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also, tarry conditions stop play at the first pre-season game
also, Trent Richardson OUT
what else then
gain some sort of quiet confidence in the Lions and think they'll do okay.
This year, I think they will be arse.
I'd happily settle for "about the same as last year without the mortifying fuckups", to be honest
It is known.
watching whoever does win the division crash and burn in the playoffs. Especially if it's the Cowboys.
It's not been the best choice of my life.
I was railroaded into it for family reasons, so at least that way I have in-laws to complain with.
Brady goes Favre-second-season-at-Vikings. and he ain't there yet
*looks at rest of AFC East*
Oh well, maybe next year.
Texans also have that mix of a pathetic division and a talented roster that can carry a team a long way.
but Panthers, Seahawks, Cardinals. AFC teams seem to have problems at the top, but I guess Pats are only impinged at the start, and they'll come good.
Raiders and Jets to take a good step forward - can see the Jets really pushing hard, especially if they can get out to a good start and NE falter. Cowboys should be excellent on O, and I think the Vikings will be better but with the same (in-season) record. May well go further in post-season though.
Was fucking amazing, as a Cards fan.
and in a way I didn't like it quite as much as last year's hard knocks, though i'd be hard pressed to say why? but it was still really really good.
made me happy to have the Cards as my 3rd team (as half my gf's family are big Cards fans) (after the 2 other teams I don't really support)
might get the gf to bring me back a honey badger jersey this summer actually
*blows off cobwebs*
here is your summary and bits to read about Eric Fisher and Joey Bosa https://thelongsnapper.wordpress.com/2016/08/08/the-checkdown-lose-a-bosa/
sorry I didn't see your Twitter message, I've had a lot on recently, but am happy to resume RTP when the season kicks off, if you're still keen.
I think the Vikings D will be even better and if Bridgewater makes marginal improvements they could have a nice playoff run. The superbowl talk is premature and that they overachieved slightly last year, but a trip to the NFC title game isn't out of the question if all goes well.
Although the 1st round pick is likely done for the year, Tyler Eifert has another vague injury that seems like it could keep him out for ages, defensive end depth is essentially non-existent and it's likely that Brandon LaFell is going to be a starter so I'm not exactly doing cartwheels but the team's a model of health and organisation compared to the majority of the AFC so they should still be good enough for the annual wildcard disappointment.
It's still too early to predict who will/won't be any good but I'd be amazed if the 49ers weren't absolute arse this year. Even Cleveland have more offensive talent than they do.
The amount of picks they've used on defence the last few years have given me some hope but I still think we'll be thin at CB this season unless Artie Burns ends up having an amazing rookie year. Really fancy Ryan Shazier to break out this season though.
Some of the shine has been taken off the offense with the suspensions of Martavis Bryant and Le'Veon Bell but we should be ok with DeAngelo Williams and Wheaton/Coates/DHB.
Baltimore will be healthier this year and the Cinci games will be their usual bloodbaths so who knows how the AFC North will play out but anything less than 10 wins would be disappointing.
But I think playoffs are a bit beyond Chicago this season, all things being equal. On that front, the Grasu injury at C has made the Slausen release even more annoying, although tbf the 2 guys (Ramirez and Chandler) brought in to challenge/backup Grasu have retired since the Slausen release. Still, bleurgh. Main thing would have been to see if Gasu was a piece moving forward - mixed first season, but he wasn't supposed to be thrown in so early, and good signs from camp. Hard to know without actual game footage though.
Optimistic about having a really fun front 7. Wavering about O-line. Pessimistic about TEs.
but still don't think we'll win 8 games.
there's a smattering of genuinely good players around the place. Brees obviously, but Cam Jordan and Terron Armstead are great, and Delvin Breaux and Brandin Cooks are very much on the up too. Kenny Vaccaro got a lot better through the last two-thirds of the season too
it's just...there's not really any one dominant area of the team. i don't trust the defensive schemes or depth, though at least up front should be a lot better this year. it just seems like we've got exactly the sort of team that should be able to pick apart weaker teams, but will get pulverised by the better ones. we don't have it in us to shock the top teams if we're at our best.
main feeling is of how much longer will Brees be here (unsigned past this season still!) and what comes next? if he isn't back next year, we could have a league-worst record in 2017 and maybe use a #1 pick in 2018 on Josh Rosen I guess?
not that nice.
Whoever gets Deshaun Watson next year is in for a treat, he's a great college player to watch.
"two years ago he and some friends rearranged a neighbor's lawn ornaments in sexually suggestive positions"
and the Fuck Trump t-shirt is funny
but yeah, he seems like a spoilt rich kid. so you'd expect two more years of college football will either see that stick and him Hackenberg it, or him grow up a bit and improve some more
I mean, compared to Jameis or someone, he's practically loveable.
It's all about pro kabbadi now.
I'll start the thread.
I haven't paid for it yet or anything so not totally sure it's on, but we'll see.
Giants do not look like they're gonna cut him despite a "no-tolerance" policy on domestic violence
Cool cool cool
for domestic violence and dangerous weapons offences.
And so we promptly signed... noted gun enthusiast and pot-plant hider, Andrew Quarless. It's not even like he's a stud player worth the risk (like Greg Hardy might have been at one stage). He might not even make the team. What's the fucking point?
the feeling seems to be that they'll cover week 1, and if the story continues to gain traction in the media, possibly replace Brown entirely. Seems morally solid.
Before they resigned him to a two-year contract this Summer.
McAdoo said it's a case-by-case thing (which obviously isn't quite zero tolerance) so I guess the fact the court threw the case out is their justification in this case.
pretty, pretty good.
