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Dear Franz Ferdinand,

I recently came by your latest single, 'Do You Want To', in my mail. Initially I was shocked - who would have thought you'd want _me_ to have a sneak preview of your forthcoming second album to call my own? - but after a clutch of listens my mood has shifted from one of optimism to something rather less savoury.

Please, give me back the three minutes and thirty-eight seconds I spent listening to the aforementioned. I'll forego the repeat encounters.

I understand you have an audience to placate, really I do - throughout school I would always stick to the straight and narrow path of behavioural mediocrity to satisfy my parents' desire for me to at least achieve something - but this is nonsense, isn't it? Really, Franz Ferdinand, all you've done is taken half an idea and flogged it out 'til you reached a radio-friendly length. Said idea isn't even that great - 'Take Me Out' this most certainly isn't - and the least you could do is pronounce "want to" properly. It comprises fifty per cent of your song's title, you know.

Again, I do understand your need to have someone love you - indeed, you stress it with your very first line - but this isn't the right way to go about things. It's beyond simple laziness: this is hackneyed to the point where people will actively stop wanting to love you. No longer will they come and dance with you, Michael.

I know I have fallen out of love, and I am sure I am not alone. I would return this abomination to the point of purchase if I had attained it through such channels; as I have not, I will consign it to the top shelf alongside other, now dusty, disappointments. See: most of the bands you were meant to be a superior take on.

Yours with an unsettling queasiness,

MD

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Well said Diver.

I think this is pretty piss poor. It sounds strangely wierd, as if its off some kids TV show for the under tens. They have become something of a pastiche of themselves.

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I like it.

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Time for the Franz backlash already?

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I think the single and new album are both brilliant pop records. Dare i say it... better than the first!

It seems we put these people on pedestals, only to knock them off!

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well it certainly doesn't match up to anything of the first album, thats for sure - here's hoping the album does

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I like this review a lot, and find it very amusing. I see where Mike's coming from here but don't agree. For one thing I've had the song replaying in my head for days, always a good sign for a pop record.

To put in context, I'm somebody who likes the first album but didn't expect the follow-up to be any more than a poorer rehash of the debut.

I've not heard the album but I am actually enthused by the quality of "Do You Want To?"

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I really really hate this song, it's obnoxious and not even catchy. A pop song without a hook is fairly pointless.

never really liked them much anyway, but I did like one song on the album - This Boy.

Uhm.. that was it really.

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How can you say it's not catchy? The bloody thing won't leave me alone *sob*

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It's a grower. Not sure about the album yet, needs to sink in more.

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"It's a growler"

Yup, a dirty stinkin' one, too.

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Didn't that happen in 1984?
We don't do backlash, they don't work so well with our back slashes.

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Nonsense, this is fantastic... its the best single they've had since Take Me Out.
Can't wait for the album now!

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it's always the way though
surely only mock surprise can be seen now?
nobody's dumb enough to actually be surprised by anything any more

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Sorry to be a pedant but shouldn't the title have a question mark at the end?

And I like the song...a bit.

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You'd think so.
But it does not.

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What a shit review, though I suppose not surprising coming from Mike Diver.

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Meh. ive heard half of it, though i doubt the rest would be any different. Its good for pop music, better than most crap in the charts. But its still crap.

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No offence but, that's a pretty shite review compared with your others.

You talk about them taking a different 'radio friendly' path of writing songs... but all the tracks on the debut were possible singles (except 40').

Plus, do you not thing a fan of the band maybe should have reviewed it? You obviously dislike Franz, so people who want to know what other people think about it are just gonna find someone who dislikes the band, slagging the song off.

'No longer will they come and dance with you Michael.'

Come on! That's NME ammo.

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i like this song... franz ferdinand is not as bad as critics/indie snobs make them out to be :(

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BAH! Wasnae gonna say owt, but...

