever read one) and I'm not a huge Smiths fan, but I'm interested to see how he writes at length.
The opening paragraph is indeed four pages long!
He has a way with words, but not sure how much of it I could put up with...
the 'streets to confine you/streets to define you' bit especially.
All a bit, 'gritty' spoken word night... how often did he kind aborted babies just lying about, really?
It's all a bit much, sure (alliteration is the last refuse of the desperate to be stylish), but there's some nice lines in the extract I've seen: 'Miss Redmond is aging, and will never marry, and will die smelling of attics.'
but as prose it is pretty overwrought.
Funny though, which is not unimportant.
However he does look like he's smelling his own farts on the cover of the book.
I'm not adverse to giving it a go if I do but my hopes really aren't high. I'm not a massive fan of autobiographies in general and I suspect even more so when people are concealing themselves behind a persona, which I would imagine to be the case from his lyrical outut and what I've seen of it so far,
hahahahah you're allll losers
The lady in Waterstones said they had sold 42, which was unprecedented numbers, said it was like Harry Potter day.
So in short, Moz, bigger than Potter (or similar sized).
Shedloads of commuters buying it at Victoria's whsmiths, they have loads of them on a big display. Read the first page and thought it was going to be struggle but then seemed to get used to his style and am really enjoying it
cannot fucking wait, utterly hilarious, can't believe it's even real.
..."It is an inferno of betrayal that i can bear no more, and i walk out of the court, the human mess of it all now so overcooked and grotesque - as if the subject all along had been discovery of human remains in someone's potting shed, and not simply a chubby drummer chancing his arm". Haha!
i might buy it cos of that
like 50 pages in
best bit so far is the phrase "my birth almost killed my mother, obviously" or the 5 pages listing tv programmes he watched as a child w/ a minimal description for each one
if you open at a random place about 50% of the time he is talking about child death. i did it earlier and he said "Sparks are impossibly good, like an unborn child".
thats so funny
where he talks at length about his model train collection
then I'm not interested.
This book is actually really very good
It is kind of hard to take seriously though, I'm not picturing 60's Manchester as the harsh bleak almost Dickensian like wasteland he describes, just imagining it as some fairly average scenes completely overblown by a young morrissey narrator like some kind of comedy sketch
is the greatest 20th century poet. Fact.
he's fucking boring.
I'd quite like to hear Brian Blessed saying this:
..."It is an inferno of betrayal that i can bear no more, and i walk out of the court, the human mess of it all now so overcooked and grotesque - as if the subject all along had been discovery of human remains in someone's potting shed, and not simply a chubby drummer chancing his arm".
this is killing me, need to get this
Any advance on £4.49 before I go and buy it?
was very funny but equally quite sad. I loved how he used his own song titles and lyrics through out, anyone else it would be ridiculous but for Morrissey it's fine. Only part I didn't really enjoy was him talking about the court case as it really dragged on but I understand why as essentially it was him putting that time in his life (and I guess the Smiths) to bed once and for all.
If you don't like Morrissey you will fucking hate it.
he repeated things a lot there, and it got a bit tedious. But other than that I really enjoyed it.
and saw your pro pic.
for this reaction alone
and a conclusion that doesn't even follow from the false premises.
would not read again
because those aren't even the lyrics that she so claims to have worshiped.
I think Morrissey's the real bad guy here.
Steven Patrick Morrissey has written some beautiful lyrics for songs which helped define a generation. He has also written a terrible book. Contrary to the opinions of some of the other reviewers here this is a not a well -written book, it is a very,very badly written book. In fact it is so badly written I wonder if Penguin submitted the text to any editorial process whatsoever.
Stylistically hackneyed, incoherent and self-contradictory, it beggars belief that the author of this turgid dross has the pretension to consider his adolescent musings to be worthy of the name of literature, let alone of being printed as a Penguin Classic.
Wilde, it seems is not on Mr Morrisseys' side and in this work, his 'Dorian Gray', he unwittingly paints his own self-portrait as a sneering, ungrateful, contemptuous misanthrope, a borderline misogynist, and one of the worlds' crashing bores. A particularly unpleasant detail is the way he spitefully allows himself to libel the (he must presume) safely dead John Peel and Tony Wilson.
A travesty , a tragedy and a nasty piece of overweening narcissism.
I suspect the 'last minute content dispute' was him saying it had to be his unedited text or nothing...
The last minute dispute came well after the latest date they could have printed in time for a 17 October release. The book was almost certainly signed off, printed and bound by then.
I suspect the dispute was either a ploy or a marketing/distribution disagreement.
Still would be surprised if Morrissey let anyone edit the thing though...
I guess it's just about possible the cover wasn't done, but it'd be tight. If it was a content dispute, it could only have been the cover.
I'm 100% with you, though- no way Mozza let anyone touch this. It's what you'd expect from the man and it's fairly clear within seconds of starting it. Penguin were clearly happy to do whatever the fuck he wanted and I don't blame them.
Yeah - I just didn't realise the exact timescale of the delay... I assumed it was a couple of months previous to the release date and delayed the book for a month.
The first 100 pages or so are funny and occasionally well written, all pomp and silliness about the north and the power of pop songs... great stuff.
AND THEN ... 350 pages of vanity, ugliness, tedious point scoring and general shrill whining. Absolutely horrible and bitter.
Particular low points include trying to claim he WOULD have beaten Keane to number 1 but for a technicality.
Sort of the point of reading his book isn't it?
I can't wait to get a copy.
Would've gladly spent a day travelling around bookshops swapping the sleeves between it and this - http://tinyurl.com/lwzb4pl - just to bemuse sadacts who'd have been giddy all day, finally got home from work, put a pot of tea and sat down to tales about Paul Merson liking a bet, or Neil Ruddock kidnapping someones dog.
have a nice day.
Now i've finished i can say what a brilliant book it was. Snarling, self deprecating, bitter, humorous and vein all the things i want and expect from Moz.
after the distraught half naked lad flailed at them on saddleworth moor....I mean that seriously selfish and inhumane and cowardly isnt it?
I just C&V-ed a review off amazon up there ^.