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that was pretty much the best thing i've ever seen.
my ears hurt.
12. maybe 13.
definitely the loudest band i've ever seen. managed to top dinosaur jr...
I think Monday's going to be good!
Bit of a trivial question, but do they allow bags into where the band is playing?
it's gonna be days.
but wow, i mean, that last bit. that's a once in a lifetime experience there.
i really don't want to give anything away.
yeah i'm going tomorrow. i'm excited now.
i've got a spare ticket. do you/anyone want it?
but I'm in peterborough...and skint...and am going to see them but am fearing that seeing them at a festival could be a massive disappointment. Hell someone please convince me otherwise..
oof. life can really fuck you over sometimes.
I'm only here for about a week, I can't move into my Manchester house and I'm working in france as of monday. Hang about, yes life is awful, please donate that ticket to me xxxxxx
unfortunately jordan's friend is having it. sorry!
if so I am
they were the only reason why I booked Beni at first. They better be good out there otherwise I'll cry about missing them playing here
...nearly killed me. it was like the sound of a plane's engine exploding during take off. on my face.
from reports it sounds like it was louder than ICA, which is fantastic.
depending where you were standing, it could be FAR louder than the ICA. it was fucking deafening at one point about the 6th or 7th song. kevins guitar was coming through so loudly i genuinely couldnt figure out what song it was!
what time you gonna be in london for tomorrow? think me and dom are getting in around half five/six.
I took my earplugs out for a bit and only really had them half in anyway. My ears are in pain but it sounded incredible.
Perfect setlist. You Made Me Realise 30 minute long noise bit = the greatest 30 minutes of my life.
were they giving out earplugs this time?
I would advise taking them up on the offer.
no worries for me with earplugs, i have my own, but that's good news for my brother. he is a bit scared of these stories :D
was the only time i've ever wished i had earplugs at a gig.
me and my friend didn't know whether to laugh or cry or implode or what. i want to live in that noise.
I never wanted it to end.
the last 20 minutes hurt, but it was so so so so so so so so so so so good
and the loudest gig I have ever been to,
but... the extreme distortion sort of ruined it at times, and as robin pointed out up there^ at times it was difficult to make out what song they were playing. MBV always used to be about making beautiful melodies out of incredible noise, and the melody part got lost tonight.
... GOES TO...!
Seriously, I am gripped about seeing them on Sunday - I shat my pants just hearing them through the ICA fire exit last week. But I am glad to hear someone finally provide a perspective other than "ohmigodohmigodohmigod" and "it was really loud." Well, except you did the latter, too.
i really thought there would be a 'how dissapointing were mbv' thread... i got so irritated that i couldn't hear any vocals. i mean i know they are meant to be set back but you couldn't hear a word. as someone who knows every song inside out, to not know what is playing tells you that the sound guy got it wrong. they had a simple job as far as i'm concerned and they got it wrong. i'm annoyed by the whole thing.
some of it was fantastic though. and my ears are screaming at me. you could tell the people who'd been at the gig on the tube home as they were shouting to the person sitting next to them. the holocaust was close to frightening - the closest thing to what one must sound like. even with fingers in ears for most of it it was still so powerful. like standing behind a jet engine taking off. it actually made my eyes water.
I thought it was good, but kevin shields vocal weren't switched on which started to annoy me after a while. slow sounded crap as an instrumental. i walked around the hall thinking this may change things but it didn't.
don't get me wrong, it was a good gig, but i think the novelty of the volume is what people are raving over.
hopefully they will have sorted things out by tomorrow night.
english = second language
and I could see the sound guy's digital decibel meter. It read 128.9 dB during the last bit, which is apparently equivalent to a jet taking off, IN YOUR FACE!!!
i've never heard anything like the last 20mins of that set in my life. Everything was shaking with the loudness, it was beginning to cross over from being just sound.
Other people that were there tonight, please re-assure me that you now have a sound like a car alarm going off in your head! I've had ringing in my ears before, but never this...
and it sounds like I'm listening to everything underwater.
Ce n'est pas bon.
really looking forward to the Saturday gig. I've got my ER20s at the ready.
I've got a spare, £25, face value, email@example.com, etc.
i only said was the most beautiful thing ever... then came the NOISE.. it was incredible, you just stopped thinking.
shed a bit of a tear I was so fucking happy tonight. They met all expectations.. and surpassed them. It was too fucking brilliant for words!
