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think tank advises abandoning the north of England

guntrip [Edit] [Delete] 42 replies 10:17, 13 August '08

almost.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7556937.stm

i'm not entirely sure how 'regeneration' policies in London have been anymore successful, and the notion of 1m people moving to London is pretty funny. that would likely give the city the highest population it's ever had, and it's not like there aren't housing issues already.

anyone know how i can get a job with a think tank? i'm pretty good at coming up with silly ideas.

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  • haha, love it

    "So, we've got these poorer areas... what can we do?"
    "What makes them poor?"
    "Well... they're full of poor people"

    "... how about we make all the poor people move away? Then it won't be a poor area, right?"

    "GENIUS!"

    JustJay | 13 Aug '08, 10:19 | X
    • isn't that how

      regeneration works anyway?

      guntrip @JustJay | 13 Aug '08, 10:20 | X
      • pretty much

        unfortunately

        Smee @guntrip | 13 Aug '08, 10:24 | X
    • that reminds me of the Onion

      article.

      US Poor halved by reclassification of the term.

      locustscomeinspring @JustJay | 13 Aug '08, 12:57 | X
  • the should move to scotland

    good to see that the depravity stops at the border

    justanothersheeldz | 13 Aug '08, 10:19 | X
  • but if they build enough

    luxury apartments for everyone to live in they'll stop being luxury and just become standard and then what would property developers do?!?

    guntrip @georgiabeth | 13 Aug '08, 10:24 | X
    • only because idiots

      with City jobs seemed to happy to pay £250,000 for a 1 bed freehold up until about 3 weeks ago.

      guntrip @georgiabeth | 13 Aug '08, 10:26 | X
      • WITH BALCONIES!!!!

        guntrip @guntrip | 13 Aug '08, 10:26 | X
        • Why not expand this theory?

          There are plenty of poor Africans whose home land cannot match their aspirations.

          Conclusion: they should all move to the UK and other rich nations.

          keiths_tele @georgiabeth | 13 Aug '08, 13:20 | X
        • I love how the Tories always find new ways to shoot themselves in the foot like this.

          Oh dear. It was pretty funny to hear about on the Today programme.

          TheoGB | 13 Aug '08, 10:21 | X
          • Perception is 9/10ths of the... something

            JustJay @ClicheGuevara | 13 Aug '08, 10:25 | X
            • also

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Exchange

              Policy Exchange is a British think tank based in London. The Daily Telegraph has described it as "the largest, but also the most influential think tank on the right"., whereas the Guardian has called it 'hard-right' and neo-conservative, and the New Statesman described as David Cameron's 'favourite think tank'.

              tee hee

              guntrip @JustJay | 13 Aug '08, 10:27 | X
          • No it's not but it's Cameron's favourite think tank

            so naturally it becomes 'Tories hate the North'.

            'Like this' was a point about how Labour would have been able to brush it under the carpet.

            TheoGB @ClicheGuevara | 13 Aug '08, 10:28 | X
            • ^ took the bait

              justanothersheeldz @ClicheGuevara | 13 Aug '08, 10:38 | X
              • everyone

                CG LIKES BAIT!

                justanothersheeldz @ClicheGuevara | 13 Aug '08, 10:43 | X
              • I totally got you.

                Sorry.

                TheoGB @ClicheGuevara | 13 Aug '08, 10:45 | X
              • bradford has been adandoned

                they knocked down half the town center and can't afford to put anything in its place.

                Being in a think tank is more than silly ideas, you have to point out the obvious as well.

                Milo_Myage | 13 Aug '08, 10:22 | X
                • did they stop because of the CREDIT CRUNCH??

                  i found out a few days ago that two proposed skyscrapers in leeds (skyscrapers in leeds!!! amazing) have been cancelled because of it.

                  guntrip @Milo_Myage | 13 Aug '08, 10:23 | X
                  • i think

                    they're having trouble finding retailers to fill the planned units. It's just another part of Bradford and its quest to have the strangest center of any city. Its not unusual to have 2 of the same shop in one large city but Bradford has 2 gamestations and 2 GAMEs who are owned by the same company, who needs 4 stores in 1 city?

