MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
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The third Muse album has been leaked, months before its release.
Music messageboards around the world yesterday lit up with folks talking about the new Muse album which was leaked by some lucky bugger who's managed to get hold of a copy of 'Absolution', months before its September release. The album was hosted on the funnyphonenumbers webserver for most of yesterday.
However, the band's management, Taste Media, and the label, East West/Warner Bros, have been quick to jump on this and it's now been taken down, the only trace of the record left on the server is a message reading...
"Unfortunately, I have had a somewhat scary e-mail from Tastemedia threatening me with legal action if I didn't remove these samples. As I am only a young boy, I can't afford any legal action and have removed the samples from my site."
Somehow, we doubt this innocence. This does mean that there are fans out there with 192kbs versions of tracks from the album on p2p networks. It's not currently known whether this will lead to a White Stripes-like change of release date. However, fans expecting to host the album on their webserver and especially the ones stupid enough to post links on the official Muse messageboard, beware. A warning from the Muse webmaster...
"Any posting of links to leaked Muse tracks from Absolution will not be tolerated. Any posts which contain such content in them will be edited or deleted. If you are seen posting links up more than once, you will be banned without warning.
Please also note that I keep a record of all the users who have posted such links and if the band, their management or their record companies request for your information, I will give it to them, be it to give you a slap on the wrists, or to sue you for every penny you have."
DiScuss: Should hosting albums become a criminal act? Does downloading a record before release, like opening Christmas pressies early, take the magic and fun out of it? If you downloaded the record, what did you think? If you download the album, would you still buy it?
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MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
I have downloaded (or copied) loads of Cd's and the ones which are great tend to be the ones that I go out and buy.
MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
Hahaha
Oh god, a threat from J! Help!
Seeing as he was one of the ones who leaked the original stream that the German record company put up, I find that "threat" quite funny myself.
It's leaked now anyway, they knew it was going to happen. Why bother?
Oh god, a threat from J! Help!
Seeing as he was one of the ones who leaked the original stream that the German record company put up, I find that "threat" quite funny myself.
It's leaked now anyway, they knew it was going to happen. Why bother?
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yeah, its all over Kazaa now. oh well
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Hahah yeah. And if it'd been leaked and he didn't have it, he'd be the one pestering everyone else for it.
It leaked weeks ago mind you. It's only just got to the point that anyone who's not someone (ooh elitism :P) can download it.
It leaked weeks ago mind you. It's only just got to the point that anyone who's not someone (ooh elitism :P) can download it.
MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
Yeh, I downloaded it a few days ago, but not from a webserver, from the newsgroups where it's been happily sitting in secret for the past couple of weeks.
MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
Muse = New Metallica?
It'd be funny if Matt B turned out to be a stupid as Lars Ulrich.
Not getting into the whole downloading (bore) music debate, do the band (read: management) think that any Muse fan who downloads the record will not be queuing up for it (with artwork) when it comes out, buying lots of t-shirts and being at every gig they play?
Muse fans are like Manics fans (read: excitable, obsessed with the band and dull) so unlikely to fuck the band over, especially the internet ones.
It'd be funny if Matt B turned out to be a stupid as Lars Ulrich.
Not getting into the whole downloading (bore) music debate, do the band (read: management) think that any Muse fan who downloads the record will not be queuing up for it (with artwork) when it comes out, buying lots of t-shirts and being at every gig they play?
Muse fans are like Manics fans (read: excitable, obsessed with the band and dull) so unlikely to fuck the band over, especially the internet ones.
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In a recent interview, Matt admitted that he downloads stuff all the time.
Incidentally, lose the indie snobbery ("I don't like this band, hence their fans are stupid/ dull/ Conservative voters/ whatever"). People don't tend to say things like that unless they're lacking in something themselves.
Incidentally, lose the indie snobbery ("I don't like this band, hence their fans are stupid/ dull/ Conservative voters/ whatever"). People don't tend to say things like that unless they're lacking in something themselves.
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the album was leaked a few days ago. Ive been told by a friend that i would like it, but icant even be arsed to steal it for free. The p2p's are the last place to get these leaks.
MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
Hmmm. Leakage.
I'm starting to think that these leaks are becoming more like an obligatory bit of free promotion.
