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but if you happen to drive past me, and I have a brick in my hand I won't be responsible for my actions.
and unpatriotic. also i wont apologise for kicking yr face in after you throw the brice.
*old DiS in-joke alert*
I find there's nothing better then bricking some buses.
why would you throw stu brice (...) at adman's car? it would be horrible for both of them.
sacrifices have to be made... ;-D
because the one chance the country has to come together u get some sarcastic pricks knocking down the joy of everyone else.
everyone gets hopefull then we lose and they cry,
saw that particular smart car
I would tip it over.
but there is something I think psychologically flawed when you feel the need to display your 'patriotism' in such a mundane way.
I hope England do as well as anyone, but I'm not going to decorate my bike with a hanging basket
something really psychologically flawed about driving a smart car.
it's just something I've always felt the urge to do to one of them. the silly decoration would just add pleasure.
like tipping a really patriotic cow.
because it's displaying an inner need for attention.
Whenever I see those flags on the cars down my road, I always wonder if it's because they support Catalunyan independence. I like to think they do. It's a more worthwhile cause
man, thats crazy. im supporting my country. people like you is why this country are ashamed to show their patriotisim.
But I don't feel the need to show off to everyone about it and shove it down their throats.
with your BNP membership card?
im not a racist, i just wanna(want for bamos) support my team in the world cup.
the english flag is second only to the swastika as a sign of dodgyness
all this politically correct nonsense about not being able to display the English flag out of fear of being racist, due to its association with the BNP, is stupid.
By banning people from displaying the English flag you're just GIVING it to the BNP and soon that's ALL it will be associated with, and the problem of 'what the flag represents' is only going to get worse.
Im just saying that the flag has negative connotations that make me uneasy when I see it thats what the sad but true meant, it shouldn't be like that but it is, it should be reclaimed but football fans are hardly the ones to do it
ban there has been a fair bit of talk in the media recently about various companies banning their staff from displaying the George cross anywhere during the World Cup because it has racist connotations.
What I'm saying is that it's wrong to assume that everyone with the flag is racist. It's like saying no one should be called Nick Griffin because that name has racist connotations now. That may be a trivial example, but you can't let one group of idiots tarnish something for the rest of us.
and cheer with everyone else. In the pub. That's significantly more 'quintessentially English' than displaying a flag that the majority of the country doesn't believe in.
Flags are symbollic of division and pomposity and the idea of attaching one to your car is like putting a coat of arms on a horse and going into battle.
i am english, i support the england football team with all my blackened heart, but i steadfastly refuse to advertise the fact! why try and represent your own country, in your own country, it makes no sense to me.
Especially when the St George's flag is
a) nothing uniquely to do with England (St George is the patron saint of about half the world's countries). I associate it more with Catalunya.
b) adopted by skin-headed lunatics as some form of aggressive identity, whilst clearly holding racist undertones.
As I said above I will be supporting the English football team as much as anyone, but if I wear my Mexico shirt will that make me some kind of traitor to my nationality?
could be a tool to help unite the Muslim and Caucasian communities. But with it's current racist undertones there's no chance of that.
hmmm, the only good point behind it is comradery but as crablin pointed out, going to a bar and cheering with a group of mates is quintisentially the same.
people should be allowed to support their team in their own way, as long as it's positive and not aggressive or demeaning to other countries, without being called racist or nationalist or attention-seeking or whatever. Personally I'd rather show my support in a more subtle way, like watching the game and cheering with everyone else, but if someone wants to paint a flag on their car then why shouldn't they?
people have used that flag to divide races and nations for aeons.
surely a more modest approach is necessary in the country you're supporting. anywhere in fact?
plus, it looks really shit.
to you, and to me. But clearly to him it doesn't. And anyway we're not really discussing aesthetics here. I think it's very negative to see a flag as divisive. Surely in it's most ideal intention, it defines a nation and the vast diversity of people who live in that nation?
link the st. georges flag to the bnp. do u think its racist when it was raised up at the commonwealth games??
There's nothing racist about supporting a football team. This isn't patriotism, even. IT'S FOOTBALL! It's clearly related to the World Cup (assuming he paints it out afterward) and to associate it with racism is to be willfully perverse. I'd rather not deface my car with the boring old George Cross, but if he wants to, why persecute him?
not wilfully perverse when 36% of people who bare the flag ARE racist.
I agree we have a problem with race and identity coming from our colonial days, but I don't see how this can be confronted.
To look at every England flag during the world cup period and think "racist" is entirely unreasonable and silly.
even the World Cup yet! I don't think EVERY person who displays a flag is racist, but it's worth discussing the reasons different people do it.
a) children - this is acceptable because they get excited - and face painting blah blah
b) White van drivers - a different story - revolving around a culture of page 3 girls, carpentry and asylum seekers in the Daily Star
This is the fundamental difference
for "white van drivers"? Or are you saying that they shouldnt? I don't understand this post^^
there is nothing uniquely English about that stupid flag.
And yes I did deliberately make that figure up.
Come on England!
to a pink cross, because the racists will think it's to pansy totake up
so they might like it! Right on!
look at the front page of the sun today. i know its not intelligen tetc, but it caught my eye whilst at the newsagent earlier.
and btw, crablin, it does actually look quite good. that was a quick photo.
they pretend not to be, so a pink flag is really out of the question innit
START MAKING THE PINK FLAGS!
I like England enough (apart from the politics, and 70% of the population), but football fucking sucks the mighty ass
Its a round, inflated excuse for sweating pricks to grunt together in an orgy of stupidity.
Brute Luck, innit.
he is a funny guy. so angry.