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The reasons seem to be entirely arbitrary and dependant on who is starting a thread.
oops, sorry to take this thread away from it's intended purpose
perhaps BG we should state what we, as the DiS community feel are fair rules rather than asking the editor
deleted threads should be;
those that contain offensive or dangerous links
I saw something squirrel-related on the front of the paper...
I don't think anything should be deleted unless it contains offensive material. There is the obvious exception of when someone comes on the board and starts hundreds of threads that make the board unworkable.
the board vandalism threads too
links to dangerous sites, then fuck everything else...
This is now added to my list of annoying anger whoo haaaaaaaaaa.
it had a reference to on_tha_run and it was about bad grammar - it showed how some words are written back to front and was a Cambridge study about how the brain recognises certain words automatically, no matter how mispelt. I called the thread, 'AN ODE to ON_THA_RUN' and it was deleted in seconds. I sent a PM saying, "Fair enough, not to promote ON_THA_RUN but thought it was intersteing about grammar etc". I let it go but now it seems that there are a SHIT load of threads being deleted. Is this going to be deleted too???
threads shouldnt be deleted willy-nilly because maybe they are a bit silly or whatnot, that doesnt make them any less valid.
the "drugs" thread is still at the top. i'm sure the advertisers would love that!
Curse my stupid fingers.
Watch it. I'll start calling you metho as in metholated spirits...
kind of came across in the wrong way, as soon as i chose it
was a shortening of my last name that i lost
after the first few threads were deleted?
something about them not contributing to what a 'social' board should be about, and PR people looking at these boards and not taking DiS seriously after seeing so much nonsense.
I think thats awful, seriously. I cant quite put into words what I want to say here. But basically, ergh, disgusting!
have your say.
And if this is the case, then why is the DRUGS thread still up there?
when everythin wer' free
what i said. up there ^^^^
but if threads are getting deleted cos they dont fit in with what the advertisers/p.r's whatever think, then i'm sure they'd LOVE to see a thread advocating the use of class a's
about jumbled up letters but still being able to read the sentence? cos i got an email about that ages ago and thought it was brilliant. i want a link if anyone has it, which shows an example of this?
yes i'm sad ;)
Subject: Fw: Can You Read This???
>> > >Olny srmat poelpe can.
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>> > >I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd
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>> > >waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the
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>> > >hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde
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>> > >Uinervtisy, satets it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the
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>> > >ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is
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>> > >taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
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>> > >pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can
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>> > >sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the
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>> > >huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but
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>> > >the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? And I awlyas
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>> > >tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
Not that that's a reason for deletion.
DiS is broadly a youth culture site, and drugs are part of youth culture. theyd want their clicks from drug addicts as much as straightedgers.
the only thing advertisers would care about would be threads slagging off their product, or their adverts. you seem to be confusing it with a situation like with kate moss, where a brand is using another brand to be represent it. ie if it was GlaxcoSMithKlein Presents: Drownedinsound! and there were editorials about how great ketamine is.
the PRs thing is completely different. whether the majority of users notice it or not, DiS is a music reviews website. to get content via promos and interviews and guestlists, the editors need a good relationship wit bands PRs. and its possible that seeing the site as primarily a place where people talk about absolutely inane shit all the time will damage the credibility of the site within the industry, and make it harder to get the content and thus make the website better.
also, non users/new users will look at the social board and deduce that its a load of shit and never come back.
I ignore ALL forums because they are a load of shite, but something about DiS made me want to join in.
I like the inane banter and that makes me want to join in more than a thread about Bloc Party.
would lose out everytime to "i've just had a cup of tea" in my book
and so do I
as was said at the time, you surely just point said self-important PRs to the music board and the reviews?
In all honesty, if that's the genuine concern here the number of fluff news pieces (looking at the items in the list now, i see pieces on Shane Ward, Ludacris and Gareth Gates that don't really service any purpose) probably make the site look a lot worse than the posts on the Social board do.
but its pointless arguing. i've just accepted that alot of things i post will get deleted
that if there are a number of people using the social board, it shouldn't matter what they are discussing. Surely the fact they are on the site is enough as they will probably then look at other 'serious' parts of the site.
theres plenty of people who only use the social boards
who has the right to say what is and isnt suitable for a 'social' board? (unless its offensive/rude)when I am out 'socialising' all kinds of things come up iin conversation, even bananas and I dont think that our freedom of conversation should be restricted for the benefit of pr people, yes I understand you want the site to do well and whatever, but at the expense of the people who use DIS?
