Plan B - R.I.P.
I've known about this for a month or so now, but sadly it's now official - the next issue of Plan B will be the last one. I've never been a major contributor but I've been doing bits and bobs for them for the best part of three years now, and I'm absolutely gutted it's gone, it really was my favourite music magazine.
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That's sad news
jesus
why?!
Thats awful
I'd only really got to appreciate it about 6 months ago. It was getting better and better every issue. No one else does lengthy features of that quality.
Maybe some of the writers will move on and set up something similar again?
What!?
Oh god that's terrible news
I've been reading it for years, absolutely my favourite magazine.
Anyone know why?
say its not true!
I have issues left on my subs.
But seriously, I have loved this set of mag since the early days of Careless Talk Cost Lives. I have very fond memories of that mag and I'm sure I will have of Plan B.
Gutted.
Whaaaaaaaaaat?!
This sucks. Will features be posted online often now?
NOOOOOO!!!
Seriously this can't happen?!? But its a great magazine! If this is true I really am disheartened by it.
People torrent music
Therefore music dies.
official line:
'After a lot of deliberation, we've come to the decision that it is no longer financially possible for us to continue publishing Plan B. To do so in the current economic climate would involve us making cuts in staff, print quality, amount of content, and the size and/or frequency of the mag - and those are compromises we don't want to make, not least because we don't think they will, in the long term, benefit any of us. We're really proud of what we've done, and choose to end on a high note, while things are still relatively stable.'
This can't be true.
It seems like they're doing pretty well.
If true, it would royally suck. There's nothing else like it in print.
Also, that magazine means a lot to me.
you are fucking shitting me
I just threw out every single issue expect the first year because I thought it would go on for years.
fuck off!!! EVERY SINGLE ISSUE!!!! I did it last week. LAST WEEK!
t.y.p.i.c.a.l.
aside from my own personal anguish, this is pretty rubbish news indeed. It was a really useful magazine, really nothing like it - only bettered by The Wire. It might have been infuriating at times, but still covered great unique music.
r.i.p indeed.
is true, yes
i'll write more about it soon.
for now, subscribers shd rest easy - we didn't go bust, and one of the reasons we're stopping now is that we're still able to reimburse those owed issues. seemed the classy thing to do.
as for why - very basically, Plan B is funded mainly via advertising from indie labels - who are selling less records - and thus...have less to spend on advertising.
PDFs of ALL issues shd be available on the website soon, and announcements about what contributors move on toward will appear there, too. (for myself, see http://twitter.com/kicking__k for continued news. or, um, don't).
oh, and there's one issue left - June's. so get on that. it's our fifth birthday issue. DARK.
thx for kind words. they help.
five alive
or not.
the pain is going to kick in when that issue hits the shelves. until then, it will never be real!
That's a shame...
...I must admit I haven't bought a music mag for well over a year but this was always one of my favourites. I had pretty much every issue of Careless Talk too. Good luck to the excellent writers and artists, I'm sure they'll find work contributing elsewhere.
IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!!
safety wink
Sad news....
Still haven't received this months though....
Me either...
two, not one, to look forward to I guess...
I'm really sad about this
It's the only thing I read regulary from cover to cover and turned me on to so much good music. I hope the writers continue elsewhere.
No!
this is terrible news! it's the only music mag I buy now, and certainly the only one i've ever subscribed to.... :-(
really gutted. RIP Plan B...
most of their reviews are about a paragraph long
Sad times.
bit
embarrassed i threw my link in there. do links always look so prominent, or do i have shame-goggles on?
annnyway - again, thx to everyone who read, however often - it was all for you, and - like i say - it wasn't sales that were the problem...without wanting to sound like a parson milking a bad scene, it's just another symptom of how independent culture (labels, bands, etc) will struggle to survive if not financially supported (try telling the printing company that ink wants to be free. they will tell you you're having a giraffe. with swears).
This is going to happen more and more to independent labels/bands/magazines
The one-two punch of recession plus easy free availability of anything on the internet is going to cause some casualties for sure. I'm just gutted it had to be Plan B, I really don't know what I'm going to read for that breadth of coverage and consistently excellent writing. The Wire has good writing but not the same level of coverage of bands I actually want to hear about (i.e. not an obscure Mongolian nose flute player) as you guys.
Sandman became web-only recently
And a couple of weeks ago was killed off completely
owh i'm gutted about this
plan b is my favourite magazine
Well this sucks.
I can't say I ever read all the features in Plan B, but it was always well written and beautifully designed. Shame.
what a shame
Print media in general has to find a way to survive.
that really sucks
pretty much the same month Skyscraper is calling it quits as well.
