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Mosh Pit Etiquette #1 – Crowdsurfing

So, there you are, jumping about a bit, watching the band, enjoying the atmosphere and generally minding your own business when all of a sudden THUD! Some strangers’ steel-capped DM boot wedges itself firmly into your eye socket. Said stranger then gets heaved off to inflict pain upon some other poor, unsuspecting gig-goer, totally oblivious to the fact that they’ve just given you a nice big shiner of a black eye.

Still, with every teenagers burning desire to be as rock’n’roll as possible and generally be ‘ard, crowd surfing has a convenient appeal. I mean, hey! What could possibly be a more suiting way to enjoy your £9-worth of live music than to get thrown about peoples heads, slowly crippling them one by one, whilst those sweaty, grimy hands that you haven’t yet broken, grope and grab at you.

The ancient art of crowdsurfing is as old as the mosh pit itself. Since the very beginning of rock’n’roll antics, that bit of the audience right at the foot of the stage has been a whirling no man's land of flying bodies and vented vitriol… and we wouldn’t have it any other way!

So, if you’re thinking of taking that trip over the top to a world of bright lights and grasping hands and you don't want irate casualties (myself included) chasing you around with big sticks, screaming profanities in your face, here are a few things to consider…

  1. Timing – So, as you look around, you can see there’re already about 5 people clambering onto their mates shoulders… this is NOT an invitation. Unless you want to just drop on the floor in front of the stage and crack your head on the rail because the security are too busy getting other people, it’s just not a good idea. And the people on the front row don’t like it, either.

  2. Movement– The worst thing about being someone underneath a crowdsurfer, is when they thrash about, squirming and kicking like a small child having a tantrum. This will not only make it incredibly hard to push you forward, it also makes people want to stick pins in your eyes, and no one likes having pins in their eyes, do they? The safest, easiest and all round most enjoyable method is just to lie back, keep still and enjoy the scenery.

  3. Clothing – Chains, extreme spikes and bags. No, just… NO!

  4. Judge your Weight – Now, I don’t mean to sound rude, but you’ve got to be practical about this. People have got you bear your weight on their arms and shoulders, and the security have got to carry you safely over the bar. If you’re a 6ft 6ins rugby player who weighs 15 stone… it’s just not gonna happen. You’ll only get dropped, so why bother trying?

  5. Quality, not Quantity – So, you’ve crowdsurfed once. Fucking good, wasn’t it? Yeah, well savour the moment and give everyone else a break. The reappearance of the same manic grins and toe caps every five minutes wont make you any friends.

  6. And finally, just remember no one likes a show off – so keep those RAWK moments and laps of victory until you get home, because frankly, you look like a prat.

Now, assuming you’ve taken all that on board and you’re ready to crowdsurf like a pro, there’s nothing left to say except - Happy havoc!

yes yes yes

i wholeheartedly agree with you there!!!!!!!!! the ones who keep rotating are the worst. whats the point in missing an entire gig only cos your busy getting dragged over barriers, whizz through the photographer gap at the front, only to re-emerge from somewhere at the back etc etc. hm, id also suggest crowdsurfers should not wear shoes at all, unless theyre soft moccassins or slippers or something. but no it tends to be army boots that engrave themselves into your face...

julia
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uhuh. my vitriol at the leadmill last night was just stupid. there were SO many crowd surfers and they were all thrashing about kicking people - namely me (when will i learn not to position myself right in the middle at the front?) and the worst thing was, it was mostly the same people. thanks to them i missed out on basically the whole of the last 2 songs because i was too busy trying not to get head kicked in.

grrrrrrr
ggrrrrrrrrrrr

KPxx

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may i suggest biting there ankles next time they come over your head .... or befriend a big friendly bouncer type person.or push said crowd surfer into a big unfriendly bouncer type person.

or just thresten to remove there spinal column and send it to there mum via the post.

that should work

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I realy don't get crowd surfers at all.

Why o why do they crowd surf during quiet songs - You relax listening to the realy cool tune when thunk! you get hit on the head by a surfer.

Why o why so they surf right at the end of songs?

Hmmmmmmm. How are these people and why do they do it???

Case 1: Super Furry Animals gig, bloke behind me is slagging them off big time (about them singing in welsh and sheep and things). A few songs later a crowd surfer comes over and I'm about to help him along when I spot that it was the same idiot from before. Stuff that I thought so I didn't help and he fell on the floor.
Why should someone who slagged off the band suddenly want to crowd surf??

Case 2: SFA again (not the same gig), large chap comes over but doesn't get far and lands on the head of 2 girls (how it didn't break thier necks I don't know). Did he say sorry, nope he just started chatting them up. He then spent the rest of the gig just standing there not dancing away or clapping at the end of songs.
Why would someone who clearly isn't bothered about the band crowd surf.

