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I HAD to start this thread...
I'm already dying from anticipation...
Â£20 would give you Â£400
( as long as I think that they'll win... I hope :! )
Really on the fence for this though, like both teams. Think i'll just cheer for whoever has the most support in the pub.
My head says another Italian clean sheet and a slender 1-0 win.
Cannavaro is the best centre back in at least the last 10 years.
better than Neil Ruddock?
to win it because zidane may well be the best player ever and it would be fitting to see. but i also want italy to win it as i have never enjoyed watching them play but in this tournament i think the games involving them have been exciting...and they havent cheated as much as usual
who I want to win this match.
Calzati just now on le tour de France.
Is it the great week-end for France ?
you're living in 1998
bon chance anyway
were still in it...their lady supporters were awesome!
the Swedish women really gave some stick to their guys over Sweden's performance - The Swedish Womens team regularly perform much better than the men in their World Cup
Ranked 3rd in the world behind Germany and USA
two swedish girls in new zealand earlier this year and had a little fling with one of them....and they were both amazing. really nice girls and they spoke better english than me (which isnt hard)
so i am a newly found sweden supporter!
COME ON FRANCE!!!
and a couple of beers...
Big one is playing alone at the moment and will take a look at th eTV from time to time.
Little one will go to sleep ( hopefully as he nearly didn't sleep last night because of chickenpox...)
what an idiot.
I'm glad he got sent off!
surely the police shud be involved for such conduct
What Rooney did was bad too....
You'd be sacked for sure!
should not exempt you from the laws of the land
standing on someone accidentally is barely worth reporting.
but I'm still uncertain as to whether it was an accident.
He's had a brilliant game - I reckon he's easily been the best player on the pitch and it would have been nice if he'd ended his career in a much better way.
But that was a really fucking stupid thin gto do and he had to be sent off. I want France to win and, if they do not (especially if they lose on pens 'cos they don't have their best penalty-taker on the field) he deserves a lot of criticism.
shameful way to finish his playing career.
it didn't even look like a dive, he really caught him with his head.
zidane's moment of utter madness shouldn't taint what has been an amazing world cup for france.
Completely agree with what Fishplums just said.
they wouldn't get past the second round.
He must be very proud right about now.
i hate italy more than i hate portugal.
France really were the better side today too.
Bet Zidane feels a twat right now.
but it did seem like the italian provoked him somewhat and said something a bit nasty. still though, you dont headbutt people ofr that
but no one should be that violent. ever.
Trezeguet must feel a bit low about now
and I'm pretty sure that Materazzi must have said something about the ethnic composition of the French side and Zidane's own in order for Zizou to loose his rag in such a fierce way
bad luck Lyle
can you lip-read?
and italy have a history of that sort of thing.
such a weird way to end the world cup.
such a shallow victory for italy - they did not deserve it one bit. not at all.
although, that grosso is a brilliant player, isn't he?
but it's best not accuse Materazzi of anything too harsh without any proof.
He must have said something for sure but it's probably best not to start suggestion he's a racist or anything like that without any evidence.
In any case, it's obviously tough. But there's never an excuse for turning round and headbutting anyone. I made the comment earlier in the thread but, if Zidane was in any job other than football and did the same thing, he'd be in far, far worse trouble than he is right now.
a good headbutt though, no?
after what Zidane did. Shame, he's been an amazing player, but the last thing he does is headbutt someone in a world cup final. I can't believe it. FORZA ITALIA!!!!
don't have a Nazi in goal. Therefore; Italy = worse
Buffon's a Nazi?
I just wonder what Materazzi said, and whether it was something they had planned to say to him at some point in the game. I wouldn't put it past them.
Having said that, I can't be bothered to call the Italians cheats any more. I'm happy for them that they won, and I can't honestly say there was any other team that could feel robbed. It was a tournament of loads of good but flawed sides and Italy survived it, so credit to them.
I mean abuse flies round the football pitch constantly so he must be desensitized to all but the deeply offensive and it must have been something horrific to make him react the way he did.
Or Zidane is a closet psycho...
To a nice retirement in Italy. If he has any sense.
feel a bit empty now. Well done to Italy though..i guess.
Was imagining what those celebrations at the end would have looked like with england shirts.
That was an awesome game spoiled by one moment of utter insanity. To watch one of the game's true greats perform so well on his last ever night only to lose it like that was just... tragic. Really horrible to watch.
There was so little to choose between the two teams on the day though. To use the cliche, it was a pity there had to be a winner.
Mixed emotions will be even more mixed tomorrow if Juve et al end up getting relegated...
a below par world cup topped off with a boring match won by, let's face it, the crossbar.
at least the 94 World Cup was a good one, just a crap final. No one really bothered to turn up to this one, long domestic seasons?
apart from, say, zidane and ballack, were there any world-class players who performed to the best of their ability?
i think that, just as lots of teams are going through 'transition', this was a 'transition' world cup with young players coming to the fore - ribery, grosso, maxi rodriguez, aaron lennon..
My player of the tournament vote goes to Philip Lahm
as 'The Materazzi Final', I never thought that would happen
I never thought I would say this, but by the end I really wanted France to win. It was agonisingly similar to Portugul/England
was daft to do what he did but look at that fucking twat...he couldnt just win the game without grabbing his nipple and insulting him to goad a reaction. i am gutted for zidane....and trezeguet is shit, i have always said that
as i can't understand why Zidane of all people would do such a thing.
Italy overall were the best side in the cup as Argentina were brought down by their management: plus they didn't concede a goal to an opponent from open play the whole tournament.
France manufactured their own downfall really: Ribery and Malouda just weren't good enough on the flanks and that extra bit of class they needed wasn't there.
Zidane though... wow.
Had his header gone in, he'd be held up with Pele and instead he'll be thrown in with players like Cryuff that sabotaged their own talent.
it sells more pants
I laughed until I cried. One of the game's true great, just deciding to headbutt someone in the heart until he falls down at the World Cup final. So he can't even get his final medal. Now THAT's entertainment.
but also very sad.
But since when are video and the fourth referee supposed to decide of what happen ?