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PIAS warehouse burnt down

http://www.twitter.com/roughtradeshops/status/100829282925936640

rock action and chemikal underground have so far said they're affected :'(

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  • :(

    Hope this doesn't effect the release of the new Mogwai EP.

  • *affect

  • just getting some more info

    but PIAS and Sony DADC look after loads of labels (including DiS) - list of the bigger ones including XL, Domino, etc here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIAS_UK_Distribution

    if you want to see the devastation, here's some video footage of it burning http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14454359

    i would imagine all the labels are insured and wotnot but i'm wondering if there's anything positive and useful we could all do to help?

  • oh fuck off

  • I detect sarcasm.

    He's previously opined about how scummy illegit DLers are.

    I'm pretty sure he knows such, um, subtelty(?) would go unnoticed and will chalk this one up as another win for his tactics of saying something daft that people nonetheless do come out with, and which gets slammed down.

    Win-win-win for him. Div ideas get a slamming. 'Right-ons' (with whom he agrees with on this issue, but with whom he wished to differentiate himself from, lest he get too friendly with the Lefties) get into a tizz. His 'cause' (people should respect music artists) gets support.

    Forever_Machiavellian.

  • Ah.

    He's actually explained himself this time.

    Feels strongly enough about this to not want to be misunderstood by people 'onm his side'. Hmmm. Interesting.

  • sad news

    I hope they can pull through ok!

  • This is an utter disaster

    I'd say about 20, 30% of all the bigger independent record labels are distributed by PIAS. Rough Trade, Domino, Soul Jazz, Big Dada/Ninja, Chemikal Underground etc etc.

    Shitting hell.

    vamos and justanothersheeldz this'd this
  • Hope this doesn't effect the release of the new Mogwai EP.

    London riots continue - release of new Mogwai EP delayed

  • Aaggh this damn forum

    London riots continue - release of new Mogwai EP delayed

  • Oh for fuck's sake

    Forget it.

  • just don't use speech marks

    we still can't work out what is causing this bug to fix it

  • Yeah, I know

    I just really like Mogwai.

  • what can we do to help?

    Some people suggesting purchasing records digitally by the affected labels.

    I might buy a heap of stuff and give it away, to encourage others to support labels? Would that be logical?

    wonton this'd this
  • Certainly all helps

    I'd say

  • Me too

    just imagining if the mainstream media shared our concerns :)

  • could

    put together a 'best of' compilation playlist with purchasing links for the whole set?

  • their site is down for some people

    Find below the list of labels distributed by [PIAS] UK:

    1234
    2020 Vision
    Accidental
    Ad Altiora
    Adventures Close to home
    Alberts
    All City
    Alt Delete
    Ambush Reality
    Angular
    Ark
    ATC
    Atic
    Atlantic Jaxx
    Azuli
    B Unique
    Backyard
    Bad Sneakers
    Bandstock
    Banquet
    Beggars
    Big Chill
    Big Dada
    Big Life / Nul / Sindy Stroker
    Boombox
    Border Community
    Boysnoize
    Brille
    Bronzerat
    Brownswood
    Buzzin Fly
    Can You Feel It
    Catskills
    ChannelFly
    Chemikal Underground
    City Rockers
    Counter
    D Cypher
    Dance To The Radio
    Deceptive
    Def Jux
    Dirtee Stank
    Divine Comedy
    Domino
    Drag City
    Drive Thru
    Drowned in Sound
    Duophonic
    Eat Sleep / Sorepoint
    Electric Toaster
    Emfire
    F. Comm
    Fabric
    Faith And Hope
    Fantastic Plastic
    Fargo
    FatCat
    Feraltone
    Finders Keepers / Twisted Nerve
    Fingerlickin'
    Flock
    Free Range
    From The Basement
    Full Time Hobby
    Goldsoul
    Gronland
    Groove Attack
    Halftime
    Hassle
    Heron
    Hum&Haw
    Independiente
    Info UK
    Join Us
    Kartel
    Kensaltown
    Kitsune
    Kompakt
    Laughing Stock
    Leftroom
    Lex
    Lo Max
    Loose
    Love Box
    Lowlife
    Lucky Number
    Marquis Cha Cha
    Memphis Industry
    Merok
    Metroline
    Mute
    Naïve
    Nation
    Navigator
    New World
    Ninja Tune
    Nuclear Blast
    One Little Indian
    Output / People in the Sky / Process
    Pale Blue
    Palm
    Peacefrog
    PIAS Recordings
    PIP 555 Productions
    Play To Work
    Powerhouse (T2)
    Propaganda / Ho Hum
    Raw Canvas
    Red Grape
    Red Telephone Box
    Rekids
    Renaissance
    Respect Productions (PES digital)
    Reveal Records
    RMG
    Rock Action
    Roots
    Rough Trade
    Rough Trade Comps
    Rubyworks
    Ruffa Lane
    Search And Destroy
    Secret Sundaze
    Secretly Canadian / Jagjaguwar / Dead Oceans
    Sell Yourself
    Setanta
    Shatterproof
    Sideone Dummy
    Slam Dunk
    Smalltown
    Soma
    Something In Construction
    Sonar Kollectiv
    Soul Jazz
    Southern Fried
    Stranded Soldier
    Subliminal
    Sunday Best
    TARGO
    Taste
    Ten Worlds
    Thrill Jockey
    Total Fitness
    Touch And Go
    Track And Field
    TriTone
    Trouble
    Try Harder
    Turk
    Turnstile
    Twenty 20
    Underworld
    Union Square
    Urban Torque
    Vagrant
    Vice
    Victory
    Wagram
    Wall Of Sound
    Warp
    Wi45
    Wonky Atlas
    Word And Sound
    Xtra Mile
    You Are Here