I'm actually worried about my hearing and the shooting pains in my neck but it was all worth it! The holocaust drilled it home how special tonight was - i've never witnessed anything like it - and it really was like a jet taking off in your face - but with Kevin Shields being the pilot! All in all : This band are fucking awesome.
And thats an understatement.
the show was just something else, the holocaust eruption of noise was the icing on the cake, my ears are buzzing (its now 4:39, still awake)
and my ears are still ringing - plus i'm going tonight and tomorrow too. I think i may have to finally go for earplugs to avoid being deaf for the rest of my life. Serves me right for standing right in front of a speaker stack for the sonic hairdryer that was "you made me realise".
had seen them several times back in the 80s and was naturally worried that they wouldn't be as great as I remembered them, but it was like they had never been away - if anything they were better
sounded fantastic from where I was standing (to the right of the stage - didn't bother with the ear plugs) ... vocals were low in the mix as always (or rather, guitars were bloody high) but could still hear them fine
setlist was pretty much perfect - highlights included, in no particular order, You Never Should, Lose My Breath, Soon, Only Shallow, Sueisfine, Realise, Kiss, etc.
oh and that ringing in our ears that we all experienced afterwards - I'm sure I always used to get that at most gigs I went to 20 years ago ... makes me wonder if bands have just got quieter over the years (more likely, I've got deafer)
really looking forward to Sunday now
As I am seeing MBV tonight - would anyone be kind enough to say when MBV came on (and finished) last night as I have to catch trains and stuff home and this would give me an idea of which ones I can aim for.
I saw MBV at Reading Uni and it was like standing under Concorde taking off.
Sounds from these postings that nothing has changed.
I assume this will be recorded for a live album?
This would be the quickest way to get new MBV recordings!!!
and off about 10:45. they were meant to be on 9:00 to 10:30.
Reading Uni gig too, if it was the one where Welfare Heroine supported. Nothing has changed (which is a good thing).
the spectacle of the whole thing was immense. The last 20 mins was just a haze of survival, the noise was literally breathtaking. Ears are ringing much louder than usual, but it's the loudest thing i've ever heard...agree with the Dinosaur Jr comment!
Bobby Gillespie was soaking the noise up too.
Marvelous, and definitely with of those gigs you'll forever hark back to.
hearing about all the volume stories, but nevertheless i cant bloomin' wait for tonight.
The free earplugs is a nice touch as well.
and have handfuls of tickets they can't sell.
Can someone tell me this is true, please?
there seemed to be loads of spare tickets... i ended up having one as well!
Ears still fucked but thats the beauty of it! I had my earplugs (was right in front of the right hand speaker stack going mental) but i figured I've waited so long to hear/see MBV live fuck the earplugs!!
Except the setlist:
When You Sleep
You Never Sshould
When You Wake
Lose My Breath
I Only Said
Come In Alone
Nothing Much to Lose
To Here Knows When
Blown a Wish
Feed Me With Your Kiss
Sue is Fine
You Made Me Realise
which means we should get honey power tonight. ace.
did you get any good photos? or did you just go to enjoy it?
but i love them so much its worth the ACTUAL pain I'm in... a gig too far perhaps without the plugs... ooops!
Want to go again godammit - the first time can't be the last!! :(
Shots up on DiS soon hopefully, in the meantime a few shots here:
but DEAR GOD THEY WERE LOUD. I was standing a good 10-15 metres away from the speakers and I could feel my teeth vibrating. Shame about the inaudible vocals, but what an experience in any case. The Loveless songs were just something else.
Loved it. Was quite pissed so some of it was a bit of a blur. Will drink less tonight and remember more hopefully.
Went without earplugs and ears are ringing away now. Will put them in tonight methinks.
Outrageously good. It almost doesn't sink in that it was actually happening, until Only Shallow hits and it's just... well... euphoric.
My ears hurt.
scenes from the crowd:
i didn't take my camera, so apologies for the crappy phone-cam pics.
they had a pretty light show too:
I WANT TO GO AGAIN
I don't love MBV but they blew me away (quite quite literally). The sound was phenomenal. The bass at times rivalled the most intense i've experienced at FWD (and the Big Apple party in Vauxhall last December). Obviously you couldn't have the whole gig at the volume of the wall of noise, but if you ask me in general it was as ALL gigs should be. Music is a physical thing and it's amazing feeling yourself pummelled by waves of sound! Leave the earplugs at home, I didn't use them. Ears stopped ringing about 5 mins after the gig and no probs today.
on bass weight as they say!
it only took one not-even-that-loud gig for my ears to go from normal to the point of no return. now my ears ring all the time and i flinch whenever somebody knocks their fork on their plate.
has a good point. It's a fallacy that going to loud gigs causes a steady decline in hearing ability - what seems to happen frighteningly often is that you'll be fine for ages, ears ring after a gig maybe but you only for a little while and then BAM, its one gig too many, and your hearings gone/you've got tinitus for ever.