"You talk about them taking a different 'radio friendly' path of writing songs"

No I didn't. I just said that they've stretched a single idea over three-and-something minutes, thus making it radio friendly. No comment was passed on previous potential radio smashes. (As I agree: much of the first record was suitably FM friendly.)

"do you not thing a fan of the band maybe should have reviewed it?"

I like the first record, and the singles from it (okay, 'Darts Of Pleasure' is a bit shit). This, though, is just poor. Really.

"Come on! That's NME ammo."

This I don't get - are we shooting at a magazine?

Yours,
MD

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This is crap. It hasn't progressed at all. Then again, I wasn't expecting it to

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I think it pretty much does what it says on the tin

Whether or not this is a good thing given the context, I'm not sure

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Who is the person on the cover? Every time I see it I keep thinking it's Alan Partridge.

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The 'Lucky, Lucky' section of the song sounds as if it is delivered by a dribbling paedophile...I find the whole record desperate, classless, and worst of all...FUCKING ANNOYING. For me there is no redeeming feature...This song is remedial.

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I love this record.

But seriously, the Franz backlash has kicked in all over the place in earnest hasn't it? I'm not referring to this review - he didn't like it, fair enough - but suddenly I keep reading that they're too cynical... calculated... 'planned'... mechanic.

What? It's pop music. Get over it.

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if the articles on this website were written by fans of the according artist, then most of the reviews would be positive; thus creating a dull reading experience and a complete lack of variation in scores.

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i've never liked franz, and would be enormously happy if i was never subjected to 'take me out' ever again.

BUT

i reeeeally like this single. it's dumb and ridiculous, but great fun.

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I agree, It's dumb and ridiculous...
I really don't think it's a case of 'Franz backlash time', I just think they've released a geniunely terrible record...They've taken their ''Pop'' infatuation/experiment a step too far and have made cheesy slab of indie-agadoo.

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It's not too bad, it will do it's job. It will sell albums to people who only hear popular music and it will get played in indie clubs until cos everyone knows it and you can dance to it. If they weren't already famous no one would even try to judge it as anything more.

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I like it. Somebody said that it doesnt have a hook. I think thats fairly ridiculous, given that the majority of the song is just the hook replayed over and over again. And it is bloody well catchy. Take Me Out isn't exactly a challenging piece of music, but it's still pop genius. This isn't up to the same standard but its still good pop. Give me this over Amerie or fuckin Sean "The Cunt" Paul any day.

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well i think it's fairly ace.

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I agree with the stretched out quality it has. Its catchy, yes, and parts are good but i still think it seems to have been rushed. Whereas songs like "take me out" and "darts of pleasure" you could notice the time and effort put into them.

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i CAN see why people think this is a very calculated/mechanic etc record. cos i think it is. but as you say - it's pop music!

i bet they've read 'the manual'.

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Good review its awful

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Its Take me out mixed with Fred Said Fred's left over synth lines. Simply lazy.

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I thought it was more "I'm horny, horny horny horny" than Right Said Fred.

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KLF are gonna rock you...

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yeah... good one... (?!)

anyway moving swiftly on the single is pretty rubbish but the video is rather mega if a little unnerving x

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i think this song works really well in indie clubs - which is what it is designed for - but much like thier first album to me it lacks the touch of soul and meaning which would make me want to listen to it for pleasure.
Also they have been dreadfull on all thier 'live' tv appearences - esp jonathan ross.

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I don't know wether I hate or love it.

Maria x

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Me too. I can't get it out of my head and it makes me smile. Job well done Franz...

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Does it being in your head make it good though?

The Rasmus' awful 'In The Shadows' gets stuck in my head, but as a piece of music it's shit.

Girls Aloud's take on 'Jump' got caught up in my head a while back, but that, too, is far from worthy of critical praise.

'Toxic' is something of an anomoly.

This is catchy, sure, but so's flu. It may stick in the head, granted, but so do kitchen knives if you stab them into your temple enough times.

Repetition breeds this addiction; if you heard it only two or three times you'd say it was shite.