I gave it a chance
then it went a bit shit..then all of a sudden thye really picked up and last issue was brilliant.
This is a big shame
As if this thread isn't about the artist Plan B
NO MORE READIN' FOR YOU NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
BLAAAD
oh god no way!!!
i thought
you meant the fit blonde rapper
this is a real shame
i didn't care for a lot of the music plan b covered, but i always read the features as the amount of passion and thought that went into them was a pleasure to experience.
fairly long blog about it here
http://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/rip-plan-b/
Print media is struggling, I get that
but if I go to a newsstand, I still see magazines that focus on all sorts of obscure shit. Trade journals, esp. You'd think something as broadly popular as MUSIC would be one of the last subjects to go. And it canna just be because Plan B is indie-focused; Spin and a dozen other pop music rags have also died in recent years. Sad news, indeed; I feel like waterboarding a terrorist.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Bollocks.
Hell.
One of the highlights of my month, sad git that I am, was trawling through plan b with a beer and my laptop.
"ooooh they sound cool. And they are on emusic! Save for later! What's on the next page..."
DAMN IT.
I assume those who have just renewed their subscriptions will get a refund?
Hang on, SPIN still exists!
It's everything though... newspapers to music to film to politics. Niche magazines will probably stand a better chance succeeding than the mainstream ones as they don't have to take in as much.
They stated above that Plan B's money came from indie labels who've now cut their advertising budgets anyway.
I like the amount of information you can get online, but I'll always enjoy newspapers, magazines and books as well. Hopefully there's some sort of balance in the end, but right now, it's just one magazine closing after another no matter the genre or size. It's shocking how quickly it's happening.
You can't read a laptop screen in the bath
I've just tried to console myself by impulse buying a subscription to THE WIRE.
The Wire is grand, no doubt
but it doesn't have the pretty pictures Plan B does and it doesn't smell anywhere near as nice.
sorry to hear this
What a shame, I really like this mag and have a subscription-booooo!
Oh fuck this.
I loved Plan B a huge amount and will miss them loads. Definitely my favourite ever music magazine.
Die young ...
So young and still fresh. The longest features and the shortest mini reviews were all well written by people who knew and cared. There was no mock cynicism, no smart-arse put downs, no lame puns. Just wonderful writing, beautiful illustrations and well designed advertisements for things that were worth advertising. I will miss it, but I'll be looking for the same quality wherever the people go next.
i call for a retrospective issue
to bring the magazine to a close, featuring the best pieces from the past five years, in a sort of 'annual' format.
i think its a great idea anyway.
Oh.
No chance of it becoming a quarterly or something? Or special one offs (like what CarelessTalk and LooseLips kinda became)?
It had its faults, but it was still the sharpest, most beautifully designed music magazine in the country.
:'(
RImotherfuckingP.
Awful, awful news...
Started reading Plan B relatedf with
issue 2 (11?) of Careless Talk and never, never looked back - where do I look for guidance now? Fartknocker?
If you can get it, the Fader.
http://www.thefader.com/magazine/back_issues
We used to stock Fader at Virgin...
you know, when Virgin was still Virgin... Nice little read - like Paste, but no Plan B.
Nothing, excepting the genuinely superior Careless Talk, is like Plan B. An outrageously sad, sad day for all concerned...
And to think, it was Rock-a-Rolla that I used to worry about...
This is very sad news
I think an era is ending.
Thanks to everyone at Plan B for the pleasure you've given me, and the opinions you've shared. I didn't agree with them all, but they were always honest, well informed, well written and beautifully produced.
I am very sorry. Now what to do .....?
might be a bit late, now it's gone official and all
but could they do a 'Save Plan B' campaign like Paste magazine has been doing in the US? Could ask favourite bands to donate a rare track and offer a whole load of them to anybody who donates. It's quite interestesting how successful the aforementioned US campaign has been.
This is really sad.
I've been reading Plan B since the second issue and have been a subscriber since they started doing subscriptions. It's turned me on to countless bands and opened my mind to all kinds of stuff.
One of the best things about it is that the writing is often really inspirational; like, many times when I've been in a rut or unable to write a song or whatever, an article in Plan B (usually about a band I've never heard) has reminded me why I love music or sparked something or other in me (real eloquent, huh?). I look forward to getting this same feeling from whatever the contributers (particularly kick, Frances Morgan, Ringo P Stacey, Nicola Meighan (sp?) and many others whose names I've been too lazy to remember) move on to next.