Oppenheimer watching the first atomic bomb test during those last 20 minutes. It was just that overwhelming and physical. Difficult to wrap my head around .
I'm very happy I had the earplugs in.
it was a spectacle
The ICA was great but last night was something else. They play so much better than 16 years ago too. There is no I can do tonight without earplugs in!
It seemed to be over so quickly.
My right ear is suffering :(
The man stood in front of me smelled like cat food.
Call me old fashioned, actually don't, but I like to have a bit of a mosh at a gig. I was quite surprised that people didn't dance to Soon and Feed Me With Your Kiss, surely 2 out of 4 of MBV's most danceable tracks. I was mainly at the front, on Bilinda's side and I thought her vocals were reasonably clear throughout, Kevin's were pretty rubbish though. Maybe he has lost his voice, maybe the sound guy had an off day. I remember seeing The Pixies back in the day and was hugely disappointed with Gigantic cos Kim Deal's vocals were abysmal but strangely 15 or so years later at T in the Park they were extraordinarily good again.
It was great to start with Only Shallow and about 5 or 6 songs in I was absolutely transported back to 1988/89. They were great, great times musically and culturally in this country. MBV, The Pixies, The House of Love, Dinopsaur Jr, The Sugarcubes, Happy Mondays, Public Enemy, The Stone Roses were all amazing but the biggest phenomenon was definitely acid house and you could feel the difference on the streets and the terraces where all of a sudden everyone was taking e and people were not fighting any more. I was probably alone on this one but I did actually want to hug everyone around me at that point.
Was it me or did they do a bootleg/remix of a few of their own songs. I was absolutely convinced that Slow had more than a few elements of Soft As Snow But Warm Inside in it and there were at least a couple of other examples I can't remember.
The big disappointment for me was You Made Me Realise. It just didn't sound as good as it should and as for that 20 minute next to a jet engine cacophany at the end, well, I actually like my ears thank you very much. My girlfriend was chatting to an Irish lad who had flown over for the gig and he was even more damning than me about that bit out in the beer garden. There were a good 150 people out there too.
All in all though it was a great night, often seeing a band playing after so many years is a damp affair but MBV have lost absolutely nothing whatsoever. I implore everyone to go and there were plenty of people outside the venue and in the Enterpirse across the road, non touts, selling tickets at face value or less. 9/10
crank it right up to 11 after about 3 songs in ?
I enjoyed the show, though i think the ICA was better
know that ringing in your ears ? that's your eardrum cells dying. permanently. fact !
it got progressively louder as the set went on. it was actually pretty cool.
I was sans ear-plugs last Saturday and with last night and when I took them out a few times it seemed louder (I guess the difference between having them in should be factored in)
With them in the vocals where audible when they should have been.
My ears stopped ringing on Wednesday those who are suffering.
Not religious experience awesome, but
pretty fucking great. So glad I had earplugs. I had to cover my ears as well at the end.
was 23 minutes tonight. and louder. fuck.
I clocked it at 29
But by that point I'd forgotten my own name so I could be wrong
incredible gig, not religious. Was pretty weird when they started: knew they were going to play 'Only Shallow' and loved it, but the sound was so loud and not quite right...a bit of a mess. Seemed to get louder and clearer throughout the night, which was wicked.
Still amazing, best £26 I've ever spent - even with good earplugs 'You Made Me Realise' was such an intense experience.
Great band, perhaps the greatest of bands. Still feeling pretty high from the whole experience, which must be a testament to it all.
So, I'm guessing, ATP - Minehead, May, 2009 - My Bloody Valentine curating. Surely?
very good. i enjoyed myself man, but yeah quite loud innit. glad i had some earplugs, though they were giving them at the door and they were quite good.
i saw fran from travis and kate nash. lol.
I thought I saw Kate Nash on her phone outside Chalk Farm after the gig. HOT.
but when offered one of those weird envelope pack things she uttered "NO FANKZ" in her annoying north london drawl and that takes away any points she has.
