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haven't seen the film, but has nayone here read the book? It's my christmas read, and oh my, it's soo good!
Was really good.
Haven't read the book, might give it a look.
the characters use 'nadsat' in the film? the special language? I imagine it'd be amazing to watch
there's not as much of the 'youth speak' in the film because it would make it unnecessarily complicated. But there is enough to make it distinctive. I find the speech (particularly McDowells) a little 'Carry On' in its delivery in the film.
the book is better. As is generally the case.
the film is very true to the book in all ways except:-
-in the film the last chapter of the book (which presumably you've not read yet) is not shown, I prefer this ending, and apparently it is thought that the author didn't want to include this last chapter but the publishers required a "happy" ending.
-in the film, alex and his droogs are older than 14... it would have been a minefield trying to film rape scenes with 14 year olds
then watched the film, they're both ace. When you read the book, you can't help thinking everything in nadsat for about a week after.
is undoubtelyd better
The book is far superior. I don't buy the film being true to the book either. Anthony Burgees hated what Kubric did with his work. Nadsat almost veils the violence in the book and well in the film its plain to see. Oh yeah and they only changed the fckng ending as well.
For the record i like both but get two completely different experiences from them.
I really liked the book, but I'm a massive fan of Stanley Kubrick, and ultimately I think I prefer neither: there's bits that are better in both. Kubrick's London is brilliantly realised and he handles things very well, but to keep things the same as the book would have been going too far: ultimately it is still taboo to have a 15 year old raping two 10 year olds, no? There's things you just can't show on film.
is the very essence of "A Clockwork Orange" and the reason both the book and the film are so well-regarded.
Frankly I'd be cautious to praise either, at least excessively. Kubrick's film is technically superb, which is what you expect I guess. Although it does run out of steam towards the end. Given how striking those first 40 minutes are it seems bizarre that it would end in such a muddle.
In fact, I must confess I found both the book and the film to be intolerbly confused, which is kind of unforgiveable given just how powerfully their "statement" is made. What are they trying to say? Are they making a point about rights, freedoms and moral responsibility, like we're led to believe they are? If so, then what is that point? Why the ridiculous karmaic twist in the second half? Why brutalise the audience with Alex's voilence and then act so apprehensively towards it later on? Not questions I can immediately find any answers to.
Also, I can't help shaking the feeling that the whole thing is just one great big joke. At the audience's expense. Which if it were true would strike me as arrogant in the extreme. This is especially evident in the film. Think about it: Rape to the tune of "Singing in the Rain" because it was the only song Malcolm MacDowell knew by heart. Self-conscious use of phallic symbols in almost every scene (I mean, fighting someone with a giant cock sculpture? Honestly). Crazy camp electronic version of Beethoven 9 on the soundtrack... On repeated viewings it feels like a satire of Freud-obsessed "importance" in art-films... but not in a good way. As a viewer you come away feeling mocked and loathed. Perhaps the ultimate sign comes at the film's conclusion: Alex wallows in his ultimate fantasy of violent, sexual male-ness, only for us to cut to the original "Singing in the Rain" as the first title card appears. It's the ultimate filmmaker's joke.
But all the same, you can't deny its power. I've always found it difficult to take in, given the confilcting feelings it provokes in me. Whatever, I'll shut up now...
....get a headache every time you watch a film. My friends and family say I think too much and end up spoiling it for them but I got nothing on you.
I think the point of the book and film is much simpler than what you suggest. It is a coming of age story using shocking extremes. When youâ€™re young youâ€™ll do some crazy things but youâ€™ll grow out of it and witness it in the next generation. The imagery yeah does hint at loads of other things but I do believe this is the essence of the story.
I know this is kind of saying the sky is blue but hey Iâ€™m not as smart as you.