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I thought you guys were meant to be indie?
Beach Boys, Beatles and Nirvana should be nowhere near this list.

this thread is an absolute farce.

Some horribly insignificant indie-schmindie records in there; some important records in strange orders.

Yuck

THERE'S A BIG MUSIC QUIZ GOING ON HERE:

http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4389261

And many thanks japes_! unsurprisingly only one of my 10 was in the top 20 (OKC), although I kind of thought "Illinois" might have a chance.

I'm really surprised Sufjan Stevens - Illinois isn't up there. I thought it was really popular on here.

of course Loveless wouldn't even be in my top 500 records of all time

actual list should have looked like this:

1 My Bloody Valentine - Loveless 
2 Radiohead - OK Computer 
3 Radiohead - Kid A
4 Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
5 Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea 
6 The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
7 Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
7 Weezer - Pinkerton 
9 Arcade Fire - Funeral
10 The National - Alligator
11 The Cure - Disintegration
12 The National - Boxer 
13 Joanna Newsom - Ys 
13 Pixies - Doolittle 
13 Weezer - Blue 
16 Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
16 The Wrens - Meadowlands 
18 Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F#A#OO 
19 The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds 
20 Nirvana - In Utero
20 Radiohead - In Rainbows 
20 The Beatles - White Album 

without which this is a distinctly male line-up

NMH getting to #5 is the result of some canny mass-trolling.
The only thing more inane would be something by Animal Collective getting in.

ItAOtS is a nice album. It's possibly even good. But it's also the most hilariously overrated album to become a meme in the last 5 years.

Nothing else besides The Wrens (seriously, I don't know if them showing up is amusing or just disturbing) is remotely surprising, except for maybe positioning.

well done for counting.

I wanted to stand beside you nodding while you read them out, Gareth Keenan-style.

...rank the voters by their 'average DiSness'. Those with the most entries in the DiS top 20 (and with the most popular in that list) are the most average DiS'er. We can then despise them as sheep. Anybody not scoring anything is a true hipster and we can adore them (or despise them too) accordingly.

Hurrah.

"a small percentage of DiSsers who voted in the favourite albums thread favourite albums" instead

has put 20-11 on facebook then linked 10-1 IN THIS THREAD!!

IMO

1 My Bloody Valentine - Loveless http://drownedinsound.com/releases/16981/reviews/4144878

2 Radiohead - OK Computer (might be google being rubbish but a bit confused that we don't seem to have a review of this, apart from Mike Diver http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4144688-no-surprises-15-classic-albums-of-15-years-ago )

3 Radiohead - Kid A
http://drownedinsound.com/lists/radiohead

4 Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/3034/reviews/4605 (written back in time before DiS had sub-editors)

5 Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (we don't appear to have ever reviewed this either... am sure we covered the re-issue... so here's the original Pitchfork review http://web.archive.org/web/20040922080107/http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/n/neutral-milk-hotel/in-the-aeroplane-over-the-sea.shtml )

6 The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
We should probably do a Smiths week at some point, for no reason. Here's a recent interview with Marr and Nile Rodgers from Chic http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145249

7 Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/4071/reviews/12265

7 Weezer - Pinkerton
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/15775/reviews/4141392

9 Arcade Fire - Funeral
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/2983/reviews/11169

10 The National - Alligator
...someone should probably review this for DiS, right?

11 The Cure - Disintegration
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/15400/reviews/4140058

12 The National - Boxer
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/10206/reviews/1955569

13 Joanna Newsom - Ys
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/8174/reviews/1276105-joanna-newsom-ys

13 Pixies - Doolittle
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/4738/reviews/705-pixies-doolittle (a glimpse at the early days of DiS)

13 Weezer - Blue
We've never reviewed this??!??!! Here's an interview http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/2850427

16 Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
Never reviewed this either?! Interview with Nicky Wire http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4137098-nicky-wire-on-the-manic-street-preachers-return--part-one

16 The Wrens - Meadowlands
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4140896-favourite-50--the-wrens-the-meadowlands-chosen-by-bruce-porter

18 Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F#A#OO
We've not reviewed much Godspeed. Probably because they don't really send out promos, and a lot of their best stuff pre-dates DiS. Some cracking pieces about Constellation here tho, which are well worth saving to read: http://drownedinsound.com/directory/artists/Godspeed_You_Black_Emperor/in_depth

19 The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
...never been reviewed either.

20 Nirvana - In Utero
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/4733/reviews/445- ...another glimpse at the early days of DiS

20 Radiohead - In Rainbows
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/2485286

20 The Beatles - White Album
Pretty sure we never 'need' to review this.

haven't listened to that in about 5 years. Also who are The Wrens?

but there are 4/5 in there which are in my top ten anyway. Good post I think you'll feel.

