I've only been to a few games this season but every time Danny Rose got very visibly frustrated at everyone else in the team around 75 minutes. He was a step ahead of everyone else
Played some beautiful stuff at times and weathered Newcastle's assaults reasonably well. Nice to see Garcia have a decent game, although you wonder how well he'd do against a team fielding more than 1 central midfielder. Silva is right back on top of his game currently, I really hope with the reduced number of games we're playing this season we can keep him there.
And the second goal was a classic one of conceding from a counter after throwing everyone forward in search of an equaliser.
I wouldn't read into it too much; it just sounds like a lot of possession and pressure without any end product, as per usual this season, but with some shitty officiating at the end. God I wish SEB was as good as he used to be - with a striker like him at his peak we'd be walking this division, but as it is it's squandered chance after squandered chance.
Having taken 5 points from 10 home games so far, and scored 3 goals at home in the league all season, we've scored 3 so far this afternoon to lead Rochdale 3-2 late on. Much needed home win on the cards...
was ashley young ever actually consistently good? he's had three of his contracted One Good Games A Month in a row now, be useful if this was his true level and he was actually a competent footballer.
played some lovely stuff today united, rooney and rvp having a personal battle to see who could miss more solid chances but a centre mid of carrick and cleverley looks like it could be a thing. ofc fergie decides to scare the living shit out of the back four by replacing them with giggs and scholes for the last half hour but you can't have everything.
i had city and united -2, was under the impression that you got your stake returned if it finished as a draw after the handicap. the site's got it down as losing though.
still, a very good point and the only team around us that gained was rotherham. plus zavon hines is back and kyel reid's on his way. good week really. playing saturday tuesday until the end of january now
He said something to the effect of 'we're only X points of 2nd, so we're not doing too badly'. Fair play to the media for twisting it to make him look like an arse :-D
Carrick and Cleverly were superb. With Shinji and Anderson coming back soon the middle looks in ok shape going into the new year. No need to bad mouth Giggs or Scholes we still looked dangerous even after they came on though I'll concede that we ceded some dominance and possession to Sunderland particularly after Giggs introduction.
Duncan Edwards bombing up the right side gives us a nice alternative to Rafa as well. Thought he was very, very good today.
Playing teams like Villa should really make Rodgers rethink his philosophy. While they aren't that good (and Villa really, really aren't good) they had two shots on target in the first half and they both went in, whereas we spent the match seeing how many passes we could string together in front of the 18 yard box without ever actually getting into it.
Another two today. I think that's 20 in 18 now. Shame we chucked a two nil lead away to draw 2-2. Still, we're do far better than I would ever imagined.
Apparently, a Newcastle fan decided to deck himself out in Albanian flags today (them being deadly enemies of the Serbs over the Kosovan war, etc) and spent the afternoon abusing Aleks Kolarov (a Serb) from his seat (i guess as a result of the recent goings-on with the England U21s).
Apparently, Kolarov said something in Serbian to him and has been reported to the police by the fan for racist behaviour, despite the fact that Albanian isn't a race, the guy he allegedly abused doesn't speak Serbian, isn't even Albanian, and obviously went to the game specifically to cause trouble.
I realised today that if we don't beat Fulham next week I'll have seen over a dozen home league games in 2012 and not a singel victory. I know it must be really, really funny for everyone else but :(
Against an Ipswich side in good form under McCarthy.
Jerome Thomas scored, sounds like he's been immense lately.
3 home wins in a row, and 4 out of 5 going into the chelsea game. Really hope they can pick up some knocks and/or get taken to 120 minutes - not that I think a lot of their better players would be likely to play anyway
4 points off play-offs, and 4 tricky ties before January. Unless we totally capitulate in those we should make what I'd hoped for - to be within 6/7 points going into the January transfer window, and then hopefully we can see what our new owners are made of
but as little as it means theyve passed the proper persons thing, and the day after they came in we got two outstanding loan players
not expecting miracles, or particularly colossal signings, but may be 2 or 3 in january just to give us more depth, to be enticed by the kind of wages we've never paid under Bates - if we're within touching distance of 6th, that might be enough to have us finish there or thereabouts.
feel free to bookmark this and laugh when we're languishing in the blue square north in 2017
Nice to see Vertonghen grab a goal, though. Sounds like he's had a very disappointing season thus far. A much better player than his first six months in England might suggest.
Bit of a kind run of games, quite obviously. Will have to improve their away form (lost 3 of the last 4), and find some bottle for their remaining games against the bigger clubs. Even then, i'd still fancy Chelsea to finish at least 10 points ahead of them, and Arsenal tend to let them get a bit carried away before merking them for 4th over the last couple of months.