I was outside the Sainsburys and I tried giving her the eyes. Epic Fail.MBV have turned my ears into jelly. I only put my earplugs in for the last 10 minutes, but I took them out after a while and was shocked at the volume I was dealing with for so long. Fuck you London crowds to begin with, but OK once they got into it. I am off to the 24 hour pub. Huzzah.
i saw someone who i thought looked a bit familiar in the monarch before the gig. i think it was you. was it you? i think it was.
im sorry, im awful at being vaguely sociable! hope you had a good time!
was so grateful for my ER20s tonight.
Felt a bit sorry for those without. It's weird; more people need to know that the right earplugs don't decrease your appreciation of the music.
i've got the same earplugs and they made the gig sound very good indeed. i took them out for a second and it was just painful.
I tried to explain it last night to someone who didnt know them. Nearest I could get was it was like watching clouds gathering to a thunderstorm, only thru the medium of incredibly loud rock music.
Funnily nuff, we were outside, and there was amazing clouds and, when I finished my cloudy rant, all we could see was people taking pictures of the clouds.
Which proved my point, sort of.
Anyway awesome awesome clouds and truly amazing lightning. I am tempted to go again on monday.
And, if you havent and you are wondering if it is worth the effort/money.....
It SO fucking is.
And you will regret it if you don't. but only forever
would you wear shades at the Tate Modern?
would you shovel down a Big Mac before a Michelin starred meal?
so earplugs are kind of stupid
it is SUPPOSED to be that loud. in case you hadnt worked it out,
volume + feedback + yr hearing + acoustics of room = the canvas on which they apint their art.
couldnt hear the vocals indeed.
the Bon Jovi show is over the road, bitches
that the paintings in the Tate Modern don't destroy your eyes...
i have tinnitus ALREADY, i'd rather not make it worse thankyouverymuch.
I stood with a mate who reckonned it wasn't that loud (!) and gave his ear plugs to some other (significantly younger) punter with his fingers in his ears!!
It was loud - very very loud, and I know it's meant o be loud but sound at that volume and intensity is not for everyone and with ear plugs the experience was more comfortable.
I remember the last time I saw MBV at Reading uni and I was disorientated from it being so loud. I kept hold of more brain cells this time around.
Fair dos - I'd experienced that full on assualt once before I was pleased to be able to experience being under the flight path on concorde taking off with ear plugs this time.
At Reading uni all those yars ago, I didn't really understand the context and importance of MBV (how could I really?).
Watching a show this time - it was pretty much as I remembered the live show - except the sound was probably more refined in its terrorising volume and the visuals were better.
It was still a hell of an experience being subjected to You Made Me Realise, and Slow was magificent and Feed Me With your Kiss was stunning (an earplug flew out during this one - lucky I had a spare!)
Spectrum did a few Spacemen 3 songs and were pretty good. But MBV were just superb.
It's a shame this won't translate to a live CD - you just have to be there.
this post (thebigmusic) made me laugh - especially that last line. Word brother!
I have ER20 earplugs...but i still took them out!! ;D
(I am paying for it though..!)
maybe even very good.
certainly not incredible by any means. too much backing track, which was out of time at points, started off WAY too quiet, got to the perfect volume after the best songs had been played.
noise out at the end was impressively loud and pretty awesome, but they could've actualy done something with it beyond just making a loud noise and glowering.
and i head rouhly 20 seconds or vocals all night, which isn't too cool
overall probably worth £25 to see, but i wont be going back liek
how bad was that song with the acoustic guitar? really bad.
how sad was i that they didn't play Sometimes?
a bit sad.
they've ever played Sometimes.
and considering that all of the synths were on the backing track, it probably would have been pretty shit
got a setlist from Saturday? They seemed to play a few different ones than Friday (then again, i was a lot more intoxicated on Friday).
If the decibels were near to 130 according to this http://www.industrialnoisecontrol.com/comparative-noise-examples.htm that is the equivalent of "Military jet aircraft take-off from aircraft carrier with afterburner at 50 ft (130 dB)."
.....so pretty loud and people probably should be waering ear plugs!
they played Cigarette In My Bed and Come In Alone which they didn't do at the ICA last Saturday, but we didn't get Lose My Breath.
Does anyone else think the holocaust moment was nearer 25 minutes last night?
