Sex Pistol John Lydon to Star in 'I'm a Celebrity...'?!!?

If ever there was a prime example of the definition of Sell-Out...

if i had this on my telly this could be a guilty pleasure of mine. eep

Damn. I hate reality shows but I would have to watch that.

Unless theres some kind of reason for this, like killing peter andre and ant and dec, it's ruined everything.
Prehaps its only now that punk is truly dead?

Id like to see Lydon in the jungle. He'll be hilarious. He'll have a field day with those lot.
Yeah and Tony Blackburn's career has exploded hasnt it, after he sold out. A voice over here a voice over there :P

And since when has rugby been the domain of the middle class and nobody else? Perhaps English rugby especially since the World Cup victory but it's also a Welsh institution in many areas of social deprivation and societal breakdown. There, defence of rugby over...

Sorry John, I think you're fabulous but you are playing their game, no matter how much you complain about it. Does he have motives? Come on, how the fuck does one smash the system and get at the man by appearing on a bullshit tropical parlour game with a woman with ludicrous fake tits (Jordan), another woman with tits that might be fake (Kerry McFadden) and a man whi is simply just a tit (Peter Andre)?

And what grounds does he have for calling Jordan an idiot? 'Ah, you slag Jordan, you do anything for a bit of publicity'... hmm, like spend time out in a tropical island for a bollocks game show eh John? Jordan gets to take shit for being a dippy bint with false tits, at least as much criticism as John. By reducing him down to their cheap celeb level, he's acting no better than they are. At least Phil Tufnell was fucking honest about haivng a laugh. There, conclusive proof that cricket is more punk rock than punk rock.

Who's John Lydon?

Is he that sad washed-up c*nt who was once in a gloriously over-rated band and is still obsessed with his own self-importance?

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Smash the system?
You can't smash something that's so ingrained in reality, but what you can do, if you're clever, is provoke thoughts and inspire people to do unusual and wonderful things. For me, Punk was all about taking ideas, violating them, and making something fresh out of what was already there.
What people misunderstand is that, like a band like Slipknot, they took teenage rebellion and took the piss out of it by being tripley extreme - much like Brass Eye as our modern day equivilant of punk rock. Now Lydon is going to go on a show like this and hopefully be three times as seething-for-societies-blood as the likes of old-codgers like Billy Bragg.
Choosing not to abuse the media spectacle would of been truly un-punk rock and proof all that it stood for was dead. And taking the money for something you're good at (being a media icon) is hardly the least punk thing in the world. What he spends it on, now that's another matter. But was punk about communism?

But is anyone going to bet on him?

I'll bet he just comes across as a grumpy ol' sod. It would be cool if he was doing it to wind peple up, tho'.

What I meant by nu-rugby, Dr. Furry, is that now the Manics look like chubby Cardiff rugby boys, the same sort who go out for beers, chips in Caroline st. and finish off the evening wih a punch up... i.e. everything that the eye-liner'd fey Manic Street Preachers hated about Wales. OK...it is just an image... but it's so true that a band that set out to be the new Clash ended up a billion times more MOR than the likes of Blur, Radiohead... VERY ironic. I'm welsh, and one thing I fuckin hate, when go back, is the way that the Manics, Stereophonics and Catatonia are allowed to get away with frequent bland crapness just because they're local. I hope the emo metallers Funeral for A Friend and Lost Prophets are accorded the same bias...at least they ROCK.

Well personally i can't wait, one can always depend on John Lydon to say something hilarious.

And Caroline Street is a great place, many nights have i spent queing for a Tony's Kebab, and i don't even like rugby. Shame it's all getting trendified and is on the way out. They may take our Chippy Lane, but they'll never take our Clarksies!

Sellout? The pistols were in it for the fucking money all along. Hence the 'Ever feel like you've just been cheated' comment. Try and keep up girls.