People should buy more (good) stuff.
must be why i didn't get my subscription this month...
not the reason - badly timed postal fuck up
email richard@planbmag.com about it
EV has written a few words
http://everetttrue.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/day-68-plan-b-magazine-r-i-p/
It was Miss AMP who introduced me to Frances Morgan.
Almost immediately, I got into an argument about her. I wanted to send her to interview Sonic Youth for Careless Talk Costs Lives and the press agent was concerned that I was commissioning an untested music critic (Frances was, and remains, a talented musician) to talk to her flagship band. I responded that I’m just as able to spot intelligence, passion – and something else, being driven – as anyone, and so Frances went down to speak to her favourite band as her first interview as a critic.
Afterwards the PR graciously let me know that she (and the band) thought the interview went great.
For a long time after, I kind of wished I hadn’t introduced Frances into the fold – her writing (like that of Neil Kulkarni, Stevie Chick and Miss AMP, for quite different reasons) always made me feel inadequate, in its ability to describe music so imaginatively.
Right from the start, Frances has been crucial, the main part of Plan B Magazine. I might have helped conceptualise and realise the magazine, alongside Chris Houghton and Andrew Clare (and lesser-sung names such as the wonderful Richard Stacey) but it was Frances, right from the outset, who was the driving force behind the title. My role at Plan B has always been advisory, to a lesser or greater degree. It was her vision and dedication and hard work and enthusiasm that have filled its pages, attracted the contributors, kept the title going way beyond what I (and Chris, I suspect) believed to be its natural lifespan. She commissioned the stories, proof-read the stories, oversaw the content and section editors. Even cleaned the bloody offices!
In the past year she moved into the role of publisher to allow Louis Pattison to take a very able crack at being editor – but simply, she did that to try and give Plan B one last chance to survive following my departure to Australia. Tons of other people contributed – very high on my list would be kicking_k, whose examplary taste (i.e. it often agrees with mine) and enthusiasm and ability to discover great music I’ve had cause to comment on before; but also the ever-reliable and visionary design skills of Andrew Clare, the initial and crucial burst of energy and business acumen supplied by Chris Houghton, and folk like Cat and Sarah and Lauren and Thee Stevie Chick, and Nick Taylor, our ads manager who singlehandedly gave the title at least another year of life, David McNamee, who did so much to help define the character of the magazine at the start, and all the sections editors, and Jesus the contributors, awesome folk who I’m so pleased to have worked alongside, the photographers, interns, illustrators, ad reps, supportive PRs, record industry people…you know this list could go on for a very long time…but without Frances there, every fucking hour of the day, Plan B simply wouldn’t have made it to issue 15, let alone 45.
I’m getting choked up. Obviously, I’ve been aware of the imminent demise of Plan B for some time – but it’s one thing just sharing that knowledge among a few likeminded souls, and another having it made public.
I mean, Jesus, we didn’t do so bad, did we? Built ourselves into a national magazine from scratch with no outside funding, and lasted four-and-a-half years. Folk are already talking about this as one more nail into the coffin of the print media, but actually I think the advent of web 2.0 had little to do with Plan B’s demise. Sure, it’s related to the way the music industry is mutating. Sure, it’s related to the global recession, localised – but Plan B was too much a niche title for web 2.0 to have that much of an effect.
Don’t think of this as an ending. Think of this as a beginning. We’re not going to go away. The website and forum are still up and running – and with no intent to close either. And we’re still going to be out there, thriving, adapting, inspiring, challenging. There’s no fucking way we’re going to go away now.
This is so so sad
the only music publication that was readable. I have literally nothing to read now music wise.
.
I'm still mourning over Jockey Slut
And probably Select, too.
Least. Surprising. News. Ever.
(Safety wink, etc. I quite liked The Face myself, although obviously it did frequently descend into ridiculousness)
Wow, thats bad news.
The most recent one I bought (I think it was this months) was really great. Sad to see it go.
thought you meant that rapping acoustic guitar douche
damn
whence the Plan B aesthetic / ideology, though...?
If there's one thing you can say about CTCL, LLSS, and Plan B, it's that they were egalitarian... to a fault.
In the last year(s) of its life, Melody Maker tried to be something to everyone (this mostly meant looking beyond Indie to Urban, Metal, and Pop), and somehow went down even faster. In defiance of commerce, CTCL and then Plan B seemed to be about re-visiting MM's idea but with better writing... and for a few years this approach commanded serious loyalty. Plan B was a magazine you could grow up with, and grow backwards or sideways (into the mindset of different times, or subcultures), rather than grow out of, never to return (e.g. the NME).