I signed up here looking for a good music forum. I'm not sure I've found one. That's a pretty embarrassing list.

I'll have a think about different mechanics and how to brief people on what they're voting for and stuff

http://open.spotify.com/user/seaninsound/playlist/1cVAhNXMPxQ7SyT3UIwu7r

No White Album, Ys or - somewhat weirdly - In Rainbows.

loathe. As per every other DISer no doubt. List of albums not everybody agrees on shocker...

but interpol are at number 4.

I think Dis needs to take a good hard look at itself ;)

but this is very white-male-with-guitar dominated, isn't it? I mean, even more so than I would have expected.

Loveless, The Queen Is Dead, Doolittle and Pet Sounds to me seem like worthy inclusions.

Having releases from the likes of Weezer, Manic Street Preachers, Arcade Fire and Interpol above the likes of (from the top of my head) Velvet Underground and Nico, Tago Mago, Innervisions, Nation of Millions, Pieces of a Man and Blonde on Blonde amongst others is pretty cringeworthy to me.

(i didn't vote)

I think you're being a bit patronising suggesting that those born after 1985 can't appreciate music not made by white college boys with guitars from before that era.

...not Mojo's favourite albums etc.

When reviewing the results, you have to:

1. Look at the demographic of the readership
2. Have regard to Severed799's point at 00:45 (see above) - it's a good one
3. Remember that people are often the most emotionally attached to albums that they experienced 'on release', (i.e. that were 'their secret' - for a bit at least) or that aren't part of the canon of acknowledged classics (perhaps individuals struggle to feel ownership or affinity to something when it is so ubiquitous that it is almost background) - this means that more recent albums are going to dominate

Yes, there are peculiarities in that list (the Wrens? who?), but there are top class records in that list.

If you want to properly understand results on these sorts of polls, you collect the sort of data that P4K is doing for its 20 best albums in P4K's lifetime. This thread never had those ambitions and isn't supported by the data to contextualise the answers.

I agree completely every poll on a website reflects the demograph of it's users.

I'm interested because, as mentioned earlier, I've been looking for a decent music forum for quite a while and thought this might be the one. Do you think that list really reflects the opinions of posters on here or just a handful that bothered to vote?

(if you're able to actually grasp the concept of a readers' poll)

But with 630 albums, I wouldn't dream of asking japes to compile this.

Thanks for the advice funkycow.

Two responses above - why should there be a separation between favourite and seminal? The albums I listed above are 6 or 7 of my favourites because they're fucking excellent albums. I didn't mention them because of their influence/legacy upon others.

I'm not saying that at all really, don't be so touchy. I was listening to Sly and Family Stone when I created the account hence the name.

I do however think that it's probably the worst favourite albums list I've ever seen and I'm looking forward to telling those that know me that I've still got what it takes to be a hipster. Cheers.

Thanks japes there's some good choices there. Never considered Low as Bowies best but it always seems to finish highest in these types of polls, probably again due to it's influence at the time. I prefer Hunky Dory personally. Funhouse is absolutely storming.

Crooked Rain is brilliant but for me Slanted and Enchanted is probably the album from that era I still listen to the most and it was a very fertile time for music.

Frayspooe, I'm sorry if I have upset you I have no idea who this previously banned poster was but it's ok you can go back to your radiohead cds in peace because I am not him/her.

Bit weird in this day and age that Electronic music doesn`t seem to get taken as seriously as Guitar/song based stuff. Personally I`d say It`s been most explorative, progressive and important music genre in the last 40 odd years or whatever.

I know what you mean skeleton but I just don't enjoy the explorative works of the likes of Kraftwerk as say the art rock stuff. I've got Eno's Here Come The Warm Jets which I've been meaning to listen to properly.

I was surprised not to see Portishead at least in there. All their releases have been classic, timeless stuff.

...that people consistently reach for those albums from those "classic" bands. And its funny that the "White Album" and "In Utero" were voted higher than more likely options from The Beatles or Nirvana. Like everyone thought that they should have one of their records on the list, and went for the less common option.

I mean - if anyone here were to sit down and listen to, say Velvet Underground or Love "Forever Changes" next to the White Album, then surely they would have to concede that they are more interesting and consistently brilliant records - that have been way more influential in influencing the kind of music that DiS champions. Equally - compare Fugazi "13 Songs" or Sonic Youth "Daydream Nation" to anything by Nirvana. Same story.

At least I presumed that most people who post here would feel that way.

I'm a bit cynical about Nirvanas success but that's a whole different subject. At the time the likes of Pixies, Sonic Youth, Pavement (slightly later) and even Mudhoney amongst others were writing much better stuff in my opinion.

http://i49.tinypic.com/359hely.jpg

10 released before 1997, 3 from the 80s, 2 from the 60s and none at all from the 70s. Good work, DiS.