Further celebrity bitching: Waterman vs Doherty
- Artists:
- Steps »
- Babyshambles »
YES! Silver-haired pop gnome Pete Waterman has finally confirmed what many of us had feared: Pete Doherty is a bit rubbish.
This shock revelation is brought to you courtesy of The Mirror, who quote the Man Responsible For Steps thus:
"What can you say about Pete Doherty? If you have to take heroin to be famous - well, I don't get it. Will Pete be a Kurt Cobain or a Jimi Hendrix? Never in a million years. He hasn't the talent to tune their guitars."
Wait... was Kurt's guitar often in tune? Pete, we salute your insight and applaud your contributions to the pop music world - without Steps, Kylie and Jason and RICK ASTLEY, we'd be some sour-faced motherfuckers and no mistake.
- DiS Does Pop #8: Is retromania ruining pop?
- "Call the people who can lose you a million pounds, there’s a credibility there" - DiS meets Pete Wa
- Further Steps back in time...
- Scott-Lee wants pop at Eurovision
- Further celebrity bitching: Waterman vs Doherty
- Lisa Scott-Reality TV
- Don't Stop The Pop! Dumb pop news for a dumb Monday
- DiS Plays Pop (So You Don't Have To)
Pete
waterman may have given us a load of crap bubblegum pop, but doherty gave us babyshambles and that, is just as fucking bad.
!
I'd take the bubblegum pop over anything Pete Doherty has touched anyday.
No irony.
It's becoming fashionable...
... to have a go at Doherty when you want to raise your public profile. Let's see... Elton John, Pete Townsend, Sharon Osbourne, Pete Waterman... and that's just the names I can think of... just in the last few weeks.
At a time when FINALLY there seems to be some evidence that Pete might be trying to sort his life out a bit (well, he hasn't been making an idiot of himself in the press for a bit), can't this just be given a rest?
Cobain's...
...not remembered for his drugs. That said, I listened to the Sliver CD today... what a waste of plastic.
But it's interesting what Waterman says: that Doherty won't be a Hindrix or Cobain figure, in a million years.
Didn't both die drug-related deaths?
Couldn't Doherty do the same?
And a lot sooner than in a million years?
So: Waterman is wrong, right?
in a million years
no one will remember that rock existed... ( if there's still someone to remember something )
I'm being...
...facetious, after a fashion.
.
you can't diss rick astley!
sorry but...
yes, its a shame, but you can dis rick astley
If you've got a new product to plug it does seem like
you have to take a pop at either Doherty or Madonna. The Stock/Aitken/Waterman 3cd collection is in shops now.
Firstly
all of those people, are ridiculously famous, more so than Doherty ever will. So, I don't think they really need to raise their profile by talking about someone who most of the general public know as Kate Moss' boyfriend.
Secondly, did you read the article in the Guardian on friday? Shooting up in front of the journalist and writing in blood on the wall. Rock on.
.
waterman is 100% correct.
Still not buying HIS album though
Anyone noticed the horrible 'piezo pickup' acoustic guitar sound on that Babyshambles single? Seriously, that is taking 'we're making it sound rubbish to be honest' thing to a new and sick extreme.
And the resurgence
of the pork pie hat and the military look. Yay!
Yeah
nothing like a drug habit to give you an edge. F*ck talent!
I think you'll find you
can. Let's start with the hair, groove down to the suits then lay in to the voice...
Hmmm...
...all famous yet, but none 'in vogue' now, and artists will do anything to be relevant. Once you've got all the cash you need, it's only the ego that needs feeding.
Didn't see the Guardian article though. Makes a bit of a mockery of what I said. Ooops.
Pete Waterman
Yeah but Pete W also gave us Mel&Kim, who were ACE, and also the pioneering techno single 'Roadblock'.
I don't think that SAW ever had songs the like of which Holland/Dozier/Holland wrote for Tamla Motown, or anywhere near the calibre of artists, but it was not a bad idea to try to re-create the idea of Berry Gordy's label. Despite my general hatred of manufactured pop, I've always had quite a lot of respect for Pete Waterman because I think he really does have a genuine love for pop music in all it's catchy transient disposable glory. Steps were an attempt to try to re-create the Abba formula, but without their ridiculously talented writing partnersips it was bound to fail. I can't necessarily fault the guy for trying. As for his statement. I think it is fair to say that Doherty will never write anything in the same league as 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' or 'Voodoo Chile'.
Perhaps the often drug-fuelled 'wild abandon' that attracts people to Pete Doherty would be better compared to the appeal of Iggy Pop, albeit a castrated lightweight version??
I don't understand how anyone can stand up for Waterman
because at the moment I can't think of anyone in the history of music who has tried harder to kill creativity and talent in search of the almighty dollar.
DiS meets John Lydon - Part 1: The Man
DiS Does Singles 20.05.13: Paramore, Laura Marling, The Replacements
DiS joins the Music Alliance Pact + May 2013's global MAP compilation
Drowned in Bristol #12
DiS Does Singles 13.05.13: Swim Deep, These New Puritans, The National
Darkstar, Ed Harcourt, Halls, Wall +more for 3 DiS-curated nights at Great Escape 2013
Twitter
Facebook
Last.fm
SoundCloud
MySpace
Friendster
RSS
Comments
- Post a new comment on this article