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and you say southend is devoid of things to do..
Because looking at photographs of a bunch of fucking gash bands is going to be really interesting.
Sorry, but The Horrors are one of the worst bands of all time. Neil's Children are just crap.
Examples of a pair of bands who are expected to be huge based solely on their image. They tend to get nowhere. Look at Selfish Cunt. It serves them right for writing terrible music.
But if you want to take it that way, fine.
Question: How the hell did they get Chris Cunningham to do their video?
thank fuck! :D
When your local music scene consists of thewarn and his guitar, then you know you're in trouble.
Neil's Children had their straighteners cranked up to 'volcano heat' when we supported them. And their manager laid out all their carefully ripped punky shirts on hangers on a rail! They were cool though...
and laughed at for having silly hair?
They would where i'm from.
But i quite like them
if you look like that in a band, you have to maintain that image constantly.
If he popped down to the newsagents for some sugar on a Sunday morning, he'd have to do his big gay hair, his pathetic make-up and generally gay appearance, or people would look and say 'haha, you're that guy from that band. Why don't you look like a faggot all the time?'.
it's part of their band thing. they don't have to carry their guitars everywhere, do they?
They are dressing up like some sort of pantomime. A cherade, so to speak.
Out of costume, they're seen for what they really are. Posh boys from West London who can play guitar badly, with WELL COOL HAIRCUTS. Nothing more.
of course it's a charade, it's MUSIC.
it's an ESCAPE.
christ on a bike.
Aren't you one of the people that shouts at me when I call people like The Subways 'fun'?
All I'm saying is, they're ABSOLUTE style over substance. Nothing more.
Not only would the NME not care about them, you lot wouldn't be sticking up for them if they were all fat and old.
i just call them fucking shit.
you can do so much better.
The main point i made about the Horrors is that they're an okay band that sound like lots of other ugly unfashionable garage bands only they've bizarrely got a fanbase where those bands don't because they've got their style.
I stick up for them because they have some decent songs and have genuinely good influences that go beyond bands from the last 15 years.
I don't think anyone is sticking up for them. I personally think they're shit.
I just disagree that there's anything wrong with having an overblown stage persona that is seperate from their everyday life.
If you read autobiographies of musicians you will find that the difficulty that arises from having to lead two seperate lives and maintaining a rockstar persona is a recurring theme. It's an interesting topic though.
a theatrical element to rock n roll though. it's not a bad thing and it doesn't mean you have to live it 24/7.
Also what you saying about west London? Have you ever been there?
Dressing up like fannies is all well and good, as long as you've got the music to back it up. Comparing the Beatles and Bowie to the Horrors, despite being disgraceful in itself is unfair. Their music was so good, they could do what they like.
The Beatles had already made it any way. They'd already been spotted. If the Horrors dressed like Arctic Monkies, no-one would have 'spotted them'.
what does that have to do with them "having to maintain their image constantly"?
Their music is terrible.
However, their image IS what gets naive 'cool people' to like them.
Jesus Christ, this is difficult.
your original point was
"if you look like that in a band, you have to maintain that image constantly."
quality of their music aside, you've never said why this is the case.
Nothing I've actually said is nonsensical, you're just trying to be condescending to make me look silly.
Aside from that, my point is:
These people have to be in costume to have any appeal. When they are out of it, they're nobodies. The only attraction to them is their outfits. Therefore, when they don't even have them on, they don't have anything (especially not talent) at all to offer. They're like Power Rangers. Out of their suits, they can't do anything.
People like Noel Gallagher, Alex Turner, or even someone like Carl Barat can dress how they like all the time. Not only do they have the talent to back it up, they don't have this image that needs to be upheld.
So simply: The Horrors, when dressed like you or me, are nothing. If they wanted to have maintained appeal, they'd need maintained image.
and i can't imagine carl barat dresses in the whole indie street urchin chich he dons when goes down to the shops for a packet of fags.
if it was unclear, but its what I meant.
I mean I know nobody mentioned music, but we're discussing bands here, right? Call me weird, but I tend think about the music a teeny bit more than the clothes.
I'm not looking at this thread again.
He was on that tv show in the early 60s being interviewed about the fact that he had really long hair. At the time it was quite shocking...
more your territory. In this particular debate music was never mentioned. Comparing the Beatles to the Horrors musically would, of course, be stupid. If someone were to do that.
I'm in explorer so I can't copy/paste your quotes directly but youir first point in this thread is all about image and the distinction between stage persona and ones image in everday life. The second talks about how their image is fake and not a reflection of reality.
Seriously, I'm not the one whose missed the point. No one's response had anything to do with music.
I don't want my band members to look exactly like they've stepped off the street, necessarily. Dress up! Have fun! Do something different, you're on stage to entertain me, not look like you've come straight from the bookies and plugged your guitar in.
I dress in suits for gigs, but as people who've seen me will know - even to pop to the shops I still look like I just walked out of a Jean-Luc Godard movie... I don't actually own any clothes that would look out of place in the 60s!
Although, aren't Ladbrokes pens red not blue? Or have they changed. I haven't been in for ages, honest...