Are you suggesting that you can't alter the system a little and bring new things into it? No you aren't and of course you can and Lydon was part of that movement. I wouldn't ever suggest that one band can 'smash the system', I admit my usage of that phrase was a trifle overeasy and open to interpretation. I'll ask you just how exactly you think John is going to violate the idea of I'm A Celebrity... and inspire people to do something new. It's a piece of shit TV, nothing good will come out of it.

The pop at Billy Bragg is way below the belt. Bragg has stuck his flag behind various organisations and played a hell of a lot more charity and benefit gigs than Lydon ever has, be they in support of the Liverpool dockers or the Anti-Nazi League. You might denounce Bragg as a Labourite stooge but he's been just as critical of Blairite policies such as the suck-up to the Yank invasion of Iraq. Bragg lives in England in a small house in Dorset: Lydon lives in America and is involved in lucrative property deals. Bragg played at some anti-US/UK coalition gigs last year: what did Lydon do? A cynical mind could say that Lydon shut his mouth and left his vocal opinions for an easier target. I fail to see how an expletive-filled rant about nonsensical celebrities in a tropical forest is nearly as worthy as a guy who is active in the political field of England and is involved with many decent events dedicated to supporting the average man. Perhaps I missed Lydon's backing on the TUC and other unions, yes? Lydon spits bile at Malcolm McLaren for the various bullshit media escapades he organised (such as Who Killed Bambi?). He spat bile at Sid for getting too into the rock star trip. But it's OK for the wealthy property man to go onto this because he's taking the piss out of it. Yeah John. Real fucking subversive.

No I don't know his motivations, hence the focus of my words focusing on why a man who has complained so vociferously about the banality of celebrity and 'false idols' sees fit to become part of the machine by taking part in this.

exactly, they knew what they were doing all along, they just filled a niche in the market and became ultrapopular as a result, at the end of the day John prob just wanted the money, i doubt any of the people posting comments such as 'sell out' would pass up the opotunity to make god knows how much from apearing on tv for a bit. back in the 'day' it was all about shock, but the truth is nothing shocks anymore, someone says fuck on tv now and grandmar keeps sipping her tea. times have changed. the sex pistols made a hell of a differnce dispite what the critics say, weather they were in it for the money or something else what counts is what was imprinted into the minds of the kids, the punks and especialy the ones with brains. i think what im trying to say is john has done whats done and now he might aswell be just another guy in the street, what he said and did all those years ago made a difference back then and still are but whatever he says and does now won't stand up. yes hes in it for the money kids, but aren't we all really, just take a look around you.

Well if you don't get it now you never will. Lydon is barely ever on TV here in the UK and I'm positive thats not due to lack of offers. If he ever was gonna do anything on TV then obviously he'd do THIS! JUST TO ANNOY PEOPLE! This is SUCH a Johnny Rotten thing to do, I think it's brilliant. Calling him sellout when he doesn't make a penny from it and is probably so famous you could talk about him to people from almost anywhere in the world. This is the punkest thing in ages!

Albert Steptoe is alive and well...now appearing on a TV screen near you!

"...Aarrold!!! There's a spider in me bed!"

John Lydon is a highly intelligent individual and will have his reasons for appearing on this tv show. Just look at the interest he has generarated on here . And to be able to give a true opinion on a reality tv show then the people that condemn it must also be viewers.
Each to his own at the end of the day....

nice silver jews quote...

...take it you're not really david berman though?

can't say I'm really into reality shows like this, but with John around, anything is interesting.

Sell Out? what sell out?...The Pistols were a sell out from the start. Not very many people seem to have got the joke...least of all those that took the punk thing seriously.

John is a star and the only thing that will make the programme intersting...with him on it, I am hooked!

Definitely the only reason to watch the programme . . .

What days though - couldn't get "Sniffin' Glue", so we'll have to go and see what's chalked on the door of the Roxy Club!

Wouldn't have missed it for the fuckin' world!