  • yeah, that's what I was thinking

    greatest hits sort of thing? which stores give labels the biggest cut?

  • Bleep might be a good one

    seeing as its run by Warp, or is it now independent?
    Boomkat sell a lot of PIAS things too I'm sure

  • I think that list is out of date...

    I can think of at least two other labels distributed by PIAS - Dummy and Basick.

  • use whoever

    recordstore, rough trade, norman, boomkat hell even amazon, play, hmv. just keep buying the music as you were!

  • NEWS UPDATE

    Dear all

    Many of you will now be aware that Sony DADC in Enfield has been affected by the continuing riots.

    Please be aware that despite reports circulating, it is only SONY DADC that has been burnt out and not PIAS. Pias are exploring a number of initiatives to mitigate the effect of the events at Sony DADC and will put out a statement later on.

    They are obviously working to get their service back up and running asap in relation to key lines and new releases and Sony DADC have a recovery emergency plan that is being put in place. This could include help from other distributors which has been offered.

    Of course our thoughts and best wishes have to go out to the many smaller labels and artists who have lost much of their stock and face considerable challenges to re-stock and carry on their business.

    Kind Regards

  • SONY DADC STATEMENT

    Dear all

    Many of you will now be aware that Sony DADC in Enfield has been affected by the continuing riots.

    Please be aware that despite reports circulating, it is only SONY DADC that has been burnt out and not PIAS. Pias are exploring a number of initiatives to mitigate the effect of the events at Sony DADC and will put out a statement later on.

    They are obviously working to get their service back up and running asap in relation to key lines and new releases and Sony DADC have a recovery emergency plan that is being put in place. This could include help from other distributors which has been offered.

    Of course our thoughts and best wishes have to go out to the many smaller labels and artists who have lost much of their stock and face considerable challenges to re-stock and carry on their business.

    Kind Regards

  • sonic cathedral

    not in the list as our stuff goes through full time hobby - still lost everything though :-(

  • :'(

  • This does affect PIAS labels. This is the email I got from my label manager at PIAS

    Dear All

    Please see below for a message from our distribution centre, Sony DADC in Enfield. There has been a massive fire and the likelihood is that all stock is lost. More information as we get it.

    As soon as we have news of Sony DADC's emergency plans and how we will get back on track we will let everyone know

    Many thanks
    ---

    Begin forwarded message:
    Date: 9 August 2011
    Subject: Sony DADC Enfield - urgent

    Please be advised that there has been a serious incident at our DC in Enfield.

    Large fire, still not under control, likelihood that all stock is lost.

    All staff are ok.

    Further details to follow.

  • can everyone also think about how the record shops are going to cope?

    Not discounting this terrible news for independent labels and their acts, we should also reach out to the businesses PIAS distribute to have to weather through this. All the independent shops who don't have an online store will have had their lifeline to a vast amount of stock temporarily shut down...

    The_Living_Year this'd this
  • #labellove

    this is a small idea but why not tweet one of your favourite labels and thank them for releasing a record that has improved your life. or share a link to encourage your friends to support the label that means a lot to you.

    i realise this won't change anything but it might brighten a few people's days who've lost all their stock and it may be a good turn to a tragedy into something positive by getting people into people onto some great music.

  • FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...

    ...not the new MOGWAI EP.

    Alright looters, this time it's personal.

    mrSpaceman this'd this
  • :) i like this

    Dear Sean,

    That first Redjetson album was REALLY, REALLY good.