This stinks of THE MAN. And you know what? The man smells of poo!
but (just playing devils advocate here)DiS and all parts of it, including your profiles, are surely the property of Drowned in Sound Ltd (or whatever the company may be called) and they can do what they like with their(not our) website.
and that's bad.
but I do have freeview...Is that good enough?
get sky quick
to horrid porn videos before alcxxxxxxxk
everyone i email today is out of office
Actually I get a lot of disappearing threads more annoying is people not answering PMs - boo!
Am hurt. Really fucking hurt.
and what the fuck has that got to do with anything?
i just took GREAT delight in posting that.
And yes you have!
was in the infamous bangbang thread, where the topic turned to female ejaculation, and i posted a link video, telling everyone what it was, to demonstrate. now horrible about it.
is there EVER a good time to post links to hardcore porn on a website forum frequented by kids under the age of 15?
Was it a case of â€œeveryone was talking about ejaculation so I thought why the fuck notâ€?
difference between hardcore porn and a few swear words. Anyway, you are staff so i suppose you can do as you wish anyway. Why am i wasting my time?
the swearing is.
if people want to find porn, they will.
Posting a (probably ambigious) link to porn is pretty much the same as posting porn
wtf? it was in a very long and detailed thread about sex and vaginas, and i posted it as an example of something. jesus christ people.
you are so fucking up yourself that you seem to find it impossible to accept that you may have done something wrong. I hate repeating myself but here goes anyway. Just because everyone else is doing something it does not make it right (talking about vaginas) for a staffer such as yourself to come along and post a link to porn.
Your argument about it not being on the page is utterly fucking ridiculous. Kids WILL click that link, and they WILL see that porn clip. Imagine a staffer on the BBC site placing a link to similar to yours on their site. IMAGINE him trying to use the same argument to justify his actions. He would be fired instantly and you know it.
SO grow the fuck up, swallow your pride and admit you were wrong.
this board is supposed to be representative of how hip young happening people, like us, live our lives. However, life is sometimes banal, it is sometimes a bit slow, we sometimes want to have silly conversations about bananas. We can't be expected to have the world LOL-ing at our every utterance.
You only have to look at, for example, Mouldy's thread & Anschul's thread next to each other to see the DIverSity of this board.
There's a fine line between clever and stupid
he's calling ME stupid
Not really. I was just saying the fact that we can have serious political discussion and talk about bananas (LOL) on the same board is what makes this social board so good
there's no bigger mistake than confusing 'community' with 'concensus' - I should know, living in this Swedishland of sandy ostrich heads
but yo_soy makes a very good point indeed.
and why on earth should that get deleted?!?!?!?!
I called the thread something like, 'An ode to on_tha_run..' perhaps??
I too busy.
I delete threads when they are a waste of everyone's time. I can't see any that are today.
Let's go FRAG SOME ALIENS!
nah, argueing is good for the soul
Although, I can't really talk. I spelt dependent wrong.
I don't want to sound overly aggressive, but I, nor DiS owes anyone an explanation if a thread is deleted.
Now, who would like to make me some tea? I'm too rushed 'off my feet' to get one.
I'M GOING TO PORTSMOUTH TONIGHT.
and not really nice at all. For the record.
for the record.
Let's make it official then.
Why not? If I am not mistaken this isn't the first time you have said I come across as really irritatingand really, while it doesn't bother me at all... you can come across as quite aggressive yourself. Unless I am mistaking your tone of voice.. which is possible.. but yeah.. so be it and stuff...
but im not joking. dont really know why, aside from noty liking you, id be irritating.
I'd be irritated
What have I actually done to you personally? There are people on this board that shit me but I don't actually feel the need to come out and actually be rude about it. So what is your problem?
and re: "I don't actually feel the need to come out and actually be rude about it", i wouldnt have said you were irritating if you hadnt posted "That actually comes across as very dictorial, Crablin/and not really nice at all. For the record."
and has his own mouth, set of lungs, and brain. And if he felt the need, would respond in some way to me.
My posts probably come across as egocentrical because I have met and know a lot of people from London who write on this board and therefore am a bit personal... so yeah, agree they can be a bit about 'me' but well, shit, shoot me.
and flies off in invisible jet...
Sorry - nice try.
bully at times can't you.
That's your take on it.
For me, it's a case of not having time to explain every decision who are just going to disagree with me and tell me I'm wrong anyway. Why should I?
I think you'll find that on the whole, I do explain myself or the decisions of moderators, but I'm under no obligation to do so.