Articulated to its agenda to review, criticize, and write in a way that rejected hierarchical divisions of gender, class, age... and genre, independence or otherwise, Plan B actually seemed to be staffed in a way that was more egalitarian than any magazine I can think of, and stood in direct opposition to the failures of representation we see in other sectors of society, let alone Government and the City. (The feeble-minded hypocrisy of Observer Music Monthly always seems to contrast this violently...). This might be an illusion, but the idealism was admirable.
In not rating reviews, Plan B missed a trick - its poetic rhapsodies would rarely feature on marketing material, indirectly promoting the magazine itself - and the policy-makers occasionally hinted that they disliked "list-making" and "ranking", which could be mistaken for masculine, and hence "patriarchal" tendencies. So far, so idealistic, but ratings supplement a review, rather than supplanting it, and numbers give an indication how close artists have come to being groundbreaking, moving, or simply tuneful... depending on the emphasis of the review. Even those of us who hate the commercial world want targets, right? As an artist... or as a listener who wants a challenge.
Also (and less often commented), the non-rating system meant you had to get a sense of the personalities of the Plan B writers, to understand what their oneiric, flippant, sometimes-visionary responses to music actually meant. To some extent, you found yourself following their stories, the way other people follow Hollyoaks... or The Archers.
Anyhow. Plan B was a significant part of my cultural life - a continuity right back to MM, which I started reading half-a-lifetime ago. No doubt, we'll see the best of the writers finding new homes... and maybe Frances will have time to work on Strange Attractor Vol. 4.
Best of luck, y'all...!
Interesting,
particularly the part about following the writers. I once had to phone up one of the writers through work (entirely unrelated to Plan B/music). It was an exciting time for me.
Wrote this on another blog earlier today..
Tis a shame and I really enjoyed their early issues and those CTCL and LLSS efforts – at the time music wasn’t as readily available online as it is now and fans can pick up everything they need for free – so why pay for a magazine?
The writing was admirable but at times masked incompetence – I’d rather read a simple, to the point review sometimes on a record or live gig than some fancy prose from some dude’s emo-fuelled diary.
It’s sad that it’s gone and Classic Rock, Mojo et al will carry on blabbing on about Jimi Hendrix. Time to fancy the future methinks..
Hope Plan B stays online…
damn,
hip-hop connection and plan b quick 1-2 punch. hurts.
agree with a lot of what spawk says.
liked the lack of ratings- forcing you to engage. reviews online, i just skim for the rating a lot.
they covered women and black musicians better than anyone else.
it was a pretty magazine.
good luck everyone involved.
the first issue i bought was with afriampo on the over and had a really good sleater kinney interview
yesterday i bought the one with grizzly bear on the cover, its really hard to believe its over
. . .
Much of what I could say has been said. I was - am - a fan of Plan B, and it'll be a sad day indeed when it is forever gone from stands.
Sadder, still, is that its folding could not be prevented somehow - blindly subscribing to the perspective that quality will always outweigh quantity, that passion will trump politics, I thought it'd always have a place in the physical form, one way or another. Nobody's really selling magazines nowadays - the last ABCs were shocking for the music press - but if so many other titles can survive...
Credit where it's due to Plan B for delivering what it did over the past near-on half decade. No editorial team at any so-called 'rival' publication (did it have any?) will be cheered by its closure; it was superbly respected, and perhaps the last risk-taker out there in its editorial policy.
..
Nothing new I can add except to send good wishes to all those behind the mag for future plans. Go easy now, you did good.
There goes my dream...
of having something published in it someday. Still there are some fairly nice mags about like Bearded that are worth checking out. I've been reading Plan B since it's name change and I must say I will miss it greatly. I found loads of really good bands through it but like Everett says...there's no way they will go away - it's just a shame there won't be as many decent mags to read on the way to work.
Terrible news
Congratulations on being the best music publication I've read in living memory.
not sure whether it's tasteless or appropriate to point this out here
but our Patrick Wolf review is the maiden DiSadventure from the delightful Lauren Strain, erstwhile Plan B albums ed: http://drownedinsound.com/releases/14426/reviews/4136953
You monster
In other news, you can still buy this magazine from my (small) local newsagent...
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=74364&id=512083026&l=335b357ac2
I used to work with the company that makes that
along with a bunch of other obscure titles, like Practical poultry, Classic military vehicle, stationary engine, old tractor et al
and I have to say that they are lovely people who make lovely magazines that they really care about and sell quite a few copies, so good luck to them rather Kelsey sold magazines than emap...