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ok I'll concede that it's got a hook, just that the hook is used to gouge my earhole away and pick at my brain, it's not a pleasurable experience.

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you might aswell make the most of this single as the rest of the album takes one style and never seems to change, got to 9th song and turned it off. havent listened to it since.

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Fair point, not all catchy songs are good. I mean The Ketchup Song was recently voted the catchiest song ever by some survey or another, for Christ's sake.

However, for me, this song is quite simply good 'pop' music, no more, no less. Chances are I'll get sick of it before too long, like with the Kaiser Chiefs, but at the moment, I love it. Like I said, it makes me smile and feel like dancing, which is more than likely the effect Franz Ferdinand were hoping to have on people.

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issa tune i'm afraid.
pretty standard but by no means awful Franny Pudding.

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its fucking great! jesus what is MD on about?!?!

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*asks Jesus*
Jesus: "Don't ask me, man, I'm dead."

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Go West - We Close Our Eyes. Just listen to it.

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Who put them on a pedestal? Surely you mean the gutter, no?

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Only the mentally ill could possibly not want to top themselves after listening to this.

Franz fans are idiots. It's official.

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It's matey from FF.org innit.

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I think it's great. Who else can have a good jeer at the fame game without coming off as whiny AND make you want to dance? It's the usual indie-fascism of not liking stuff that's got popular. Grow up.

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So if you're lonely...

This is okay. It's not great. Student dacefloor filler. Which is fine by me, because I'll only be hearing it when I've had FAR too many voddy red bulls.

Just a crosshair :(

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Holy shit... after a day spent humming the two, finally they match.
You're right!

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do doo do do doodoo doodoo

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Agreed. Love the review, but it's a good pop song! Franz Ferdinand are not getting the credit they deserve for it. Sure, the lyrics don't really seem to be going anywhere and are repeated a few too may times, but it's catchy, kids will love it, and it will sell. Isn't that all it's supposed to do? Standards for pop are getting too high.

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"Only the mentally ill could possibly not want to top themselves after listening to this.

Franz fans are idiots. It's official."

So what the fuck shall we all listen to, O fantastic one???

Mxx

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Some very good point in this review.

But i like this song : dumb and fun.
It sure ain't no art, but it makes me smile. Which is what FF usually do to me.

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I can't tell whether I like this or loathe it. I think I'll have to nothing it.

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It sounds like the Kinks if they were a Franz Ferdinand tribute band.

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Not completly true...

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I wanted to just post "doo doo doooo do do do doo-doo" but someone beat me to it. Better say something clever then. Here goes;

This is a great pop song which won't change your life, stop being an indy snob and slagging them off just because they've been embraced by the mainstream.

That said; you do have a point by saying that it's just one killer hook repeated, with some other less-good bits to make it a song. But it's a killer hook, and this is a dance-pop record, so get used to it. It's not my bag either, really, but I can admire it for what it is and it's bloody catchy. Remember "Take Me Out" was really just "der der da-der der derr" so it doesn't make any difference if this is just "doo doo doooo do do do doo-doo".

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I agree
I was so looking forward to the new album but after hearing this, I'm not sure I am any more
Very disappointing

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It's a great song. If you sad fucks were American, you'd appreciate what you've got, but you're not, so fuck off. Mike Diver is a dumbass. Anyone who doesn't like it is a dumbass. And stop using the 'c--t' word, it's offensive and unpleasant and shows you for the powdery-hair poofs that you are.

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I loved Franz Ferdinand's first album. LOVED it. I went to see them five times in a year, every time they came near I saw them. I bought the T-Shirt and everything. I am, I suppose, 'a fan'.

However, this single is utter, utter shite. It doesn't really have anything to GRAB me, it's just...well, not as good as previous things they've done. It's a shame.

Oh, and people: keep using the word 'cunt' please. It's a brilliant word and doesn't get used enough. You cunts.