I think Spurs are looking decent for fourth. They've been picking up enough points despite missing some of their starrier players for stretches (Kaboul, Bale, Parker, Assou-Ethingy, Dembele) so they're arguably more likely to kick on from here rather than decline.
Potentially it's exciting. We can only play better, and with big players and a January transfer window still to come we might, just might, kick on and actually do something. Probably not though, it's Spurs eh?
(Obviously losing Modric was never going to be a good thing)
By big players, I think he means that Kaboul, Parker and BAE have all missed the season so far and that Adebayor and Dembele missed a large chunk.
Gallas has been inept but has started most games.
I'll take your word for him being injured and not just dropped, as most of the press seemed to think.
Guess it would be pretty embarrassing for frugal Spurs to admit their move for the player they obliterated their wage ceiling for hasn't really worked out.
probably the most harrowing thing about it was that Maicon barely broke into a trot the entire period he was on the pitch- he still got past him every single time. The guy's clearly a centre back and Bale should be filling the left back role when BAE is injured- but of course he doesn't because he's far too important.
starring BOLTON VERSUS CHARLTON
see what happens when the OP doesn't set an agenda? the rats will play
ok now this one HAS to win
so.......how are City playing?
Listening to Toon City whilst trying to find a stream whilst doing a bit of website work
not got the heart or mind to set agendas.
great ball from toure for the goal
city passing really well at the minute
1-0 down to Hull
Looking like it'll be 6 without a win. The heady days of September/October seem a long time ago now.
Sounds like Man City are a bit fortunate to be two goals ahead.
Just got 75/1 on Newcastle, and 20/1 on the draw. Chucked £2 & £5 on them, respecively. Should be my weekend beers sorted.
City have really impressed me on the ball today
Slick
this is a good game innit
for tha neutral
only just switched newcy - city on. good game? i see perch is playing CM
rafael and evans injured for Man Utd. really hope they aren't serious injuries. should survive without them today i guess, but YOU NEVER KNOW!
smalling and jones IN!
I'm happy about it
no Danny Rose though
bollox
From the little i've seen...
i'd say Danny Rose has probably been Sunderland's best player this season, hasn't he?
Can't see them winning today without him.
yeah definitely
I don't know if we'd won with him anyway but
I've only been to a few games this season but every time Danny Rose got very visibly frustrated at everyone else in the team around 75 minutes. He was a step ahead of everyone else
nice football from City there
patient, lovely lay-off from silva
Good win.
Played some beautiful stuff at times and weathered Newcastle's assaults reasonably well. Nice to see Garcia have a decent game, although you wonder how well he'd do against a team fielding more than 1 central midfielder. Silva is right back on top of his game currently, I really hope with the reduced number of games we're playing this season we can keep him there.
Newcastle's ball into the box is so, so poor.
Don't Newcastle play three in the middle of the park...
with Jonas wide of a front there and Ba and Cisse interchanging between striker and the other wideman?
They did last season at least.
Jonas is injured.
Their central midfield today was Tiote, Anita and Perch. Tiote did his level best but bafflingly got substituted 20 minutes from the end.
Jonas played my good man.
Out wide.
Hah. Awful error
Thought he was talking about Cabaye for some reason- I always get Guiterrez mixed up with Jermaine Jenas when he's referred to as that.
Didn't think Wolves would get anything today anyway
But for fuck's sake, 0-0 at 88mins, lose 2-0, shit cunts.
The penalty was very ropey apparently
According to the radio, Solbakken was having to drag players away from the ref at full time
Yeah, was never a penalty going off the replays - if that's not ball-to-hand then I don't know what is.
And the second goal was a classic one of conceding from a counter after throwing everyone forward in search of an equaliser.
I wouldn't read into it too much; it just sounds like a lot of possession and pressure without any end product, as per usual this season, but with some shitty officiating at the end. God I wish SEB was as good as he used to be - with a striker like him at his peak we'd be walking this division, but as it is it's squandered chance after squandered chance.
2-0 down already
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that is inexcusable from McClean
what a pillock
i read rooney was fired up before the game
must be the reason for him missing two easy chances from just outside the six yard area.
why are Villa too up at Liverpool?
just heard John O'Shea chipped in with a nice assist?
beats an intentional OG, i guess!
:D
if it's not arsenal making me lol it's liverpool
Sounds like Everton and Stoke are trying to out-assault eachother.
The two vilest teams in the Premier League.
:D
ouch
http://www.cadfael.tv/image/src/1355589272516.gif
beautiful
We're winning at home!