Get the audience familiar with the title of the album. Stir up a bit of word of mouth. Get feedback on what the best tunes are with the number of downloads and what gets said on the boards.
Bring the release date forward (to where it always should have been, perhaps),
and EVERYONE IS A WINNER.
I'm starting to think that these leaks are becoming more like an obligatory bit of free promotion.
Get the audience familiar with the title of the album. Stir up a bit of word of mouth. Get feedback on what the best tunes are with the number of downloads and what gets said on the boards.
Bring the release date forward (to where it always should have been, perhaps),
and EVERYONE IS A WINNER.
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FYI the label did ring saying they didn't want a fuss made about the album being leaked, so it's hardly them amplifying the situation.
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Spot on! I think this theory has a lot of truth behind it. I mean, pushing a release forward by several months would mean you would have to press all those records to a very tough deadline or *shock* have them already in the warehouses.
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Do you want a medal, thief?
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Peter lacks many things frquently.
I'm not sure if anyone can say it's a bad thing though.
I'm not sure if anyone can say it's a bad thing though.
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But the point is, downloading music is a great way of hearing new stuff (try before you buy, etc.), and honestly, is it *any* different to borrowing a CD off a mate/the library to give it a listen?
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Yes! Because you're taking a copy. That's why there's a thing called streaming, which is where you are simply played the material, instead of the full recording remaining in your computer's memory and/or disk space.
And the point in this case is that you can't buy (yet), so you have no grounds to 'try'.
And the point in this case is that you can't buy (yet), so you have no grounds to 'try'.
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Maybe, but there's been no announcement of bringing the release date forward as yet.
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I doubt if the albums release will be moved forward by any significant amount, if at all n.
However, I think it would be naive to discount the
idea of using a leak such as this as a memetic marketing device. Despite the reported increases in studio security, I have a feeling that albums leaking to the internet shall remain just as common in the future. The leaks will just occur for different reasons.
Bands the size of those who have recently had albums leaked to the internet have no need for street teams.
Their fanbases are established. What they do need is to build expectation for their release, have everyone know the title of their album well before it hits the shelves, and have people talking about it. And once that word (LEAK!) is out, the genie just wont squeeze back into the bottle. Phase 0.1 complete, if you like.
An album leaking out also cements the notion that the band are significant enough to have a leak be considered newsworthy; and it also reinforces the idea that file trading damages legitimate album sales.
By the way, by no means is any of the above a certainty in regards to the Muse album; it really is just pure supposition. I'm just not finding it difficult to remain a cynic when events start following similar patterns, that's all.
However, I think it would be naive to discount the
idea of using a leak such as this as a memetic marketing device. Despite the reported increases in studio security, I have a feeling that albums leaking to the internet shall remain just as common in the future. The leaks will just occur for different reasons.
Bands the size of those who have recently had albums leaked to the internet have no need for street teams.
Their fanbases are established. What they do need is to build expectation for their release, have everyone know the title of their album well before it hits the shelves, and have people talking about it. And once that word (LEAK!) is out, the genie just wont squeeze back into the bottle. Phase 0.1 complete, if you like.
An album leaking out also cements the notion that the band are significant enough to have a leak be considered newsworthy; and it also reinforces the idea that file trading damages legitimate album sales.
By the way, by no means is any of the above a certainty in regards to the Muse album; it really is just pure supposition. I'm just not finding it difficult to remain a cynic when events start following similar patterns, that's all.
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Well, to be honest when you download songs the sound quality is shite anyway only the real cd give 100% quality.Hail to the theif...heh heh had to say it.
Oh & when i downloaded those song they are just inviews with the band with small snipits of the songs in the backround... i think its a ploy pump the album up..
Think people who bitch at others for downloading music are full of shit, they are either 1. Doing fine money wise and can afford to pay for over priced cd`s (the downloading itself IS going to see the cd prices go down and it is the "protest" against the prices)
2. In the industry, wakes each morning with all the new bands stuff free from labels on there door mat, and will flog them on ebay later on for money.
3. just a stupid cunt who belives what he hears when he rents a video
Oh & when i downloaded those song they are just inviews with the band with small snipits of the songs in the backround... i think its a ploy pump the album up..
Think people who bitch at others for downloading music are full of shit, they are either 1. Doing fine money wise and can afford to pay for over priced cd`s (the downloading itself IS going to see the cd prices go down and it is the "protest" against the prices)
2. In the industry, wakes each morning with all the new bands stuff free from labels on there door mat, and will flog them on ebay later on for money.