26 Minutes - 23 of which were "the holocaust moment" - I was sad and timed it.
but not brilliant. Some of it is was spectacular like I only said and To here knows when and Soon sounded brilliant and lovely. But I found towards the end of my set my attention was waning and for the 'holocaust' at the end I wasn't that impressed. There seemed to be no evolution, and it was way too long. My older brother nearly collapsed about a minute before it finished so I had to escort him to the side. And my left ear cannot stop ringing.
soon is definitely my least favourite track on loveless, but live it really really worked
found the perfect place to watch from, just behind the sound desk. the sound levels were perfect and JUST loud enough, and with kevin shields' weird stance it meant you could see all the band perfectly.
took about 25 minutes to get out as I used the cloakroom which was pretty grr, and some tool parading a setlist around annoyed me, as if a list of songs PRINTED on a piece of paper meant anything.
Im so thankful for the free earplugs, as they were actually pretty good, and their didnt seem to be too much ringing in my ears this morning. I took them out for about 5 seconds during the 'holocaust' and it was just terrifying, but amazing.
During Only Shallow you could barely hear Belinda's vocals but progressively got more clearer as the set went on. For the most part of the set the sound was perfect from where i was stood.
Next time i will see them will be at Bestival where im interested to see how they will pull that off at a festival and what the crowds reaction will be.
i would love to see them produce 128dB. I was thinking I've seen the loudest of the loud...
Earth (performing Earth2 in 2003)
Melvins (plying Lysol)
Part Chimp... etc...
now i wish I had bought me a MBV ticket.
in this thread. earplugs in, i'd say the gig was a solid 9/10 on a scale of 1 to 10 in terms of loudness - the vocals sound clearer, the whole experience was incredible for me. don't worry, you'll still get to say you were there and it was really loud. you also get to walk all the way up to the front as there's a massive exodus of wallies running for the exits, fingers in ears.
i wish i was feeling a bit better for it but i enjoyed it hugely (thanks to the man who gave me half his water when i came down with stomach cramps). if it didn't cost as much to come up from Brighton i'd do another night of it.
'Sometimes' would have been welcome as well.
i don't think they've ever played Sometimes live. it's certainly not on any of the bootlegs I've seen from the tours around Loveless.
would have been even more welcome then.
i forgot to say i'm fairly sure i sat opposite Alan McGee on the train back to Brighton - weird to say the least.
allowed to move around to disturb the crowd or band - so you either have to stay where you are sitting down on the barrier or photograph on your knees (so not stand up and move about too much).
Makes it a little difficult but completely fair do's!
why doesn't anyone call it the holochord? can i have a job now?
you are teeny anyway, could you just walk around?
another stunning display and possibly even better than the ICA. They mixed up the setlist too, opening with I Only Said.
as it made Only Shallow an even nicer treat.
The late-middle section of To Here Knows When, Soon, Feed Me With Your Kiss and something else sandwiched in between was the definition of sublime.
Have to say, too, that it WASN'T as much an assault on my ears as I expected. I actually took out my specially-bought earplugs for a gorgeous No More Sorry 5 or so tracks in and didn't put them back in until they kicked in to You Made Me Realise (which was genuinely quite indescribably loud).
Shields' vocals were ropey at times, but the soaring melodies were somehow kept intact pretty much throughout - Blown A Wish, Come in Alone, THKW were all pristine.
MBV were pretty good, didn't like the use of sequenced and sampled stuff, but still. The holocust in you made me realise was like lying on a train track and having a train rush over your head for half an hour. Also belinda <3
for that you'll never ever get her.
take the free earplugs...and if you think it's getting too much put them in.
I thought last night was magical but how anyone can withstand the 'Holocaust' without earplugs is beyond me... ;) As soon as it started I put mine in.... I'm sooooo glad I did.
So many people around me didn't have them in and by the end were either holding their heads or walking out. You could see those people with earplugs in checking to make sure they were in, such was the volume...
It was just an amazing evening. It felt like I was witnessing the end of the world........
you got No More Sorry?
Looking forward to Manchester now!
It was Lose My Breath, not No More Sorry.
Better flog that ticket, I guess.
I thought it was absolutely brilliant, though 'that moment' was a real test of endurance.
But strangely, unlike when I've seen other bands I really revere who've gotten back together, it didn't really feel 'magical' for me in a cliched kind of sense. It was still a real spectacle (I thought the visuals were incredible as an accompaniment) and an experience I'm overjoyed I had.
of the greatest experiences of my life, and they played nearly everything I wanted them to (although I could have done with Soft As Snow).
My nose was wobbling during the holocaust, I thought it was going to explode!
The holocaust = intense brilliance.