Having taken 5 points from 10 home games so far, and scored 3 goals at home in the league all season, we've scored 3 so far this afternoon to lead Rochdale 3-2 late on. Much needed home win on the cards...
south yorkshire superclasico kicking off in half an hour
big, big game for both wednesday and barnsley struggling near the wrong end of the table.
some tasty challenges going in
that one on madine was well off
he's not someone to be messed with either so I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in for some retribution later on
that was a lot closer than it should have been
due to wayward finishing and Scholes & Giggs coming on. really should have been a GD booster.
aston villa fans
was ashley young ever actually consistently good? he's had three of his contracted One Good Games A Month in a row now, be useful if this was his true level and he was actually a competent footballer.
played some lovely stuff today united, rooney and rvp having a personal battle to see who could miss more solid chances but a centre mid of carrick and cleverley looks like it could be a thing. ofc fergie decides to scare the living shit out of the back four by replacing them with giggs and scholes for the last half hour but you can't have everything.
still love john o shea, even bald john o shea.
he was good
lacked an end product sometimes but he was usually our most dangerous player, always lively and gettin good positions.
dont care bout mine bein banished
:):):)
does anyone know owt about asian handicaps?
i had city and united -2, was under the impression that you got your stake returned if it finished as a draw after the handicap. the site's got it down as losing though.
would've taken a draw before the match but i'm gutted with how it transpired
still, a very good point and the only team around us that gained was rotherham. plus zavon hines is back and kyel reid's on his way. good week really. playing saturday tuesday until the end of january now
not literally saturday tuesday though
brendan rogers is obsessed with unawarded 'clear penalties'
every interview, they never are either
might be good if he stopped making excuses and got his team to play some better football
Did he really say he was aiming for 2nd place?
Any other manager and I'd presume he'd answered a leading question too vaguely or sarcastically but with Rodgers you never know.
Not even close from what I saw
He said something to the effect of 'we're only X points of 2nd, so we're not doing too badly'. Fair play to the media for twisting it to make him look like an arse :-D
OK, I'll watch the 8stepstoperfection deathclock
Should be gruesome in all the right ways eh
That Perkins had a blinder against us, wonder if he can do it again
oh he's on the bench
barnsley must have a strong first-choice midfield!!!
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looking forward to Pulis moaning about nasty foreigners again
First 35mins or so United were a different class.
Carrick and Cleverly were superb. With Shinji and Anderson coming back soon the middle looks in ok shape going into the new year. No need to bad mouth Giggs or Scholes we still looked dangerous even after they came on though I'll concede that we ceded some dominance and possession to Sunderland particularly after Giggs introduction.
Duncan Edwards bombing up the right side gives us a nice alternative to Rafa as well. Thought he was very, very good today.
CHRISSY CHRISSY O'GRADY!
Benteke is really, really good
Playing teams like Villa should really make Rodgers rethink his philosophy. While they aren't that good (and Villa really, really aren't good) they had two shots on target in the first half and they both went in, whereas we spent the match seeing how many passes we could string together in front of the 18 yard box without ever actually getting into it.
Incidentally, Downing played quite well.
surprised at how well benteke's doing
when he moved all the belgsperts were saying he's not ready for the premier league yet
Barnsley are playing 2x better with Perkins on
he's a really, really excellent footballer
wednesday are almost laughably bad, although they're defending ok, next week should be ghastly
looking forward to sidibe destroying michael morrison tbh
if last year's games are anything to go by it'l be an absolute shitfest
you mean 'frimpong destroying semedo' dontcha
yeah it's going to be rank
but if that's how you play next week then we should win comfortably
by all accounts, we were as good as bolton today until they decided to bring ngog and petrov on, in one of those 'dose of reality' moments
you have neither ngog nor petrov
let the phony war begin :D
we've played well at times this season and been unlucky
today we were poor and lucky
i'd much rather play poorly and win than play well and lose. i'd fancy us to get a point next week.
semedo's out injured
luckily david prutton has stepped in and done well
Perkins
Agreed on Perkins. He rang rings round us when we played them earlier in the season.
his career history jars almost entirely with the impression i got of him
when he did the same thing to us
like, i flat-out couldn't believe wikipedia when i read up on him later
Yeah, when I saw him playing against us earlier this season
I couldn't believe it was the same David Perkins I remember seeing playing for Morecambe 7 or 8 years ago.
Glenn Murray
Another two today. I think that's 20 in 18 now. Shame we chucked a two nil lead away to draw 2-2. Still, we're do far better than I would ever imagined.
Heard a little whisper last night that...
Steve Coppell's going back to Reading.