I think the occasional thread about how you open a banana are about a 100th as damaging to the site's 'credibility' as 'open letters' to Will Young and the Zutons in the music forum, even if I happen to agree with them and LOL at their content. *shrug*
my comments on that front have been taken wildly out of context and to be frank, it's a view i a) no longer hold and b) certainly wouldn't adhere to today after the way some cunty PRs have been over the last 48 hours.
but people somtimes are perplexed at why things go missing.
ho hum :(
if there was any kind of consistency over what gets deleted. As it is, nobody seems to know why threads get deleted and the moderators end up looking like jumped-up idiots.
would owe you no explanation if we all just upped and left one day out of annoyance
just a thought
You're absolutely right.
i like it!
i love you :D
THREAD DELETE REQUEST!
but whether you OWE anyone an explanation is irrelevant in my opinion. An explanation would just be nice.
Necro - 'The Sexorcist'
Yo its necro the sexorcist, the porn king, show me your breasteses, im the best there is the foul shit, bounce with me, degrading, depraving, debouchery, your naked on the couch with me. Bitch getting fucked in your ass thru your fishnets. cutting queefs, your bound to eat shit next. A tit fest, Iâ€™m fucking dumb blondes til my dick is numb hoe lick the scum sticking a gun in your cunt for fun. Fakin making believe Im raping you choking you makes you cum. Its edge play, be careful, fuck around and murder you by mistake and leave you dead in the bed slayed. Not my intentions. Youâ€™ll lick prick til your lips rip the hips split in your cryptic. Explicit, sadistic, innuendos sluts in the windows bimbos dipped in timbos. Short black leather skirts, stomach tattoo, glitter panties sexy belt had to have you. Ridiculous pussy lips I predicted you be addicted to my dick once you lick it. Bent you over backwards upside down reverse is more perverse fucked on the floor first. To a raw verse rippin your clothes off blow my nose off on your hair then I doze off.
What's Your name (Whats Your Name)
Who's Ya Daddy? (Who's Ya Daddy?)
Be real, is He Rich Like me?
Has he Taken, Anytime (Anytime),To Show, To Show You what You Need
The raunchiest, flaunt your tits. Im the horniest fornicating, torturing clits a porn genius. With a long penis diggin' up your organs jiggin you, stabbing you, friggin you, Im to big for you. You got a tight sphincter, you need one in the pink and one in the stink, lyrical magentas Drippinâ€™ outta your ass ill cum in your drink. piss in your face spit in your mouth fuck what you think. Shit on your blouse, then kick you outta my house naked and slut take it thatâ€™s what initiations about. An official occasion to go all out, fuck a bitch in the ass â€˜til her colon falls out. Rubbinâ€™ oil all over you fat round ass, smack it, abuse it, lick it, and pound it fast. Stick it continuously when I get in you I strenuously pin you to the floor and generously fuck your G spot rapidly, happily, dapily to the boombapity beat. the sexorcist, the next to blitz so blow up some bitch go get your hair fixed prepare your lips. So fellatio your spacey hoe, the ratio of your brain to infusable is way too low your made to blow youâ€™re a delicious nutritious dish of fish an official bitch.
*group porno orgy hug*
is my favourite chat up line.
loved it too!!!!!
My, my, my, my music hits me so hard
Makes me say oh my Lord
Thank you for blessing me
With a mind to rhyme and two hot feet
Feels good when you know you're down
A super dope homeboy from the Oaktown
And I'm known as such
And this is a beat uh you can't touch
I told you homeboy, you can't touch this
Yeah, that's how we livin' and ya know,
you can't touch this
Look in my eyes man, you can't touch this
You know let me bust the funky lyrics, you canâ€™t touch this
Fresh new kicks and pants
You got it like that now you know you wanna dance
So move out of your seat
And get a fly girl and catch this beat
While it's rollin' hold on
Pump a little bit and let me know it's going on
Like that, like that
Cold on a mission so fall on back
Let 'em know that you're too much
And this is a beat uh you can't touch
it just kinda goes on after this...
Now if you want to come and get it...
are you kids still sleeping? What is new with you?
as it has mentioned on_tha_run and had bile directed in all directions haha
this now. can we tlak about bananas again?
The lanlord owes no explanation to the locals if he wants to close early / bar them etc but at the same time the pub wouldn't be the place it is without the locals. So unoffically the locals hold some influence.
Crablin is only doing his job. He's paid to moderate, whereas we all post 'cos we want to. So every now and again he has to take the authoritive line, but in turn DiS has gotta respect it needs it's regular visitors.
Fucking difficult situation really. One that'll always create tension.
