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(and who aren't farmers). Absolute cocks.
I know this family who have an adorable beagle who is SO well behaved and yet they refuse to let him inside. It makes me depressed everytime I visit. It looks so sad :(
Why have a dog if you're not going to cherish it?
its well behaved because they treat it like a dog.
I walked him for about a year. I also looked after their house for a few months where I had to walk him everyday and feed him. He did shit a lot everywhere (but always outside) and that was about it. Never barked, never bit me - just a lovely dog. During walks, other dogs would walk past and he wouldn't go nuts or anything.
The whole 'treat it like a dog' schtick is insensitive even for my standards.
keep the cats holed up at home, don't really let them outside to roam much and remove their reproductive organs. What a life.
Makes me sad every night. He sorta brought it upon himself though by refusing to stop bringing dead/half-dead animals in every night. Still, he's made it to 17 so far so it can't be that bad for him.
You really shouldn't have got a cat if you weren't prepared to deal with normal cat behaviour.
He can get into the garage at night if he wants to sleep/kill stuff there, but he mostly just sleeps all day/evening indoors anyway.
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Or have cat AIDS
If you're not going to treat a dog like one of the family, then don't get one.
just bummed around the house all day with no intention to get a job, I wouldn't let him back in.
my wifes uncles all have 'working' dogs because they go rabbiting, shooting etc. I don't particularly agree with it, and they're not farmers (although some do help out with some jobs) but their dogs are really nice and really well looked after but aren't treated like family/pets. Dogs don't mind being outside, I don't get what the fuss is.
Some people are really cruel to their dogs, irrespective of whether their inside or outside.
seems a bit harsh, I didn't know people did this. We have some friends whose dog seems to live in a cage in their kitchen, only comes out for walks for what I can see. Seems a bit pointless more than anything, it just makes the place smell bad and you have to take them out for a shit all the time.
never go inside or climb on the furniture and stuff when the dog blatantly does. You've been done by a dog, mate.
You don't see wolves pining for penthouse flats, do you?
but loves eating grass, being sick and sometimes eating the sick. All the time, his eyes get weepier and he gets sneezier.
Dogs really don't know what's best for them.
Did they used to be a thing? Or is that just in cartoons?
That'll be why they all have Acme written on them.
they clearly did it, those cheeky buggers
The dog was mental, possibly because he was made to live in a cage. He ran away eventually so he obviously wasn't thrilled with his lot. I assume he either got hit by a truck or went on to lead a successful new life in the woods.
did he walk on down the road and then look back a lot?
what's the point in having the dog?
Dog merchandise and touring
guys, there's a disgusting dog in your actual house
i will come to your house with my dog, and you will sit on a chair in the middle of the living-space as the dog moves around and does what he will. you will neither speak nor act.
as we can see from some of the examples in this thread.
I'm outta here!
but he has like six of them and they are trained as working dogs. He has a massive run for them outside and they have their own indoor dog stable type affair. They're nice but not massively friendly, but they run shitloads.
Not counting goldfish.
Then I thought actually I could probably comfortably stretch to 2 dogs and a cat. And then a tortoise wouldn't be any bother. And actually if you're putting out food for one cat then why not have three?
Then I started thinking about having a llama farm but realised they aren't strictly pets and then I lost my train of thought.
cat, cat, bird
caught in a google & c&p scandal
*shakes fist at pesky Blue Capped Ifrita*
If I had my own cats now I'd only be happy with a pair because my flat isn't very big
If I lived in a big house and had a garden I'd like to have 5-7.
Then a rabbit or something for any children I may end up with to learn about responsibility etc
and their temperance to cats.
and it's fine.
they shit everywhere then you have to pick it up. They are needy, expensive and annoying. They are like kids but they never grow up and become real people.
that last sentence
That's the best thing about dogs
Was thinking about this the other day. When I was younger my neighbours had a parrot. Like a proper red rainforest parrot thing. And even as a kid I used to feel gut-wrenchingly sorry for it that it lived in a cage in a smoke-filled living room of a terraced house, and not the trees of the rainforest.
It escaped and flew out of their house. Everyone came out of their houses to see as they tried getting it back in, panicking and crying etc. Then it flew off. Although it obviously will have gone and died somewhere, you'd think the final (or probably penultimate) days of its life were its best. :') sniff.
but there are colonies of escapee parrots/parakeets in the UK.
the rest is KEEE KEEE KEEEEEE
There's supposedly 5,000 of them. They turn up everywhere. Some mad bloke let some go from a zoo here in the 70s. If they can survive the seasons here they can survive anywhere, I'm sure.
Who don't particularly like animals.
All my dogs have been treated like one of the family. In fact my mum told me that our first dog Sam hardly ever left my side when I was in my crib and was fiercely protective over me.
cute but mildly annoying.
I'm going to be living on my own as of October. I think I might get lonely. I live in a city centre apartment on the second floor above a busy road, no access to the roof or whatever. It's about 36m squared.