* Not from the same guy who told me United were signing Cheik Tiote, or City were sacking Mancini.
:'D
three points. great work to withstand the second half pressure. i'll take that thank you very much!
something about Fellaini occasionally looking Zidane-esque
?
Apparently, a Newcastle fan decided to deck himself out in Albanian flags today (them being deadly enemies of the Serbs over the Kosovan war, etc) and spent the afternoon abusing Aleks Kolarov (a Serb) from his seat (i guess as a result of the recent goings-on with the England U21s).
Apparently, Kolarov said something in Serbian to him and has been reported to the police by the fan for racist behaviour, despite the fact that Albanian isn't a race, the guy he allegedly abused doesn't speak Serbian, isn't even Albanian, and obviously went to the game specifically to cause trouble.
Very, very strange behaviour indeed.
Nice to see Moyes condemning Fellani for the head-butt.
I fear you wouldn't get many managers doing that.
He's gone up in my estimation after that
Fergie would have said that Shawcross provoked him and Wenger would have just denied seeing it
i for one enjoy the antics of Liverpool Football Club
I respectfully disagree
I realised today that if we don't beat Fulham next week I'll have seen over a dozen home league games in 2012 and not a singel victory. I know it must be really, really funny for everyone else but :(
Leeds got a convincing win today
Against an Ipswich side in good form under McCarthy.
Jerome Thomas scored, sounds like he's been immense lately.
3 home wins in a row, and 4 out of 5 going into the chelsea game. Really hope they can pick up some knocks and/or get taken to 120 minutes - not that I think a lot of their better players would be likely to play anyway
4 points off play-offs, and 4 tricky ties before January. Unless we totally capitulate in those we should make what I'd hoped for - to be within 6/7 points going into the January transfer window, and then hopefully we can see what our new owners are made of
there are rumours going round that Leeds' new owners are a bit...
erm...Munto Finance.
may be
but as little as it means theyve passed the proper persons thing, and the day after they came in we got two outstanding loan players
not expecting miracles, or particularly colossal signings, but may be 2 or 3 in january just to give us more depth, to be enticed by the kind of wages we've never paid under Bates - if we're within touching distance of 6th, that might be enough to have us finish there or thereabouts.
feel free to bookmark this and laugh when we're languishing in the blue square north in 2017
Benteke is a monster
Allen trying to tackle him looked like a gnat
Taraabt is a fruitcake and Redknapp enjoyed his flavour today
SEVENTH.
2ND LONGEST UNBEATEN RUN IN EUROPE AFTER BARCA.
SEVENTH.
The Corinthians coach looks a bit of an animal.
:(
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/world-football-ndlovu-fighting-life-crash-killed-brother-093318493.html
tragic news
hope he pulls through. very good player for coventry and sheffield united from what I remember.
Awful news :(
Hope he pulls through. Must have been a really awful crash, that photo, fuck.
Just remembered his cracking story about Tony Yeboah sexual revenge as well. http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/2008/01/24/peter-ndlovu-reveals-africa-cup-of-nations-scandal/
Sounds like he's passed away too.
Really feel for their parents.
nah not according to 5live, last report sounded positive.
?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20747164
Just heard that he's died.
:( What a horrid thing. RIP Peter Ndlovu.
Ah apparently this isn't true.
BBC reporter in South Africa jumped the gun without checking facts. Twitter. Sorry everyone.
Very end to end-y this game
It's like handball.
Good start to the day
Good to see Nevin give it the "d-didn't want the grapes as much as the other guy did anyway" straight away
what?
Can we all take a moment to laugh at Chelsea?
Cheers.
Why?
Second best team in the world isn't something to sniff at.
gonna struggle with Cahill being banned from the next world club championship game, could miss the semis.
Quite an exciting game, that.
The last 15 minutes, anyway. (thats all I saw)
Spurs are really poor, aren't they.
Nice to see Vertonghen grab a goal, though. Sounds like he's had a very disappointing season thus far. A much better player than his first six months in England might suggest.
Just coming into a bit of form, top 3 finish for Spurs looking likely.
http://www.flashscores.co.uk/standings/t88zoFDC/2wDJRkib/#form;overall
Nah.
Bit of a kind run of games, quite obviously. Will have to improve their away form (lost 3 of the last 4), and find some bottle for their remaining games against the bigger clubs. Even then, i'd still fancy Chelsea to finish at least 10 points ahead of them, and Arsenal tend to let them get a bit carried away before merking them for 4th over the last couple of months.
As fun as winding up Spurs fans must be...