    Cheers,
    Jordan.

    medulla and allisfulloflove this'd this
  • I really hope the labels and shops affected can pull through.

    littlebirds and redstripes this'd this
  • Smalltown?

    Oh man.

  • Wait never mind

    they've confirmed they're not actually affected.

  • Memphis Industries tweet

    So all the stock we got left is sitting in our office. Devastated is the word.

  • Statement from Chemical Underground:

    The destruction of the SONY/DADC warehouse in Enfield last night and with it, the stock belonging to dozens of great independent labels distributed by PIAS UK, represents a sad and frustratingly bitter blow to the music industry at a time when it can least afford it.

    While we’ve lost a considerable chunk of our own back catalogue in addition to stock of our more recent titles, the repercussions of last night’s events will be felt by all labels and retailers up and down the country for months to come. We also have enormous sympathy for PIAS itself: a wonderful independent distributor and an unfailingly supportive partner for Chemikal Underground over the last twelve years.

    Quantifying the financial impact this will have on labels will take time but one thing is becoming abundantly clear: the suggestion that people no longer value music or those who endeavour to make it is myth; the collective support and sympathy being offered online for artists and labels demonstrates that we have a uniquely passionate and proactive community of music fans throughout the UK and it’s this passion and support that can, and will, ultimately, sustain the labels currently under threat.

    From Chemikal Underground’s point of view, we’d like to thank everyone who has got in touch to show their support, it means a lot. In terms of what you can do to help we suggest you scan the list of PIAS distributed labels listed below and purchase one of their albums. A small thing? Yes, but under the circumstances, the innocuous act of purchasing an album becomes a potent symbol of solidarity for independent music.

    1234
    2020 Vision
    Accidental
    Ad Altiora
    Adventures Close to home
    Alberts
    All City
    Alt Delete
    Ambush Reality
    Angular
    Ark
    ATC
    Atic
    Atlantic Jaxx
    Azuli
    B Unique
    Backyard
    Bad Sneakers
    Bandstock
    Banquet
    Basick
    Beggars
    Big Chill
    Big Dada
    Big Life / Nul / Sindy Stroker
    Boombox
    Border Community
    Boysnoize
    Brille
    Bronzerat
    Brownswood
    Buzzin Fly
    Can You Feel It
    Catskills
    ChannelFly
    Chemikal Underground
    City Rockers
    Counter
    D Cypher
    Dance To The Radio
    Deceptive
    Def Jux
    Dirtee Stank
    Divine Comedy
    Domino
    Drag City
    Drive Thru
    Drowned in Sound
    Dummy
    Duophonic
    Eat Sleep / Sorepoint
    Electric Toaster
    Emfire
    F. Comm
    Fabric
    Faith And Hope
    Fantastic Plastic
    Fargo
    FatCat
    Feraltone
    Finders Keepers / Twisted Nerve
    Fingerlickin'
    Flock
    Free Range
    From The Basement
    Full Time Hobby
    Goldsoul
    Gronland
    Groove Attack
    Halftime
    Hassle
    Heron
    Hum&Haw
    Independiente
    Info UK
    Join Us
    Kartel
    Kensaltown
    Kitsune
    Kompakt
    Laughing Stock
    Leftroom
    Lex
    Lo Max
    Loose
    Love Box
    Lowlife
    Lucky Number
    Marquis Cha Cha
    Memphis Industry
    Merok
    Metroline
    Mute
    Naïve
    Nation
    Navigator
    New World
    Ninja Tune
    Nuclear Blast
    One Little Indian
    Output / People in the Sky / Process
    Pale Blue
    Palm
    Peacefrog
    PIAS Recordings
    PIP 555 Productions
    Play To Work
    Powerhouse (T2)
    Propaganda / Ho Hum
    Raw Canvas
    Red Grape
    Red Telephone Box
    Rekids
    Renaissance
    Respect Productions (PES digital)
    Reveal Records
    RMG
    Rock Action
    Roots
    Rough Trade
    Rough Trade Comps
    Rubyworks
    Ruffa Lane
    Search And Destroy
    Secret Sundaze
    Secretly Canadian / Jagjaguwar / Dead Oceans
    Sell Yourself
    Setanta
    Shatterproof
    Sideone Dummy
    Slam Dunk
    Smalltown
    Soma
    Something In Construction
    Sonic Cathedral
    Sonar Kollectiv
    Soul Jazz
    Southern Fried
    Stranded Soldier
    Subliminal
    Sunday Best
    TARGO
    Taste
    Ten Worlds
    Thrill Jockey
    Total Fitness
    Touch And Go
    Track And Field
    TriTone
    Trouble
    Try Harder
    Turk
    Turnstile
    Twenty 20
    Underworld
    Union Square
    Urban Torque
    Vagrant
    Vice
    Victory
    Wagram
    Wall Of Sound
    Warp
    Wi45
    Wonky Atlas
    Word And Sound
    Xtra Mile
    You Are Here

    Alun, Emma, Paul and Stewart.