3. just a stupid cunt who belives what he hears when he rents a video
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Blind faith and religious fervour is effortlessly easy to mock... hell...it's practically self-mockery. PW is just a cynical SOB, there's no snobbery involved. I like Muse, and Origin' was a very good album, but it wasn't epoch-making. I think they may have it in them to do that, but from what I've heard of the new songs it's more of the same. I hate the way a band gets prematurely elevated to 'legendary' status just because they're good (and because there aren't many simultaneously successful and musically original bands out there)... it can lead to resting on laurels and a horrible Maoist situation where nobody around the band is prepared to challenge them to do better.
MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
yet again, a "news" story about an album being leaked. the last one i remember was when the stereophonics last album was put online...
i don't understand why this is so surprising.. pretty much every album / single / ep ever released gets leaked onto the internet before it's in the shops, yet when "big" bands albums get leaked its suddenly all over the news websites and on the radio!!
i don't understand why this is so surprising.. pretty much every album / single / ep ever released gets leaked onto the internet before it's in the shops, yet when "big" bands albums get leaked its suddenly all over the news websites and on the radio!!
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who gives a shit, most albums are available to download before release. Muse have done well to keep it to a month, the Raptures new album has been online since May.
MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
Ive downloaded 3 tracks + a live track. 2 of the tracks Ive downloaded are radio streams that my friend ripped and the other is 192kbps. Im not going to download any more tracks, because I want to wait for the full thing. I just got the singles, or the pre-album release tracks. Thats what I do for most bands I like. I dont think anyone should get the entire album before its release as that does defeat the point. But, whatever floats your boat.
MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
I downloaded the complete muse absolution cd, it is the greatest cd I have ever heard. I pre-ordered my copy of the real release along with the dvd.
MUSE: 'Absolution' Leaked
Its true ... the album is leaking .. on direct connect by example .. i found it there ... and yes .. since i am a number one fan i will buy the cd when it releases .. not download it .. it would be a shame i think .. as a musician myself i can just imagine how it would feel . when you work really hard on 1 album .. then people take it for granted to download it instead of buying it .. in my opinion : p2p should be illegal
Absolution invade o Brasil!!!
Galera (People):
Bom, meu inglês é horrível, portanto vou escrever em português mesmo tendo a esperança que alguém possa entender o que eu escrevo...
Vamos lá... o Álbum "Muse" da banda Absolution está SENSACIONAL!! Indiscutivelmente o melhor álbum do mê de Setembro... a faixa "Time is Running Out" é muito boa e séria candidata a melhor música do ano (palavras de um amigo meu e que eu assino embaixo).
Por enquanto nós aqui do Brasil só podemos ouvir as faixas pelos sites de música pois o CD ainda não foi lançado por aqui... portanto aqui vai o meu apelo: quem daí de fora puder me dar um de presente, entre em contato comigo... hehehe...
Renato Barros (São Paulo - Brazil)
Bom, meu inglês é horrível, portanto vou escrever em português mesmo tendo a esperança que alguém possa entender o que eu escrevo...
Vamos lá... o Álbum "Muse" da banda Absolution está SENSACIONAL!! Indiscutivelmente o melhor álbum do mê de Setembro... a faixa "Time is Running Out" é muito boa e séria candidata a melhor música do ano (palavras de um amigo meu e que eu assino embaixo).
Por enquanto nós aqui do Brasil só podemos ouvir as faixas pelos sites de música pois o CD ainda não foi lançado por aqui... portanto aqui vai o meu apelo: quem daí de fora puder me dar um de presente, entre em contato comigo... hehehe...
Renato Barros (São Paulo - Brazil)
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best. post. ever.
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what is the difference between burning a cd from a friend and copying a tape? The Record companies didn't seem to have a problem when tapes were being copied left and right, why the big problem now. All these bastards have enough money...share the wealth and promote music that doesn't suck. promote music that takes half a stand of talent to create. these clowns make me want to puke.
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they really really DID have a problem with home taping
they had a massive campaign way back when about it
they just didn't have the technology to fuck us all off with then is all
they had a massive campaign way back when about it
they just didn't have the technology to fuck us all off with then is all
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