I think Spurs are looking decent for fourth. They've been picking up enough points despite missing some of their starrier players for stretches (Kaboul, Bale, Parker, Assou-Ethingy, Dembele) so they're arguably more likely to kick on from here rather than decline.
What's the most amount of games a side's lost in finishing 4th?
I think it's probably 15 - Chelsea in 1998
:D
I'll tell you in April
I think that a lot will depend on how teams are affected by the ACoN,
especially as winter deepens and injuries start to mount up.
If I remember correctly, Spurs aren't going to lose anyone now that Adebayor has retired.
Assou-Ekotto is not one of their better players.
Although compared to Kyle Naughton, he is pretty good.
BAE
is surprisingly skilful + calm when you seem him play in person
but hardly a world class left back
Just seen the Fellaini incidents in full.
Has to be a 6-game ban MINIMUM, surely.
has he been sent off this season already? i think he has
if so should probably be 9 (4+5 for second and third red cards for foul play/dangerous behaviour whatever). think it will be 3 though.
don't think so
it's great to see you 2 working together again though
actually does that rule exist/still exist?
where its 3 matches, then 4, then 5 etc for consecutive reds?
yeah
andrew davies got 3 last season
3 red cards that is
a 3, 4 and 5 game ban that is
he's not really that type of player though
Didn't...
Kompany get a 4-game ban for nearly tackling Nani last season?
MOTD tonight'll be must see TV then
West Brom v Ham should come with a health warning
Dire game.
At least the first 45 minutes I watched anyway.
Second half was better.
Not by much, mind.
It was what know-nothing, conventional wisdom-spouting armchair fans think
an Allardyce team plays like every week. They were right this time though.
The fact that Spurs are joint 3rd after playing so poorly so the vast majority of this season is quite astonishing.
Potentially it's exciting. We can only play better, and with big players and a January transfer window still to come we might, just might, kick on and actually do something. Probably not though, it's Spurs eh?
Can't be the only one that finds it weird how prevalent
the view that Tottenham struggled in the transfer window and need to limp through to January to desperately get some big names in has become.
Lloris, Dembele, Vertonghen, Sigurdsson, Dempsey and Adebayor is a pretty cocking sensational transfer window in the real world.
Sorry, that wasn't directed at you necessarily, er, Und.
Who said Spurs struggled in the transfer window?
(Obviously losing Modric was never going to be a good thing)
By big players, I think he means that Kaboul, Parker and BAE have all missed the season so far and that Adebayor and Dembele missed a large chunk.
Gallas has been inept but has started most games.
You must have missed the bit where I said it wasn't directed at what he said
It's right up there
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Nice house
Not going to lie - I was pretty proud of it, before I pushed post
Perfectly symmetrical, commandingly thick.
It looks a bit bung now though
But who does think it?
It's not a view I have come across, let alone found prevalent.
It's Sunday
I chuck my strawmen out around this time so I don't HAVE to defend them.
Let's just say it's a vibe that's out there
Has Adebayor really 'missed a large chunk'...
or has he just been his usually shite self?
The Internet says he missed two weeks with a back injury, and a week with a tight hamstring.
And another through suspension
He hasn't been match fit for most of the season,
though he made the odd appearance and was sub during the early part of the season.
Hmmmm.
I'll take your word for him being injured and not just dropped, as most of the press seemed to think.
Guess it would be pretty embarrassing for frugal Spurs to admit their move for the player they obliterated their wage ceiling for hasn't really worked out.
Hasn't been fit
still isn't fit (and probably injured again)
still don't like him
And of those 6 summer signings only half (Lloris, Dembele, Vertonghen) have looked good.
Vertonghen's had a terrible time at full-back, hasnt he?
Hard a little whisper that he got his botty handed to him on a plate by Maicon.
Has he improved since moving to centre-half (assuming he has)?
He was caned by Maicon
probably the most harrowing thing about it was that Maicon barely broke into a trot the entire period he was on the pitch- he still got past him every single time. The guy's clearly a centre back and Bale should be filling the left back role when BAE is injured- but of course he doesn't because he's far too important.
Vertonghen's been very very good and, on the whole, has filled in at left back without any problems.
Cheers.
No need to get so defensive, mate.
No-one's saying he's a bad player, just he's no left-back.
I've caught bits of about four Spurs games, and he's looked just about the most immobile defender i've ever seen.
As i said above, though, overall, he's a good player, and at centre-half, he'll probably do very well.
Jose, sacked.
No wai.
MESSI!!!90!!
barca breeze past atletico.
4-1, another 2 for Messi. Up to 90 in the calendar year
they're looking better than ever this season, they've barely broken a sweat tonight