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The FF fans seem to have been split in two. The fans who can accept that this is terrible and the fans who will defend any piece of shite franz pull out of their arses to the death; saying, "you just don't like it because they've become popular".

wrong.

i don't like it because it sounds like a lazy band taking the piss. let's face it, they've been pretty popular for quite a while, it didn't stop me thinking Matinee and Michael were 'okay'.

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"Mike Diver is a dumbass"

Yup.

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What's a dumbass ?

Sounds like a strange animal...

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i thought this was a very very weak single, quite surprising choice to be honest

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Doesn't bode well for the next Maximo Park record then, does it?

'Walk Away' is the plushest thing ever though. Ever.

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ive never been a huge fan of ff but i really like this song...theres not much to it but its catchy. i dont know about the new album but i bloody like this song.

maybe mike diver wasnt the right person to review it. he quite clearly dislikes anything that sells more then a few hundred copies. he probably thinks he's being original by slaughtering this song

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"maybe mike diver wasnt the right person to review it. he quite clearly dislikes anything that sells more then a few hundred copies. he probably thinks he's being original by slaughtering this song."

Don't be stupid.
I love music that's made with love, with care and passion.
I loathe the lazy and dull, the uninspired and the bland.
This = lazy and dull, uninspired and bland.
Most of the albums I own have sold more than a few hundred copies.

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To me, whenever I see them performing on the TV they look like they know they're taking the piss and finding the whole thing pretty amusing.

As for the single..it's OK, preferred the first stuff but was never mad keen. meh, as they say on t'internet

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This song is SO annoying.

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If we 'sad fucks' were imperialists, opps I mean americans, we'd have bigger issues to address than which bands we like you c--t. I assume I can use the edited version?

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Funny - I started off liking this song then I started to hate it but it's now come full circle and I like it again...

Also had a naughty listen of the new album and personally I reckon it's better than the first album - The Fallen is quite possibly the greatest thing they've put their name to thus far...

That is all

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Not their best in this album ; i can mention You're the reason i'm leaving or Well that was easy or You clould have it so much better....even Evil and a heathen.

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It sounds like Go West, dammit.

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Only good thing about Franz Ferdinand:

Outside Million Dead on Thursday I got given a condom in a card "DO YOU WANT TO" cover. Props to the Franz for the safe sex.

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hmm. the songs alright. not to sure what to make of it. musically its catchy if not particularly challenging. i think part of the success of their first album was due to it being the first record of its kind to break mainstream so it sounded so fresh.

the album itself is also interesting (again not entirely sure if i like it or not yet) and i think it might not be as easily accessible for the swathes of fans that tuned into the first album... i dunno. time will tell.

i do really agree with Parsefone - i have issues with some music fans - goths and barries are stereotypes i generally dislike. However i am quite a big indie fan and the people that piss me off the most tend to be the stereotypical 'indie kids' because as Parsefone says, there seems to be some kind of musical fascism bred into them. I despise that.

and also, Relaxer, dont be such a tit. If you want to know why people have such a generally bad view of america (which it doesnt deserve) its because of people like yourself. It may not have occured to you, but Franz Ferdinand do have a British fanbase who have posted here that they like the song. and if we were all american, then Franz wouldnt have had a country to break the big time in would they.

when did it stop being about the music man?!

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haha now there's an image.

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i like 'do you want to', its fun and everyone can have a good time to it, including the band according to the video. its a good pop song and the melody is instantly memorable. its camp, over the top, and you can dance to it. what more do you want? i agree that its a bit long and could have done without the last 45 seconds though.

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i got condoms!

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This song has tried to cram 3 eighties song into one. Is every line of the song repeated 10 times?

I liked the first album. I'll probably buy this album but I hope the other songs steer clear of this abomination.

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'i don't like it because it sounds like a lazy band taking the piss' - minus the 'lazy' part, this is exactly why I DO quite like it. pisstaking is good. hmm.

Filthy!

Should be ashamed of yourself, Diver!

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