Case 3: not crowd surfing related but pissed me off big time. It's The Wannadies at Glasto, there was a bit of sideways pushing and a few people fell on the floor so I held back the people behind me so they could get up and noone else would fall over.
What did I get for helping out? A few moments I got hit at the base of my skull. A crowd surfer had just zoomed across and at the time I thought it must have been him even though it seemed a little strange. Then a few seconds later I got hit again, this time I knew it was deliberate - that someone had actualy punched me so I turned around and gave everyone behind me the evilest look ever and nothing happened again. I had a terrible headache for days afterwards......

no no no

there are tried and tested methods for dealing with impolite crowdsurfers.

spikes. spikes are very good. get nice big proper ones. praps ones that you can unscrew from the actual bracelet, so you can hide em in yr shoes and the bouncers won't take them off you. and when that inevitable twat with the steel-capped New Rocks and multiple chains soars over - no, sorry, INTO - your head, raise your arm and impale the fucker. :)

or pinch something. surfers have delicate bits too, y'know. :)

or just punch them really hard.

this sounds psychotic but i HATE HATE HATE stupid surfers who don't have a clue about doing it properly or sensibly. i should point out that i do surf myself. but [a] i'm fairly light, [b] i don't surf with bags/chains/massive boots/spikes, [c] i don't do it very often, only at gigs where i really HAVE to, when it's just too good to resist [i certainly don't do if the crowd blatantly aren't in the mood or the music doesn't call for it] and [d] i don't go over more than about 3 times, and i try to vary my route so as not to be the ubiquitous repetitive twat. i am an angelic surfer. :)

so..um..yeah...don't spike/pinch/punch me.... *wibble*

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yeah man crowd surfing is good and its even better when theres some prat (prefeerably quite light too) who lands on some huge fucker and then jus gets thrown 10 feet in the air. makes me laugh anyway.

No No No

I second the last part of Gen's post.

I've got absolutely no problem with crowdsurfers. Sometimes I quite enjoy being landed on. If you want to be down the front you have to accept this is going to happen, people whining about it annoys me.
However crowdsurfers should respect the people they are surfing on, eg not wearing chains etc etc etc.

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Yeah, I'm not saying people shouldn't do it, I'm just saying that they should be considerate when they do...

KPxx

URGH

Crowdsurfing and moshing are possibly the two most aggressive, ridiculous, neanderthal, male-biased reactions to hearing music that exist. I too get quite excited at gigs. But I like to express by my enjoyment through dancing. Uncoordinated, terrible dancing that doesn't hurt anyone or create unrest and anger. All crowdsurfers and moshers should be banned from gigs. Either that, or all put in a room together, listening to wishy-washy bouncathon shite (see My Vitriol, A, Reuben, bad metal, weak-ass punk, etc) until each participant is knocked out or embarrassed enough to commit suicide.

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Nah, moshing's fun so long as you dont get seriously hurt. It's the atmosphere of everyone crammed together, thrashing about, exerting energy and enjoying the music. Dancing's equally as fun, but every now and then you just have to go a little bit insane and lose it. So long as people show *some* consideration, it's fine. It's just when people are purposely out to hurt people it gets annoying.

But hey, I'm a My Vitriol fan so what would i know :P

KPxx

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isn't the very best advice not to crowd surf at all? the whole straigh-edge movement with Fugazi and then followed on by At the Drive-in, really didnt condone the utter disrepect that is throwing yerself on top and crushing every little fucker below...

Yeah, its fun, everyone's gotta do it once - but isn't it more for your stadium rock fest? People doing it in the Garage look so fucken dumb.

*thinks about Waynes World*

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Whats with all the repeats??

I really dont think DiS has been going long enough to use words like 'classic' and 'archives' just yet. *scoff scoff*

Is this is really just an attempt to cover up for the fact that you're running out of things to say beyond the obvious (and quite tedious) "The music scene is dead" or "The industry/government/mcdonalds is killing music" and all that other miserable bollocks!

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2 years is quite a long time. Maybe not if you compare it to 1000years, but if you compare it to the length most bands careers last, it's a significant period. Music years are like cat years.

It is a quiet time of year (and if it's good for the bbc!?!) and this only our second repeat...

Blimus.

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Fair enough. I suppose you can be forgiven when you consider some of the bands who dare to release "greatest hits" cd's!

Whats happening with the stuff you were promising a while back? I read something about the magazine not happening, but what about the MP3 exchange? and bands doing DiS sessions at your new digs?

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mp3 downloads/p2p thang is still in the pipeworks - everything takes months longer than you expect and you need to say you're gonna do something to attract extra people who do similar things.

the sessions thang will come when we get a better server - it won't really work on what we have now and i reckon would be loads better on an enhanced cd. would cost us to let people watch bands which only really makes sense if we can cover the costs. seems a bit silly cus most of the bands will either be selling records (and make money) or be great but unknown and no-one will watch it.

we'll find our ways to make it work, with the minimum of compromise.

Mosh Pit Etiquette #1 – Crowdsurfing

crowd surfing is for wankers

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