And why didn't I know about it??
does anyone know the stage times for graham coxon and mbv tonight?
also how long do they tend to play for before they kick into 'you made me realise'?
Sueisfine has been the penultimate tune every night. So once that's done, get your plugs in!
I think the key here is you didn't know what to expect.
I went expecting noise and even raggedness, but I was truly struck with how, amid the sturm and drang, the beauty was intact.
I get the impression you were expecting maybe something closer to the records.
I think what they did was add a new, human, flawed dimension to the records. And that's what I found so exhilarating because, without sounding like a soft shite, I hadn't in all these years imagined there was anything they could add they hadn't slaved for weeks and months to already add themselves.
which I think answers the question "why did you bother yourself to go?"
They had probably more than double the amps they did on the Friday.
The 'holocaust' was almost coma-enducingly loud, I felt like I was in some kind of trance. Amazing.
anyone know who's supporting tonight?
I can't really arsed to go but I've just checked and I paid over £60 for two tickets so I suppose I should make the effort.
I bet the box office is closed for ticket collection by the time I get there and all!
I Only Said
When You Sleep
When You Wake
You Never Should
Lose My Breath
Come In Alone
Nothing Much to Lose
To Here Knows When
Blown a Wish
Feed Me With Your Kiss
Sue is Fine
You Made Me Realise
yesterday, and I've never experienced anything like it. I don't know how anyone could face that without earplugs it was like being in a hurricane, the sound seemed transformed into a physical force. Fucking unbelievable. Best gig of my life. Surprised that is legal.
but that is just meaningless drivel. Why would he get paid to write it?
isn't it, at, best, rather laughable that Fargo feels s/he has the authority to make statements like "noen in the history of MBV live shoews ever heard any vocals... you don't know MBV at all if you are saying this"
"reading your words from a MBV fan is really frustrating...
MBV have always played like that...
The only bad thing about these shows were the ignorant people that knew nothing about the band and were there only to jump!"
when other posters give their reactions to the gig - despite being only six years old the last time MBV played live.
joeymahone the web is full of MBV reviews of their early shows, so why these 'young' people don't go and read these reviews? The 'real fan' doesn't need to be 40, and i'm sure none of us is over 30.
I was ten or 11 when Loveless came out and i would never speak like some of you have done because what someone wrote means that they have no idea who MBV are and what shoegaze is.
The vocals have always been mixed down in the background of the sound stage, making the words almost undecipherable. In the early shows Anna Quimby used to play the flute to reproduce the very high guitar frequency kevin couldn't reproduce live for really simple reason like that they didn't have enough money to buy decent gears that flute used to be more dominating than the vocals. The songs do not develop towards a climax this is why someone defined MBV noise as 'introvert', but repeat patterns over and over. The drums often have sixteenth note fills, but without the usual climatic function of the fill. Many interwoven sounds are present at the same time. Nothing is spoken out loud, there isn't a particular instrument that calls for attention. everything is layered and blurred.
If you have ever read anything about MBV you know that they used to suffer from insomnia and Loveless has been strongly influenced by Hypnogogia that is a mental state that you can experience just before sleep. It is very spiritual music and i cannot feel like jumping and screaming 'is gonna be crazy' like someone behind me was doing.
How can you?
I agree with Fargo, most of the 'young' people here went to see them because of the hype or because was something cool to do, not because of the music.
given that both of them spelled "daft" as "deft" in recent posts. Which would mean that saying "I agree with fargo" is basically the equivalent of JAGing your own comments on the messageboard. Roffle.
I was noting the distinctly odd style
Well done on proving me wrong.
I went - twice - because of the music, and as far as I'm concerned the experience I had is no less valid because I didn't spend the two weeks before the gig studying Colm O'Ciosoig's drum patterns or reading about the time Kevin Shields had a bit of trouble getting to sleep.
This bullshit about needing prior knowledge to get the benefit of a cultural experience is what puts people off classical concerts or visual art, and to see it imported into discussions of popular music is both laughable and troubling.
Loved the gig.
Wore ear plugs.
Aged over thirty.
Stood near-ish the back.
You just made me an easy £10. Pseuds Corner here I come.
I realsied I didn't pot this if anyones interested.
A 30 minute video of the beginnning of 20/06/08.
I'm uploading a better quality version today which you'll find on the last.fm page.
you fucking legend.
this is so good
cheers guys. it was one good thing about getting a seated ticket i suppose. i'll try get that better quality up tonight.
white wee wee.
to the right of him
with the fingers in ears is amazing.