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...that you've scored it too low.
but since The Seer got a 10/10 as well, I wouldn't say it's inconsistent to give To Be Kind a 10/10 either.
Just how strong and consistent SWANS have been / are. Their early material, Cop in particular was so influential and can clearly be heard in Godflesh and other keys artists. The Seer is too long but the sounds and scope of the bulk of that album is incredible for a band of their 12th album - most bands are done by their 4th album, (if that).
I would also add that while both The Seer and To Be Kind are slightly overly long, I don't honestly can't think of more than a few minutes (out of the 2 hour running time on each!) that I would trim. I think they're both relatively lean albums for having such extreme running times.
is too much given how intense some of the songs are, not a criticism. I think the same about Henry Rollins output. Genuis but can only take it in small doses, you wouldn't listen to The End Of Silence all the way through, would you?
when I can get the time, e.g. a plane or train ride.
Nor is it as good as Children of God or Soundtracks for the Blind (or maybe even White Light...).
However, as per what Andrzej said below, I gave it 10/10 largely because I can't really see what more I could ask of it. On first listen I was leaning towards a 9 (or maybe even an 8) in comparison to my favourite Swans records, but then it tops almost everything I've heard since The Seer (including some records I'd consider 10/10ing) so in the end I decided I kinda had to give it top marks.
didn't know that
mid 90s Swans is underrated
It's pretty weak. I don't know what the fuck you lot are hearing.
I find them way too much effort but gira seems like a good egg.
do you always have to type it like SWANS
guesting on phantom bongos
not surprised by the 10/10 though. DiS has gotta do something to claw back some cred.
much more than any woman-hating comments could.
so it's cool
but I think Swans are one of those bands that lend themselves to top marks just through sheer extremity/immensity etc, the last two records feel like they're the maximum that record could possibly be, which probably isn't what you tend to think about most indie records.
...just wait until you check out The National.
wait until you gettaloada Deafheaven
I don't know why; as much as I enjoyed The Seer I never really felt it, it just sort of happened for a couple of hours then finished. Should be my kind of thing on paper. but what does paper know.
the new Agalloch is out btw. that is pretty maximal.
That's precisely what I think about Agalloch. On paper I should love them but they've never clicked for me, although I will probably give the new one a cursory listen at least.
you listen to Agalloch, I'll listen to Swans
It is excellent, as LastAstronaut says below. Doesn't follow as patient and cinematic a narrative as Marrow of the Spirit but, GODDAMN it is sounds big.
with Swans I have just never been able to acquire the taste.
but the mood has caught me once or twice, during which it's every bit as good as people said.
I think I was physically a bit spent and kind of piqued in some kind of socially conscious way both times. and it enthused me, very much in the classical sense of the word.
but then decided that it sounded great cos i'd been bored into submission by the previous twenty minutes in both cases :(
All about 'My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope 2 tha Sky' though
I sodding love SWANS more and more as time goes on.
Much better than the Seer, which is probably my least favourite Swans album by a long way.
but there's literally no way this is even close to being true
also: you guys can delete those 96 kbps rips now, by the way.
than most ppl would care to admit, but I still don't think this is much of a valid statement
listen to Oxygen and the end few mintues of Third Eye. or the end section of Bring The Sun and Aenima. the way the riffs develop and how the drum patterns seem to pre-empt a shift in a guitar riff, the guitar tones, the spacing of the instruments are all very similar.
really not a knock on Swans at all.
I think there's probably some overlap in influences between the two with the possibility of Swans influencing Tool (I don't think Tool's Prog influence is nearly as prevalent as their fans make it out to be), but those parallels seem vague to the point where I would pass it off as coincidental more than anything.
then got logged out and couldn't be arsed retyping it. just to let the record show
I still never understood why they needed that capital L.
Surely they should have a new album sometime?
pretty low expectations for it though
Why low expectations? I liked 10,000 days
maynard's pretty annoying nowadays, and idk just feel like their best stuff is long behind them,
There's quite a few filler/duff tracks from Ænima-onward, not to mention any progression is incremental at most.
they just haven't got it in them to make another one
anyway, let's stop talking about Tool
but My Father Will Guide Me... is better than The Seer, everyone.
For the 1st time in ages; it floored me again.
Can't wait to hear the new one.
so I can listen to To Be Kind, The Seer and Soundtracks For The Blind back-to-back. Possibly followed by their We Rose From Your Bed With The Sun In Our Head live album.
Only other post reformation stuff i've heard was a live 3 hours of boring. Too much jazz hands. Do like some old albums and some Angels of Light though.
need to hear this new one
I can actually see the Tool comparison. sorry for doubting you Jordan.
uh oh, it seems as though I'm liveblogging this.
stay tuned for more spurious comparisons and idiotic comments
I am excited.
the album's only £5.99 on Google Play Music.
Living in the extravagant past...
By my lifestyle doesn't permit it. I really need to take a week off from work and my family (oh, to be unemployed and single again...)
perfect soundtrack to hammering out a report i find, real ebb and flow over 2 hours, can finish you morning with a herculean feeling
Commute to and from work is the only option and I think they may be too full-on for that.
and my daughter has left home. So about 2035.
booked up for brixton
Well, I've listed to this album all the way through 4 times now and I really like it. Never been a massive Swans fan or anything, but I decided this is actually worth buying. I have the patience to sit through it and get lost in the music.
I'll cancel my order for the new Owen Pallett LP, which disappoints.
such a pity i have tickets for the war on drugs the day they play brixton :(
Maybe its because I've seen them live or own other albums by them, but on first listen it actually sounded quite... nice...?
have a read, let me know what you think
but it feels good.