Mmm, this post didn't help much did it?
but this pub is more like one that was built to hold 100 people where 150 regularly try and squeeze through the door - and then some just try and piss through letter box (but they got banned recently so that's OK)
community politics eh?
personally, I kind of like the aggro but not the agitators
and to be honest it's all good for DiS - all relationships have to come to conflict points before they can deepen
it's less good for the bosses of the people who post on here while they're supposed to be working though - but I couldn't care less about that...
pays him to moderate this site??
I think you're a liar.
i think you really, really, really have ahuge responsibility to explain your motivation for deleting threads. Really I do. And I agree with roseKitten about an earlier comment coming across as very dictatorial.
Have some threads on the music boards been deleted too? I swear I posted on 'an open letter to open letters' the other day (started by thom_fa, i remeber this sort of thing) but when i went to read it, I coudn't find it anywhere...?
I don't. I don't have time to explain why now, but in essence, this board doesn't belong to anyone other than Sean.
It's wonderful you've made it all your own and I love that, but part of my job is to ensure the community ebbs and flows nicely and people are comfortable here.
Yes, I deleted that thread, Sean has already posted 'Please stop the open letters' and thread was still posted anyway.
I love Ren & Stimpy.
if you don't watch it... quick... run and hide... fast
I thought more of you than petty comments like that.
There's not mushroom in here.
immature level there.
Withdrawn officially for the record.
(no sarcasm there, either).
This place is lovely most of the time, but sometimes I feel it's run slightly unfairly. It's often you, the editor, who starts these balls rolling. I think it's your responsibility to set an example to the rest of us, and if not then please set us some rules for us, the readers and users to follow. You have posted a few silly threads yourself, which is why you probably should explain why such threads go missing without a trace. I am not trying to cause a hoo ha, this is simply feedback, whether you want to agree with me or not.
I don't think an explanation is needed, but I think maybe some guidelines as to what is acceptable and what is not might keep punters happy rather than having a thread such as this one...
Most announcements are for social activities anyway...
but still announcements.
there will be no merging.
the social board is for people who have been brought together by a shared interest in Drownedinsound and the music it covers to talk about things that arent music related. i dont mind board regulars plugging their gigs in the social section, but if you were to go to the announcements section, youd see that the majority of posts are by people who have just signed up to plug a gig and be on their merry way. itd be shit in every possible way to merge them. the social board would be flooded and people who just want to have a look over some upcoming gigs would have to wafe through banana threads.
I did actually look through. And you're partly right.
I agree with Colin's point that no one should have special right to post an announcement here, but also that board existed before the Social one, the idea being that it should remove such 'spam' posts from the Music forum.
But look at it this way: We have a social board that rarely discusses any gig outside London because most of us who've met live here. But if people were posting about a gig in Nottingham or something like that then maybe people would post on it and say "Yeah, I might go and see that".
Threads in the social forum that no one posts on just kind of sink anyway. Most people don't trawl back more than a few pages looking for ancient threads either...
there aren't that many threads that aren't interesting to read on here. There are occasional 'days' that are shit where everyone posts a shand-and-such thread. But aside from that, it's generally good shit.
but spam is not..
magpieboy. I will repond
maybe it was deleted on purpose to make that Stalinist point!
i didnt see that thread.
these private jokes noone else gets, or can't get unless they're on here 24/7, are exactly the kind of thing that gives DiS it's cliquey, nonsense talking community reputation.
I DEMAND FOR ALL REFERENCES TO THIS TO BE DELETED...
You made it up, so remember the I!!!!
SU,E also makes sense
but it's silly.
It's all silliness as far as I'm concerned.
"i did the opposite of ROFL and I Stood Up, Emotionless" and things took off from there.
that makes sense. and in the context too!
I understand! I'm back with the programme. I should really have said "wut?" after marco mentioned it really...
thanks 'shpig, thanks meths.
SU, E and look stunned. All together now.
i love bananas
so long as people are posting on a thread and keep replying to it (even if it is silly and mundane) then it shows that it's the kind of thread the users of the social board want to see, and it therefore probably shouldn't be deleted.
Obviously there are exceptions to this, like if it's alleging that @#**! likes to %@;\* with a %$&* on ##@*, or if it's complete nonsense.
And you're flying off the handle at Crablin for little reason.
I think a "read before posting" stickie might be quite good though.
that sounds like it'd need some changes to the forum.
you'll have to submit a change request. wait until they have enough money to pay matt. have it prioritised against other developments like changing photos.
better get clicking those ads or nothing will happen.
to %@;\* out the other night, shes really let herself go
interfere with dogs on his webcam
but that is a very funny childish thing to say! Let's just laugh - this is cyber world.. nothing is reall.. I am actually a princess - like totally rich, and live in a palace etc...