I want to get a cat to keep me company, but I've always had cats in the a more country like suburban environment, big back gardens for them to roam through etc. do you think it would be cruel to raise a cat in such a small place and never let it out? I would get a kitten so that it could get used to it, either that or a rescue cat which needs a similar environment. Advice?
all they fucking do is sleep. unlike dogs, they can get all the exercise they need indoors, and they really aren't that sociable with other animals.
They'd almost always take. Can't be for no reason, can it? Territory I reckon.
but an indoor cat will lead a much less stressful life than an outdoor cat. outdoor cats have to constantly get into fights with other cats, they're victim to all kinds of diseases from other nature, and as a result they live, on average, less than half a full life.
and indoor cats can be happier too, but it depends because you have to actually take care of them, which means playing as well as feeding and scooping. pretty much every expert on the subject agrees that indoor cats can be happier, the ones that have lots of toys, and a loving owner, and a nice window to sit in show genuine signs of constant contentment. i have two indoor cats and they sleep half the day, get up and wrestle each other for cat bants for a while, eat, shit and then it's back to sleep. they don't meow or scratch at the door or get pissed off (and you know when a cat is unhappy, trust)
but you should be aware that all this does still depend on the cat. if your apartment is really small and you get a cat with a fuck load of energy that might be a problem. also some cats like having another cat friend, some don't. that's the problem with cats, they're really cool but it's not like a dog where you can look at it at the pound and know what kind of dog it is, cats are hard to read. you only learn about their specific neurotic tendencies after living with them for a bit.
in short i'd say do it, but i'd recommend getting an older cat that's been indoors for its whole life.
I know people who do it and are ok with it. But their cats are always weird, I find. Super friendly or fierce, as if the solitude has cost them their sanity. My cat at my parents' spent about 12 hours of the day outside. Pure white coat but would come back covered in black quite often, cos she must have been going under cars n dat. Would also find the guts of poor little animals on the doorstep that she'd got hold of, which wasn't good.
But to starve a cat of that would be a bit cruel I think. They're killing machines. They need more stimulation than a bit of string.
She's a rescue cat from the RSPCA. She's older, so a bit more docile (read : lazy), and she's got no inclination to go out. She sleeps most of the time, but shows affection when I get in from work.
Most of the flat is on the first floor, and there are steps going down to the ground floor where the flat is. If she wanted to go out, she'd be hanging around by the door, but she never goes downstairs. We've spoken to the vet about whether it's cruel to keep her in, and he says that it's not, and that she's a very happy cat. I'll take the word of a vetinary professional on animal cruelty :)
"where the front door is" more like. duh.
I knew someone who had a young, energetic cat in a fourth floor flat and it spent most of it's time meowing at birds out of the window or bounding around in a way that made it seem slightly unhinged.
She purrs a lot, and gives out an occasional prrrrp when she's jumping onto a surface, but no proper meows.
loving like dogs, small and easy to keep. They're ace, and cute...
And kept them inside. Up until the current one this has made perfect sense as they've all been soft as hell. However, the newest addition is absolutely batshit, can be nice, but very much shows off his working-dog heritage. Housing him outside would be difficult however it'd be of benefit to him, so really where they are best kept can very much depend on their nature.
there's no right or wrong answer, there are far too many factors involved to say whether a dog's better inside or out.
personally, were it my call, i'd stick them in the back garden during the day if i'm in, put them in the kitchen at night and when i'm out. keep them away from the bedrooms and living rooms because you don't want hairs all over your shit. having said that, for some, pets and food in the same room would be a no-no.
for me, a bigger issue would be people who talk to their animals. no point.
Then I would have lost some of the best conversations of my life. Dogs, such great listeners.
when people cut the ends of the dogs tail and ears off
FOR NO FUCKING REASON OTHER THAN THEY LOOK MEANER!!!
completely unnecessary and cruel to the animal FFS
working dogs e.g. spaniels, labradors have their tails docked so as to prevent them cutting/hurting/generally entangling them in the undergrowth when they're hacking about looking for pheasants etc
ridiculous to deprive them of it
you gotta let me fly!
It's lovely seeing them soften as they've got older and started letting the dogs in.
and just to think - if only you gave it a walk once a day and read up on its dietary requirements
another thing: purebreed bulldogs and pugs, organs all squashed up and can't breathe - already having problems because of their squashed up faces :((((((
big hoohah about the crufts-winning Dalmatian having brown spots and being not entirely purebred - turns out that this crossbreeding corrects a heart defect common to all other Dalmatians
mongrel owner 4life (he's curled up next to me, in fact. best dog)
As my family's eldest dog has just been put to sleep today. He was 16, and hadn't been well for a few months. We're gutted; he was an ex-guide dog, who we walked as a puppy and then got back when he didn't pass the training. I've never heard him bark, never known him do anything wrong, just an absolutely lovely pet.