# Boards

## Best MSN conversation ever

nolin

MSN

01:23

what do you think the chances of me switching to windows are?

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MSN

01:24

as close to none as i can think of

nolin

MSN

01:24

one? nun? adie nunn?

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MSN

01:25

one!?!?!

01:25

one is certainty init

nolin

MSN

01:26

it is if you look at it dictionarically

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MSN

01:26

fractions

01:26

1=10000000000000000000/10000000000000000000

nolin

MSN

01:27

yes, but conversely 1 = 1/0

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MSN

01:27

thats just plain bad maths

nolin

MSN

01:28

no it's not!!

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MSN

01:28

sorry

01:28

i misread as 1/10

01:28

1/0=infinity tho?

nolin

MSN

01:28

that's because you have windows

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:28

or any number?

01:28

n?

nolin

MSN

01:28

what, 1 divided by 0? no chris...

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MSN

01:28

1/0=infinity

nolin

MSN

01:29

no!!

01:29

you're wrong

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:29

what is 1/1?

01:29

what is 1/.5?

nolin

MSN

01:29

1
01:29

2

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:29

what is 1/.1?

01:29

what is 1/.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001?

nolin

MSN

01:30

http://www.google.com/search?q=1/0.5

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:30

well yes

01:30

i tried googling 1/0

01:31

but got lots of football results

nolin

MSN

01:31

it's not actually a valid equation, but hypothetically, anything divided by nothing results in an identical integer

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MSN

01:32

unless it wasnt an integer

nolin

MSN

01:32

well, clearly

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:32

(lol)

01:32

but seriously

01:32

as the nhumber one divides by lessens, the result greatens

nolin

MSN

01:33

yes, i am fully aware of that

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:33

0 is infinitely small

nolin

MSN

01:33

but, if there is literally nothing to divide by, then the number will remain the same

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MSN

01:33

nonono

nolin

MSN

01:33

0 is not infinitely small, it is an 'absolute'

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MSN

01:33

think about it in real terms

nolin

MSN

01:34

if you wanna fuck with my statistics a level, go for it

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:34

if i have an apple, and noone to split it with, nothingness gains applitude

01:34

if you want to fuck with my further maths statistics alevel, have a banana

01:34

i got an e

01:35

but i took the bastard

nolin

MSN

01:35

there is no such thing as 'nothingness' though. you are implying that 'nothing' is tangible, when it clearly isn't

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MSN

01:35

no, im refering to the concept of nothingness

nolin

MSN

01:35

how can there be a concept of nothingness?

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MSN

01:35

theres a word for it

nolin

MSN

01:36

when nothing is inherently devoid of anything to take a handle upon

01:36

at the end of the day, mathematically speaking, 1/0 = 1

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MSN

01:36

my hand is inherently devoid of bananas right now#

01:36

so:

01:36

1/1=1/0

01:36

therefore 1=0

nolin

MSN

01:37

## Best MSN conversation ever

nolin

MSN

01:23

what do you think the chances of me switching to windows are?

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:24

as close to none as i can think of

nolin

MSN

01:24

one? nun? adie nunn?

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:25

one!?!?!

01:25

one is certainty init

nolin

MSN

01:26

it is if you look at it dictionarically

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:26

fractions

01:26

1=10000000000000000000/10000000000000000000

nolin

MSN

01:27

yes, but conversely 1 = 1/0

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:27

thats just plain bad maths

nolin

MSN

01:28

no it's not!!

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:28

sorry

01:28

i misread as 1/10

01:28

1/0=infinity tho?

nolin

MSN

01:28

that's because you have windows

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:28

or any number?

01:28

n?

nolin

MSN

01:28

what, 1 divided by 0? no chris...

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:28

1/0=infinity

nolin

MSN

01:29

no!!

01:29

you're wrong

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:29

what is 1/1?

01:29

what is 1/.5?

nolin

MSN

01:29

1 01:29

2

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:29

what is 1/.1?

01:29

what is 1/.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001?

nolin

MSN

01:30

http://www.google.com/search?q=1/0.5

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:30

well yes

01:30

i tried googling 1/0

01:31

but got lots of football results

nolin

MSN

01:31

it's not actually a valid equation, but hypothetically, anything divided by nothing results in an identical integer

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:32

unless it wasnt an integer

nolin

MSN

01:32

well, clearly

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:32

(lol)

01:32

but seriously

01:32

as the nhumber one divides by lessens, the result greatens

nolin

MSN

01:33

yes, i am fully aware of that

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:33

0 is infinitely small

nolin

MSN

01:33

but, if there is literally nothing to divide by, then the number will remain the same

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:33

nonono

nolin

MSN

01:33

0 is not infinitely small, it is an 'absolute'

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:33

think about it in real terms

nolin

MSN

01:34

if you wanna fuck with my statistics a level, go for it

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:34

if i have an apple, and noone to split it with, nothingness gains applitude

01:34

if you want to fuck with my further maths statistics alevel, have a banana

01:34

i got an e

01:35

but i took the bastard

nolin

MSN

01:35

there is no such thing as 'nothingness' though. you are implying that 'nothing' is tangible, when it clearly isn't

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:35

no, im refering to the concept of nothingness

nolin

MSN

01:35

how can there be a concept of nothingness?

