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Lisa Alther sent me a message....much better than a message from a grubby, scruffy indieband.
even scruffy indie band...
I send you messages and not from my band's myspace either!!
Look everyone! Lyle is a LIAR!!
No wonder France lost the World Cup.
just covering the truth because I'm sad...
ha, i made a funny.
nearly made that joke myself.
Darcy? more like Tardy....
cos you were late, like.
you're embarrassed I send you messages? You're ashamed of me aren't you, aren't you?! :o(
Look here :
I didn't know you'd reviewed us...Thanks Lyle :o)
How many people have to know who you are before you're technically 'famous'?
chewbacca > lisa alther
and "commentzzzz plzzz" right after.
YOU KNOW, LISA ALTHER!
She's, liek, well famous! EVERYONE LOVES LISA!
lisa > my posts
though a wikipedia seach reveals she's a novelist.
But why does someone being famous make their message of more value? It's of much more value to me to receive messages from people I like, admire or respect. Whether they're famous or not doesn't really enter the equation.
i never thought JDT would be one to buy into the Cult of Celebrity.
i'm disappointed, John.
Obviously, it is the fact that it is from Lisa Alther rather than the fact she is well-known. If you had read any of her novels you'd be impressed.
Wow! Really? I can't believe she actually spoke to you.
Tell me you bastard.
oriiginally Lisa Althea, and was one half of Uptown To Ranking stalets Althea & Donna.
Or it's Lisa Stansfield's fake name. BEEN AROUND THE WORLD TONAYAYAYAYAYITE
I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE HAS BEEN, MY BAAAAAABY
a scandalous allegation about Lisa Stansfield and her prediliction for a certain RIDICULOUS sexual manouevre.
Maybe that's for another time, as it makes me giggle too much to print here.
So everyone knows it :)
Based on what?
Flaccidity? You know you make me hard John.
I'd describe her as a strong, salty, original talent. Is the word I am looking for balanced? Alther does fuse qualities, being robustly despairing, tenaciously critical, yet vigorously creative, grim but comical -- she had me laughing at four in the morning. No man could have written it (KINFLICKS), but it is very far from being 'a woman's book', and it made me wonder what TOM JONES would be like, written now. It is the size and scope of the territory Alther claims which is impressive.
no matter which famous person messaged you.
now, if someone i respected messaged me, i would be pleased but i wouldn't expect anyone else to be impressed.
I definitely wouldn't post a thread trying to show-off about it.
I assumed that everyone would know Lisa Alther and have read her books. The use of the word "famous" was supposed to be amusing and a play on the tendency of some contributors to be in an onanistic frenzy whenever they meet some scruffy guitar band member. I am not allowed to be amusing.
Making an assumption like that just highlights your ignorance.
i'm ALL man when the time requires it, you bastard.
we got a message off mike garson, that was quite cool...
currently awaiting a response from Norm Macdonald. It's been a month on and he still hasn't replied to my message but in saying that he hasn't logged in since I sent him the message.
Lisa Bearsuit? Germlin?
They aren't really THAT famous though are they.
Not everyone has heard every singer, and nor should they have. The fact that you think anyone who hasn't heard some band you like is stupid is a disgrace.
Ignorance of Ms. Alther's work, particularly 'Kinflicks' and 'Original Sins' elucidates the soullessness of the modern young man's attitude toward romance and this attitude's anti-erectile persona.
I'm pretty sure you'd be ignorant about a shitload of stuff JDT.
And PLEASE don't come back at this with one of your oh so ironic "I do know everything" faux arrogant posts.
(I still love you though)
She's trying to be like hip and cool by having a myspace, I told her that she needs to lose the hats, hats are for losers.
Did she message you in response to a message you sent or off her own back?
Was it to you personally or a mailout?
Even if I were to be the type to be 'impressed' by messages by 'famous' people it would surely only count if they messaged you first.
If you send a Myspace message to enough famous people then eventually someone will respond in the same way people respond to fanmail. Surely that's not got the same kudos?
She empathised with a self-deprecating description that emcompassed both an acceptance of age and an acceptance of social skills ability.
and until JDT tells me otherwise, I'm going to pretend she works for Scotland Yard.
He's currently murdering the English language on this thread
telling me I was their 2000th friend and offering me a cup of tea. More reasons for me to love them.
Traynor, I think it's great that someone you like sent you a message. It's always a little bit exciting feeling close to your heroes, isn't it? Maybe next time try not to be so insufferably smug about the fact you've heard of someone we haven't though. Maybe.
I am disappointed that Lisa Alther is not known.
"The fact that none of you idiots have heard of Lisa Alther is not only an expression of your flaccidity but also the reason for it."
That is anger caused by disappointment.
A link or the title of a book to read. That's a lot more helpful than getting angry.
i'm always willing to listen to bands i've never heard of before or check out a writer who's work i'm not familiar with. it would be quite small-minded of the person who mentions those bands/writers/else to be kinda condescending and smug. that's sad.
There's a difference between ignorance and idiocy.
I am ignorant of Lisa Alther's work, which is to say I don't know her and haven't read her books. That doesn't make me an idiot.
I love it when Traynor starts argueing...it's like his in some parallel universe - where he's right about stuff.
See my post below.
The universes are not "parallel".
Taynor-Bot says: Does not compute!
However, Bigfoot described an idiot as ignorant. This is a true statement but is tautological.
Your assertion that ignorance does not imply idiocy is not the same as a statement that idiocy implies ignorance.
You were not responding logically and contrarily to my statement.
I suppose logic isn't taught in schools any more.
It was Joeyarsehole* who was being illogical.
*translation, not description
would have messaged me after my first reply...
Now, I'm really...
Mr Traynor does himself no favours, does he? His petulance knows no bounds.
does sometimes sound a bit like Mr Logic, but he does deserve kudos for his use of 'anti erectile' as an insult.....fantastic.
But I must also take issue with his castigation of people unfamiliar with this author.....by all means John encourage people to read an author by implying that they would be 'idiots not to check her out' that gives weight to how important you think she is, but to call people idiots will turn people off her....or at least encourage them to read briefly and pronounce on her work negatively......you know what people are like.
PS It is like if I were to suggest that if you have not become conversant with Robert Graves 'The White Goddess' you cannot pretend to be a true afficianado of poetry. It is a difficult difficult book, you have to understand all the concepts and have experiance a lot to know 'how to place the information'
But until you can you cannot understand the true role most true old poetry has.
(obviously this is bolux cos I already had an appreciation before I came to the book.........who is to say that all the people on this site already dont understand such terms as 'anti erectile' or concepts contained within your authors books
who have sent me a message include
Robin Guthrie (cocteau twins)
Robin Guthrie a message first and he replied to me. so that probably doesnt count
I tend to message people only to get interviews for my blog, being the hit and run charlatan only in it for my own good that I am. (Although I did meet a famous in DIS circles female singer recently who not only remembered who I was but told me she'd read my work, which is more than most people I know on the net will admit to)
...left me a comment once giving me props on my choice of quote when I had a quote from Get The Funk Out by Extreme on there...
I've also got Katie from Forward Russia on my friends list.
Don't have any proper big celebs though.
The fact that none of you idiots have heard of Lisa Alther is not only an expression of your flaccidity but also the reason for it.