Thanks for sticking up for me though
not with DiSers, anyhooooooooo ;-)
Just a woman who has been around the block a few times
*pours glass of champagne
*sticks on Ella Fitzgerald
*sits on chaise lounge
You don't mention that you're naked while you do all of the above (now THAT would be classy)
Wearing one of those 50s style floor length silk house coats...
but he needs to format his hard drive if he values his freedom...
If I do a thread saying "Bishi is playing on Saturday at some big party, who wants to come?" on the social board, is that plugging? I'm not involved with the night or anything.
i guess that could be seen as plugging by some. of course there is an easy way around it anyway.
say we are talking about Napoleon IIIrd playing in London, obviously yr involved with them so advertising the gig overtly would be plugging.
however, if you made a topic saying "Anyone for drinks before Napoleon IIIrd" its now a 'social' thing, even though you are covertly plugging it.
thats how i view it anyway.
that gives me an idea.
if a DiS rule book is derived from this thread, that will be a sad sad day indeed.
I mean, unless it's porn, offensive etc, then surely it's utterly pointless?
Is anybody assessing the 'quality' of an internet forum? And does the role of editor involve picking and choosing what the readers can and cannot say?
The disappearance of threads on DiS doesn't particularly bother me - it's an internet forum, afterall - but a persons apparent 'need' to effectively gag a (extremely loyal) readership is baffling
Sorry to come across all Traynor, but I have no truck with internet censorship in general. Especially on a website that, up until recently gaining some brilliant and well-deserved mainstream press attention, could boast a completely ungoverned community
* supurbly demonstrated point.
sensitive indie types should perhaps peruse some other forums and see what goes on.
People = way more offensive
Mods = way, way more dictatorial. Way more.
(I believe I was meant to spell that 'rly' for effect)
Just that there's a lot more twats on other forums and, perhaps as a consequence, moderators ban more people and delete more threads than is strictly necessary, partly due to egotism and partly due to the treat of legal action.
This place isn't anywhere near that yet. It amazed me when I read somewhere the other day that DiS was up its own arse because that's the last thing I think about it.
So you only posts on threads that are actually worth your time?
For somebody with 10,000 plus posts to tell other people to re-evaluate their life is...
*supply your own word*
on the social board are a complete waste of time.
That's the whole fucking point.
That's why a lot of us are here every day.
And I agree completely, certain threads "I'm going home", "JAG", "What soup shall I buy?" etc are laughably pointless
But if Crablin is aiming on eradicating every thread deemed 'pointless', he's got a very busy job on his hands. Might as well just leave it, rather than start something he'll never finish*
We're now discussing (at length) threads that are 'pointless and a waste of time'. Is the irony not lost on anybody else?
*sounds much more serious/menacing than it actually is
who could you mean????
Is anyone thinking about the children?
but you've put me off now.
that might have been a good thing.
(DiSclaimer - no doubt they were all over 18 and only pretending to be children)
I think someone should make a thread called:
JDTraynor is a cunt.
Then someone should make one called:
Crablin is a cunt.
Will both be deleted?
I don't think either of them are cunts, by the way.
Also, does anyone find they tend to type cunt more than they use it in reality. I never say it.
Apart from with your main point.
Martbowski's threads, remember? He made them about everyone, with fairly funny, witty paragraphs about us all.
Ahhh... I win.
he ran out fairly quickly...
You fat baby.
i was most upset...
You speak with limp authority, like a gay policeman.
Who tells you this?
And if Colin Roberts comes on saying 'I did.' now, I'll know that you just went and got him to stick up for you to win.
GOSH, fight your own battles.
Its fair enough, but if it affects 'business' then its well within CoLOLin and seans remit to do the dirty and delete, Its a wierd kind of censorship as its Censoring the people so the media (i.e PRs and record companies) don't see it as opposed to the other way round, but they're protecting their livelihood, so we can't really complain as we reap the benefits.
So however uneasy it may sit with you, there is little that can be done.
i think people wouldn't mind posts getting deleted as long as they knew why they were getting deleted. If there was any site policy on the sort of thing that is exceptable on any of the boards, people wouldn't mind if their posts were being deleted. As people don't know what is allowed and not allowed on each board they are bound to get annoyed if their particular post is deleted. I apologise if this has been mentioned before.
drunk or no drunk
obviously i have the power to speak with insight even while drunk. i'm currently downloading the new regina spektor album, i'm hoping it's fantabulous.