  • slightly fresher list

    LABEL NAME
    [PIAS] Recordings
    [PIAS] Recordings Belgium
    4AD
    A Camp
    Absynthe Minded
    Accidental
    AEI Music
    Air Recordings
    ALC Music
    Alsation
    Ambush Reality
    Ancient & Modern
    Angular Recording Corporation
    Arcady Records
    Ark Recordings
    Asthmatic Kitty Records
    Atlantic Jaxx Recordings
    Bad Magic
    Balling The Jack
    Banquet Records
    Battered Ornaments Records
    Beggars Banquet
    Best Before
    Big Brother
    Big Dada
    Bird Records
    blackmaps
    Bloody Chamber
    Blowout Music
    Blue Chopsticks
    Border Community
    Borstal Beats
    Boysnoize Records
    BPM
    Brainfeeder
    Brassland
    Bright Star Recordings
    Brille
    Broken Sound Music
    Bronzerat
    Brothers and Sisters
    Brownswood Recordings
    Buzzin' Fly
    Cache Cache
    Cadenza Records
    Celluloid Records
    Chalkmark / IE
    Chemikal Underground Records
    Cocoon
    Control Tower
    Counter Records
    Dance To The Radio
    Dead Oceans
    Deceptive
    Defenders Ent UK
    DESOLAT
    Dessous
    Different
    Dirtee Stank
    Divine Comedy Records
    Domino Records
    Double Six Records
    Drag City
    Dreambrother
    Drive Thru Records
    Drowned In Sound
    Dummy Records
    Duophonic
    Eat Sleep Records
    Fabric Worldwide
    Fake Diamonds
    FantasyTrashcan
    Fatcat Records
    Fence
    Feraltone
    Finders Keepers Records
    Flock Music
    Flying Circus
    Freerange Records
    Friends Vs Records
    Full Pupp
    Full Time Hobby
    Gang Of Four Recordings
    Geographic
    Ghost Ship
    Glaze Recordings
    Groenland Records
    G-Unit
    Hardly Art
    Hassle Records
    Helpless
    Hem Hem Records
    HFN Music
    Immune
    Independiente
    Infant
    Infectious
    Jagjaguwar
    Kartel
    Kitchenware
    Kitsune
    KMS Records / Fabric
    Laughing Stock
    Lex Records
    Lipservice
    Little Sister Recordings
    LO-MAX Records
    Loose Music
    Lovepump United
    Low Life Records
    Lucky Number Music
    Lucky Seven Records
    Mantra
    Matador
    Memphis Industries
    Merok
    Metric Music International
    Metroline Limited
    Model Citizen
    Moikai
    Motion Audio
    MyMajorLabel Ltd
    Nation
    Ninja Tune
    No Quarter
    NovaMute
    Nusic Sounds
    One Four Seven Records Ltd
    One Little Indian
    Organs
    Outcaste
    OVNI
    P.I.L.
    Peartree Records
    PeMa
    People In The Sky
    People Tree
    Pirates Blend Records Inc
    Planet Function
    Play It Again Sam
    Playlouder
    Poker Flat
    Polyvinyl Records
    Poseidon Records
    Post Present
    Pschent
    Raw Canvas
    Red Cord Records
    REK'D
    Rekids
    Rekords Rekords
    Renaissance
    Reveal Records
    Riverman Records
    Rock Action Records
    Roots Records
    Rough Trade Records
    Rubyworks
    Sea Note
    Search and Destroy
    Secretly Canadian
    Setanta
    Shape
    SideOneDummy Records
    Silva Screen
    Slam Dunk Records
    Smekkleysa
    Soma
    Sonic Cathedral
    Soul Jazz Records
    South Paw
    Southern Fried Records
    Stereo Bang Media
    Stolen Recordings
    Stranger Records
    Streamline
    Sub Pop
    Suicide Squeeze
    Sunday Best
    Thrill Jockey
    Tirk
    Too Pure
    Torque Records
    Touch & Go Records
    Transmission Recordings
    Tri Tone
    Trouble Records
    True Panther
    Try Harder
    Turnstile
    Twisted Nerve Recordings
    Universal Sound
    Victory Records
    Wagram
    Wall of Sound
    Warp
    Watergate
    We Love You
    Wiiija
    Willkommen Records Ltd
    Wonderfulsound
    XL
    Xtra Mile Recordings
    Yaala Yaala
    Young Turks

  • You can

    Buy records / CD's / Downloads directly from the labels site as they will have there own stock.

