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this chap is amusing me no end
He's second to Osborne
It's a tough competition between those three though.
what a cocksucker. hate him so much. rally hope he comes to a very messy political end. hopefully involving some sort of failed coup to oust David Cameron in the run up to an impending election defeat, followed by a public shaming and sacking, and then embarassing constituency defeat.
is leaving the obvious insensitivity of it all aside, then how happy is a nice yacht likely to really make even ardent monarchists? I mean, beyond thinking "that's a bloody good yacht, she really deserves that", how much delight is it really likely to sow?
Not in the sense that his politics differ from mine, but he regularly makes comments on policy, procedure or curriculum which are just factually wrong. Reassuring.
So the slow recovery (probably recession again as of this week) had nothing to do with the Royal Wedding afterall then?
There's no way the rest of the government are going to go for it. There are a lot of things but not complete idiots. The PR would be disastrous. It'd pretty much be an open goal for Labour, and perhaps even the Lib-Dems too.
Must try harder.
...when you leave an open goal for the taking.
I know historically the Queen has had a yacht, but if you were to give her one gift from the taxpayer, are you saying a yacht is definitely the very best thing?
he's happy to play the idiot in the interests of the wider cause, right?
ergo, what is the bad news they're trying to deflect media and sensible thinkers away from
That he's one of those 'oh, I just speak as I find' people who consider that the highest possible endorsement of their character.
Jubilee year is going to be another chance for everyone to verbally lynchmob anyone who dares to have a Republican thought.
I <3 EVERYONE
As I said last night. The Royal Family won't accept a new yacht - even they're not crass and stupid enough to think that it's a good idea.
the rest, probably not
they'll do anything for a quiet life. Rejecting a state gift would cause a few headlines, and possibly provoke all the MNER MNER THE QUEEN SELFISH stuff over again. Last thing they'll be wanting.
Badly worded, sorry.
I have literally no idea what you're talking about.
a) When was the "Mner mner the Queen selfish" stuff the first time?
b) How would it be more selfish to refuse than to accept a £60 million yacht when the economy is fucked.
c) I suspect these things are done far more discretely anyway, like how you rarely find out who turns down MBEs, CBEs etc. If the Royal Family are offered the yacht and don't accept it'll be done in private and, leaks aside, will be unlikely to reach the newspapers.
a) after Diana's death *(though obviously the contexts are different)
b) it wouldn't. I'm not posting my own point of view. I'm just imagining what the headlines would be, and I'm pretty sure that the redtops would brand her and the rest 'selfish' or 'disconnected' or some similar nonsense.
c) Good point actually
after the Royal Wedding, the RF is probably more popular than it's been for a long while. They'll want to retain that popularity, and doing something which the tabloids might pick up on negatively is a silly, silly move right now. It isn't like Diana's death, I was just pointing out how minor Royal errors can throw their popularity out of the window very quickly.
Anyway, theguywith... has made a v decent point, in that it would probably be kept out of the press anyway.
I can't see how turning down a very expensive 'gift' from the taxpayer could be spun badly by the press in this time of austerity.
Can't even get a good Tory cunt to support us
slimy reptile eventually defeated by a nonentity- Gove
maverick never truly accepted by party- Louise Mensch or Priti Patel
scandal victim- almost certainly Osborne
At the moment I really can't see it but no-one could see it with Widdecombe either...
She had a big turnaround because she was seen as a fierce battleaxe and managed to turn herself into a kind of nation's maiden aunt, but Pickles is already seen as an amiable cheeky chap kind. I could see him moving into Hamilton style light celebrity without any great change.
... get a clue.
But Widdecombe was seen as fierce by everyone, inside the Conservatives and out, whereas Pickles is primarily disliked by people who would automatically hate him because of his party, whatever he was like.
An awful lot of them think he has no grasp of his brief and is a really nasty piece of work.
affected by his cuts.
Beyond the cuts themselves, his attitude towards local government is ultra-confrontational and gets people's backs up.
didn't he once say that people had a human right to weekly bin collections?
little to say to that really.
'leftwing councils b shit', then yes, my area is run by a Tory council and has the highest recycling rate in the UK, so they're doing a good job there. But claiming that weekly bin collections are a 'human right' is patently bizarre by any standards.
and then attack the councils for whichever cuts they make.
It's more to do with policy - especially on the governance and planning side.
I almost have time for Pickles, since even he recognises that Barnet council is an absolute joke and is harming it's own residents.
Mind you... he hasn't bothered to actually DO anything about it and enforce some good governance or give the electorate the power to remove that corrupt bunch of c*nts.
y'know, that all three parties suddenly agreed was so important at a national level, but for some reason don't believe is at all important at a local level - despite the government believing in power being with the electorate rather than centralised.
he's pretty much only liked by his own party. I don't know anyone who hates Tories on principle, aside from maybe marckee, but I do know a lot of 'neutrals' who think he's a little-Englander fool.
And you don't know me.
if you think that Pickles is already seen as an amiable cheeky chap kind.
One of the safest seats. It would be an even bigger upset than Potillo / Twigg if he was ever defeated.
And I think if Osborne was going to be brought down by scandal, it would have happened by now.
glad we're singing from the same hymn sheet
for letting people find out the costs.
because the public have no right to know how much things their taxes are going on actually cost. Great stuff.
should probably be deleted
but build them a wing at a museum or something then. Or another fancy footbridge. Then it's a mutually beneficial gift.
If it was a new building or monument that people could visit or use I might feel differently.
Besides, it's one thing giving the Royal Family dispensation and another to give it to Michael Fucking Gove.
I think a tree planted in every school would be a smart PR move all round - it wouldn't be too expensive and it'd please the Royalists, please the environmentalists and probably please the schools and create nice photo opportunities for every local paper. That'd definitely be a good political move at least.
There's a big Jubilee fields things happening, where councils are being able to protect green spaces in perpetuity by having them declared as Jubilee playing fields.
to allow themselves to sell off land for development to cover budget deficits.
A fucking yacht :')
'Well I never, a massive cock on YouTube. I didn't think it was allowed'.
He's disconnected to the point of autism.
kill them all
kill them with fire
...over what is essentially a well-intentioned, but really quite daft, suggestion.
and be met with the collective disdain of Drowned in Sound.