                    There was a plan to put a lake in the middle of bradford, i hope that gets done bradford needs another giant public toilet

                    Milo_Myage @guntrip | 13 Aug '08, 10:31 | X
                    • It's a real shame.

                      Anyone get the bus from the East side into the city sees a huge rubble scape where a shopping centre has been promised.

                      Still, at least it isn't in the bad lands around Valley Parade and Forster Sq.

                      keiths_tele @Milo_Myage | 13 Aug '08, 13:24 | X
              • ellmayo

                that reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer causes the whole town to become a rubbish tip so they move a few miles down the road

                it's completely, completely barmy. Manchester was an economically fucked hellhole as recently as fifteen minutes ago, and now, though it may have its fair share of pillocks, it's fairly prosperous in it's own way, Leeds too. Liverpool's certainly got the civic pride to attract investment, Bradford's got its, well, Bradford could advertise itself as being 'near Leeds', and Sunderland is attracting a whole load of Irish investment because of the football club (i'm not even kidding)

                granted, those three cities are pretty shit at the mo but all it needs is investment and enterprise and the 'right' regeneration policies (and yes, you need economic regeneration alongside neighbourhood regeneration, people often don't realise this, they think you can just build shiny houses and place becomes nice place) and they'll become okay places in time

                this report is typical of right-wing thinking on planning and regeneration, in that there's some kind of weird survivalist logic and yes, if this were after a nuclear holocaust or something, then abandoning the horrible cities might be logical, but, but, it's just fucking stupid! and given the housing crisis in the south-east and the lack of space to build anything, flood it EVEN MORE?

                wtf

                brusma | 13 Aug '08, 10:23 | X
                • oh, and if CG comes on to defend this

                  he loses 50 humanity points

                  brusma @brusma | 13 Aug '08, 10:24 | X
                • I think Policy Exchange want people there

                  to prop up their buy-to-lets and kick start their housing market.

                  keiths_tele @brusma | 13 Aug '08, 13:26 | X
              • Well it's fairly obvious

                that Cambridgeshire WILL be the economic powerhouse of the 21st (and 22nd -28th inclusive) Century, but I don't know why we have to have Oxford and fucking London lumped in with us.

                And it'll be a cold day in hell before I let the Northerners move in.

                thewarn | 13 Aug '08, 10:27 | X
                • hello!

                  commandercool @thewarn | 13 Aug '08, 10:34 | X
                  • sorry, i mean

                    'ey up!

                    commandercool @commandercool | 13 Aug '08, 10:36 | X
              • this bit makes sense

                'Money currently being pumped into renewal projects and back-to-work schemes should instead be given directly to councils, according to local wage levels, to spend on regeneration measures, it added.'

                ex_cynic | 13 Aug '08, 10:34 | X
              • Anyone know

                what time the Megabus leaves Manchester for Cambridge today?

                gowman | 13 Aug '08, 10:47 | X
              • So this thinktank

                is only echoing what any Northerner not yet old enough to own a flatclap already knows then?

                DanielKelly | 13 Aug '08, 10:51 | X
                • Don't forget the whippet.

                  We all have whippets up 'ere y'know?

                  gowman @DanielKelly | 13 Aug '08, 10:52 | X
              • The answer is even simpler than that

                Shift England's border south by a few hundred miles and give them all to Scotland.

                Grant Scotland their independence.

                Go out on the lawn and sip some Pimms.

                Lucien | 13 Aug '08, 11:20 | X
                • what makes London so much more appealing?

                  I don't get it.

                  But then again, i don't get the appeal of any city, I only live in cities because that's where the work is.

                  It may actually be more appealing to move to London now though as petrol gets more expensive, London is the only city in the UK where you can honestly get by without a car.

                  having lived in Leeds and worked in many places around there, I have to say that I prefer the north. But that's north-east, not north-west.

                  Yorkshire folk and geordies >>>>> Mancs + scousers

                  drummerboi @Lucien | 13 Aug '08, 12:47 | X
                • :0

                  finchleydisco @Lucien | 13 Aug '08, 13:17 | X
              • Are you gay guevara?

                keiths_tele | 13 Aug '08, 13:19 | X
              • i think you need more than

                'good at playing SimCity' to get a job with a think tank...

                seeingotherpeople | 13 Aug '08, 13:38 | X
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