    The Ninja Tune shop which also includes Big Dad / Brainfeeder is incredibly cheap always. I just bought a bunch of stuff.

  • so wait

    stock from PIAS labels *was* destroyed?

    what was that statement they put out all about then?

  • I don't get this

    so all the stock was uninsured? Because everyone on twitter is going "the labels have lost EVERYTHING" etc etc. But SURELY it's insured??

  • maybe

    but a lot of smaller labels live month-to-month, and if they can't send out stock while they wait for insurance to come through it might kill them.

  • I'm sure it was insured

    As I understand it* the problem would likely be that in the period that it takes for the insurance to get turned around (probably a few months) that the labels won't have the income from the sale of the albums that would have been in stock. I'm not sure but suspect that many insurance policies don't cover lost profits in the period until the insurance payment comes in again.

    And once the money comes in for companies to make more stock there will be huge backorders at the suppliers as labels have to re-press their entire back catalogues to get back to where they were before.

    So they've not lost everything per se, but if it's your job and you were only just getting by before, this could be the last straw.

    Gutting all around.

    *Of course I might be wrong.

  • plus you have press things in runs not individually

    money upfront for the a print run that may take years to sell. alright if you just have to do them as theyre released, not so good when you have to repress your entire back catalogue.

  • So

    is this stuff destroyed or not?

  • Nearly every insurance policy

    from travel, household contents to building insurance excludes cover for "war, riot and acts of god". I would be amazed if they receive any compensation.

  • list from boomkat

    http://boomkat.com/support_pias_labels/grid
    (and before people complain about them profiteering. they do say it's better to buy from the label itself)

    InfiniteJest this'd this
  • ^this so much

    PIAS/Sony DADC are our main distributor, we were massively lucky enough to receive a huge order from them yesterday which must have been one of the last to leave the warehouse.

    Downloading/buying direct is not really the answer - think about how much more business distributors receive from shops rather than individuals!

  • Yeah

    Hi Sean

    Thanks for that Metric album what you done did release.

    #labellove from AndyV.

  • Did anyone see the warehouse on the news?

    It's just not there any more.

  • ^yes^

    Go onto the chemikal underground site and buy anything by the delgados. i have just bought 'peloton' so you should probably get that or the 'great eastern' both are fantastic albums.

  • liverpool folk; or others

    i'm trying to set up a series of shows in liverpool to try and help. experimenting with how possible this is but i want the entry fee to be free if you can show that you've spent x amount of money on digital releases from affected labels since the distro centre burnt down. if any of you can help or want to join the efforts in other cities (i understand there are other people trying to do it, i contacted piasfundraising@gmail.com earlier and am waiting for another response) then email me at robertgrahamlarkin@gmail.com, people especially needed are those with connections to venues, connections to bands who will be enough of a draw to get people buying, people who can help with the tech side, anybody who can help with promotion, representatives from labels who have the time to open communications with us, etc. community effort.

  • the confusion is because

    some people thought the PIAS offices burned down but they did not.

  • I would recommend:

    Rolling Blackouts by The Go! Team, on Memphis Industries. I must say that I find the lyrics and title of one of the songs on the album, "Buy Nothing Day", to be particularly apt; if you buy nothing today, it could be the end of these labels.

  • Not the best idea

    because PIAS is more deeply effected by this than most of the labels. Buy your music as you normally would, so PIAS continues to get our support as well. There is plenty of stock they already have at music stores. Buying music directly would be cutting the life line to PIAS, and anyone suggesting to do so should be questioned of their intent in telling people this. THINK about it.

  • ouch

    www.reverbnation.com/malfunktionjunction **** Hey everyone in the drownedinsound community I have a band out of Charleston Sc making head way through the south east just trying to to let some people hear about them before they get bigger. They're fans are awesome and the shows are real rock n roll shows. spontaneous is the word.. Hope everyone enjoys. email me @ red.berry67@gmail.com if you have any questions about the band. WITH peace and love

  • where his argument completely collapses

    is when he says the big indies, XL, beggars, warp etc are "playing up the tragic angle as much as possible". guess what, they're not, not one of them has - because theyre run by sensible, caring people. they've all issued press releases saying that they are OK, and theyre mostly worried about these small cottage-industry labels who dont have the resources to recover as easily.

  • contra jofo/empire...primarily a vinyl label so...

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