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:35

theres a word for it

nolin

MSN

01:36

when nothing is inherently devoid of anything to take a handle upon

01:36

at the end of the day, mathematically speaking, 1/0 = 1

I HAVE A NEW MSN ADDRESS AND AM PHASING THIS ONE OUT. ADD "CHRISTOPHER.ALCOCK@GMAIL.COM". HE IS SEXY

MSN

01:36

my hand is inherently devoid of bananas right now#

01:36

so:

01:36

1/1=1/0

01:36

therefore 1=0

nolin

MSN

01:37

## i can do a bit of maths

alc**k is right but not quite.

as you get smaller and smaller denominators 1/x tends towards infinity, however this cannot be reached.

if you half the number each time (1/1... 1/0.5... 1/0.25......) you get bigger and bigger but cannot reach 1/0. it is undefinable,

## BUT!

0 is an absolute, therefore the equation isn't undefinable, it's just physically impossible.

therefore, 1 remains the same.

## however

it is arguable that 0 doesn't exist. you cannot have 0 beans, you can have 1 bean or 2 beans, but if you have 0 beans you don't have any and the idea of 0 beans is void. the romans refused to acknowledge 0 and mnay maths people see it as just a way of making things easier. it doesn't actually exist and so cannot be divided by.

## so, therefore

the initial integer, 1, remains the same.

therefore i am correct.

## no

you are still dividing it by something. that process needs to be done but cannot.

i don;t know if this is my favourite thread ever or worst thread ever.

## no it doesn't

the equation isn't undefinable but the anser sure as hell is.

## answer*

## how can you define an equation

when one half of it doesn't exist?

## whoah

do macs not have a "0" button?

## yes, don't be ridiculous

but 0 is a way of expressing something that isn't actually there. you get me blud?

## and infinity is its inverse

## explain your "therefore"

its like "its a tricky question, so the answer is just one of the components of the question"

## i mean

surely it makes a lot more sense to answer an impossible question with an impossible answer, ie infinity?

## shouldnt that be in the "crap claims to fame" thread?

## clarification

if you want to find 1/0, following my method, you just double the answer from the previous step (so 1... 2... 4...). this is easy, but there is no jump you can make that will take you from 1/4597863245874652736092875283765 to 0.

## ok:

ten divided by three is three point three recurring.

three point three recurring times 3 is nine point nine recurring.

therefore nine point nine recurring is equal to ten.

zero point zero recurring with a one at the end is equal to zero

one divided by zero point zero recurring with a one at the end is infinitely large, as the zeroes are infinite, such is the wonder of recurringness.

one divided by zero is infinity

## it's not definable

it tends to infinity but doesn;t reach it.

ithink we should draw a line under this and "theo?" it tomorrow.

## exactly

it doesn't reach it, therefore it is undefinable.

## thankyou

i should have put my further maths a-level to more use here.

## *cough*

how can something recurr, but still have a one at the end?

you do the maths.

## i cant type it here

but really, 1.0-with-a-dot-on-it1 does exist.

## one to the power of zero is

one.

like every number to the power of zero is.

## oh, that wasn't the maths.

hmm.

## lol

i think thats actually maybe what "crazy" colin is thinking of?

## wikipedia says

When division is explained at the elementary level, it is often considered as a description of partitioning a set of objects into equal parts. As an example, if you have 10 blocks, and you make subsets of 5 blocks, then you have created 2 equal sets. This would be a demonstration that 10/5 = 2. The divisor is the number of blocks in each set. The result of division answers the question, "If I have equal sets of 5, how many of those sets will combine to make a set of 10?"

We can apply this to show the problems of dividing by zero. It is not meaningful for us to ask, "If I have equal sets of 0, how many of those sets will combine to give me a set of 10?", because adding many sets of zero will never amount to 10. Therefore, as far as elementary arithmetic is concerned, division by zero cannot be defined.

## wikipedia is right as ever

you can't have piles of 0 that add up to anything, they will always be 0.

worst thread ever.

## :(

and i thought you and i had a breakthrough.

that's it. i'm going to bed.

## maths is fun!

honest.