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Billy Corgan - officially friendless

disnews by DiS News [Edit this content] ▾ 29 comments 18:15 April 4th, 2005
billy fucking knobhead corgan with a curtain on his back even though he'd prefer hair
Former captain Pumpkin, Billy Corgan, is set to release his debut solo album 'thefutureembrace' this summer.

The record is out on June 21st and it's expected that Corgan will be making a select appearance at a number of 'initimate' UK venues when he launches a world tour beginning in July.

'thefutureembrace' was produced by Corgan along with Bjorn Thorsrud and Bon Harris, mixed by Alan Moulder and recorded in Chicago. The album contains 11 originals plus a cover of the early Bee Gees song 'To Love Somebody,' which features Robert Smith of the Cure on backing vocals. Elsewhere, former Smashing Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlain plays on 'DIA'.

The full track listing for 'thefutureembrace' is as follows:

'All Things Change'
'Mina Loy (M.O.H.)'
'TheCameraEye'
'To Love Somebody'
'A100'
'DIA'
'Now (And Then)'
'I'm Ready'
'Walking Shade'
'Sorrows (in blue)'
'Pretty, pretty STAR'
'Strayz'

Smashing Pumpkins Zwan
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Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Friendless? Harsh. He'll be better off solo I reckon after the Zwan debacle.
John_Brainlove | 4 Apr '05, 18:26 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Hmmm. There's always Jimmy... he still likes Jimmy. I hope it's good... I worry that it will be rubbish. This man recently did a poetry reading... poetry... sigh.

Oh Billy....

xg
GarethD | 4 Apr '05, 18:28 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

what;s wrong with poetry?
joe_shoo | 4 Apr '05, 18:50 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Nowt, there's stuff wrong with a talentless wanker (cue howls of criticism from Pumpkins fans) reciting it though.
CaviarAndCigarets | 4 Apr '05, 19:47 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Debacle?

They were just the pumpkins but happy!
SuperSheep @John_Brainlove | 4 Apr '05, 20:09 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Actually, given how bad Corgan's lyrics have been since the turn of the millennium, I'd be really quite afraid of a poetry reading. Everyone knows the last truly great thing he put his name to was 'Adore'.
Effloresce_Sean | 4 Apr '05, 20:10 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Actually, given how bad Corgan's lyrics have been since the turn of the millennium, I'd be really quite afraid of a poetry reading. Everyone knows the last truly great thing he put his name to was 'Adore'.
Effloresce_Sean | 4 Apr '05, 20:11 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

I'm looking forward to this mainly because, apart from the fact that it's Billy Corgan, it is only 11 tracks and thus is unlikely to be another 70+ minute opus, which I feel has been his weakspot for the last, uh, ten years...
guntrip | 4 Apr '05, 21:14 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Last great thing Adore???????????

You have not heard Machina II then.

This is gonna be great.
fullerov @guntrip | 4 Apr '05, 22:33 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

And with Jesus.
Wiggles @SuperSheep | 4 Apr '05, 22:34 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

The were the Pumpkins minus all inspiration and quality.
Zwan will be remembered as a footnote at best.
John_Brainlove @Wiggles | 4 Apr '05, 22:36 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

I thought Machina had at least three or four completely inspired songs on it. And was consistently better than the slightly ropey Adore.
John_Brainlove @fullerov | 4 Apr '05, 22:37 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Machina: The Machines of God, John?
fullerov | 4 Apr '05, 22:41 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

Actually...what the hell, you're right. 'Machina II' was stunning. 'Lucky 13' just...owns.
Effloresce_Sean | 4 Apr '05, 22:58 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

yes but the production on Adore was so.much.better. That carried it through.
josh @John_Brainlove | 4 Apr '05, 23:54 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

come on Zwan wasn't that bad! and the Djali Zwan were very promising (they soundtracked the Drugs movie "Spun"). Hopefully his solo stuff is in a very similar vein to that.
Also Machina I had some pretty good moments.
feedmetotheforest | 5 Apr '05, 01:27 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

I thought the DjaliZwan was the stuff on the 2nd disk of the reissued MSTOTS?
fullerov @feedmetotheforest | 5 Apr '05, 01:32 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

really? i had no idea. infact i didn't even know it had been reissued lol.

hmmm, still not worth buying again just for that though.

although the cover of "number of the beast" was good.
feedmetotheforest @fullerov | 5 Apr '05, 01:42 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

I bought it for my sister. Big corgan fan.
fullerov @feedmetotheforest | 5 Apr '05, 01:43 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

actually billy had a blog for a couple days last april

i guess he burned out on it

http://integralnaked.org/avantgarde/billy_blog.aspx
lala | 5 Apr '05, 05:41 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

yeah, machina 1.
everlasting gaze, this time, Age Of Innocence
all truly amazing.
John_Brainlove @fullerov | 5 Apr '05, 05:47 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

I think the production on Machina is pretty immense, the guitars on I of the mourning and stand inside your love in particular sound fantastic.

I do love the sound of Adore more though.

Zwan were a good band but not groundbreaking, and never professed to be.

I will try to go to one of these shows, purely because it's Billy Corgan.
Idlewildman | 5 Apr '05, 10:41 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

hmm dilema: do i still care...probably not
gay4conoroberst @John_Brainlove | 5 Apr '05, 10:44 | X | Reply

Re: Billy Corgan - officially friendless

You can call Billy Corgan a lot of things, but talentless? Marmite voice (love it or loathe it) aside, he's a fantastically gifted guitarist; used to write some of the best rock poetry going (admittedly, Zwan and his poetry book were a massive decline in quality), and he had a massive back catalogue of truly great songs.

I'm interested in hearing his new material. I don't think he'll ever touch on the peaks he hit with Smashing Pumpkins, but he hasn't turned into a self-aggrandizing prick like Bono or another pathetic dead junkie like a lot of his peers.
dale @Idlewildman | 5 Apr '05, 11:05 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

thefutureembrace: how long before this is a DiS username or hotmail adress?

i may have to register both just to stop mopey lil kids getting there first.

nah. let them have their fun.
alcxxk | 5 Apr '05, 16:01 | X | Reply

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It looks better with only one 'e'
fihiki @alcxxk | 5 Apr '05, 16:16 | X | Reply

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

I reckon Billy Corgan should never be allowed to produce his own records, work with any other 'stars', or cover anything really inappropriate. Provided he steers clear of these pitfalls I'm sure this will be great...er...feck.
carrot_ram | 5 Apr '05, 18:21 | X | Reply

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thefutureembrace will kick so much ass that it will make us for get about Zwan and even EVEN the Smashing Pumpkins (no not really)
But it will rock out and all of you doubters will be secretly listenly to that one for years to come
while reading 'Blinking With Fists'

Billy Corgan - officially friendless

come on now! the best sp album has got to be 'siamese dream' and then 'pisces iscariot' only because the entire original line up is there and they were still 'college rock'. things got too 'mechanised' and technical after that. not that i'm complaining but i guess i am. haha billy is genius, albeit a mad one but which genius isn't? i'm really looking forward to this.
detachable | 11 Apr '05, 04:20 | X | Reply

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