'you better bring the shit!' so motivational.. such insight :D
i done some NFL previews for NFC and AFC South and North
also i done wrote a longer, more mealy-mouthed preview for someone else's website, all about the Saints, because i need a hobby http://theinsidezone.com/2016/08/19/2016-preview-new-orleans-saints-ten-years-since-the-blocked-punt/
this was before Keenan Lewis got cut. Saints have about $35m in dead money this season. we're a joke
I'm gutted about Kikaha, Rankins and Anthony (have a feeling the latter could be out longer than expected, everyone is being a bit shady with it). Was excited to see the two 2nd year guys kick in after good rookie years and though I don't watch much college ball, I've only heard good things about Rankins. It's kind of a final redemption shot for Fairley though so hopefully he'll step up.
The Gleason block was on Monday Night Football right? I assume that's why they've moved the Atlana game there, so although it won't be to-the-day it'll still be symbolic. That Mauti punt block against Atlanta last year felt a bit like the tribute play given Gleason was there watching.
I'm not expecting too much from this year. Just hoping to be a bit more competitive, and excited to watch some of the younger guys like Armstead, Snead, Breaux and Thomas. Don't even want to think about the post-Brees Saints :(
Brandon "flag-on-the-play" Browner
so, it could've either been ten years to the day since, or ten years and the same day of the week since.
yeah, i was trying to work out how to fit the Mauti block in, and then i decided i'd already written enough and gave up on it.
also, don't want to think about the post-Brees Saints, but it's not like we're going to get anywhere with Brees anyway. not that it's his fault - Mickey Loomis has hit his head on too many car doors to even grasp the basics of building a roster. and i'm not sure i'd have faith in the current team to draft the 'right' quarterback.
I don’t believe in Brock Osweiler either, but the addition of Lamar Miller is probably worth a mention. With Foster missing most of the last season the Texans were lacking a dynamic threat at RB which they could now have again. I'm slightly more optimistic on the Jaguars and slightly less optimistic on the Colts than you are.
"If you don’t love Cam Newton, you’re probably reading the wrong UK-based, under-read, NFL blog."
Oh, wish I'd known this before I started reading. Seriously though, as you point out this was the first season that he put it all together and this was without much to work with at WR. Are these two things related though? Other quarterbacks certainly need offensive weapons around them to be productive, but Cam may be better without them as he has more freedom to play to his own strengths.
aka the vaguely decent ones, even if the final result itself doesn't matter.
Aside from your own team, any games here grab the eye? I'm (grudgingly - it is the Dallas hype train after all) looking forward to finally seeing Elliot play behind that line, especially against Seattle's front 7, despite the various players being rested. LA-Denver mayyyybe, as it will feature newbie starting QBs in some shape. And then the New York bowl (or whatever it's called) would probably be my 3rd (4th including Chicago-KC) port of call.
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of colour"
It has been well received as expected.
"I will be STANDING during the National Anthem tonight. Thank you to ALL (Gender,Race,Religion)that put your lives on the line for that flag"
"Easy way to make sure you're NOT the starting QB on opening day. #Sept11"
"My big cuz took a bengals flag up on a mission in hostile territory. But, thanks for defending the flag that really matters, even for the people who don't appreciate it! 🇺🇸"
"This guy is a joke. Get lost. You don't like it in a country that has given you opportunity to succeed? Then get out"
I did like Mina Kimes' response to a Rep. though
On one hand he's got a point and it's a perfectly legitimate protest. Most of the sensible people have rightly said the flag he's protesting represents his right to protest that flag. Plus anything that makes Chip Kelly squirm as he faces any questions about race is an objective Good Thing.
On the other hand, he's a colossal attention seeking twat who once tried to use a fatal flood in Houston to promote his ridiculous hashtag brand and is in genuine danger of being cut in favour of a Blaine Gabbert/Christian Ponder combo, so might be using this as a reminder that he exists. Think the only thing I'm sure of in this whole situation is that I fucking hate Colin Kaepernick.
I was trying to remember why he was already such a controversial figure. couldn't think if it was something truly awful (Big Ben kind of thing, or other violent criminal types), or just general douchebaggery.
Because I normally love what he does - I guess he's what terrible people would call "trashy" in a manner unbecoming of a quarterback? So you see terrible memes with a picture of eli or whatever other white qb visiting kids in hospital, next to a picture of kaep posing with massive chains on.
Man might still be a bit of a berk, I haven't read the entire book on him, but I like the guy.
But I've always hated him. I think he's the only NFL player I despise who's never killed or raped anyone.
well I think I'm going with fidel, here. I don't know if this is a full on Kanye-type thing generally, but I feel like I'm #teamCK.
and extensive charitable contributions, apparently
The "best-case scenario" is returning by mid-season.
anyone remember how well he did in the "Likeable QB rankings"? he should've been pretty high
harsh times for Minnesota. i know they're run-first but that needs a steady figure at QB to keep it ticking over and to keep the pass a viable threat. Shaun Hill wasn't that in St Louis in 2014
He was definitely up there. What was there to dislike? Plus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IzgUGZ4nVw / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=API-5sU9CBs
The various vikes fans here would know better than me, but really looked like he was going to be given a chance to air it out a bit more this year, and his connection with Diggs looked like it might be next level. Fingers crossed he makes a full recovery asap.
Seems like one of the good guys. Any time you hear "Non-contact injury" you think ACL now.
*Not his nickname as far as I can tell, but should be.
jesus, tho. like The Excession says, you'd have thought that would have come from unwisely practising sacking your franchise QB really, really hard, but from just planting his foot? yeesh.
Cut after 5 miserable years of fair catches and negative yardage punt returns. His replacement (unless Big Marv wants our oldest, most talented and most fragile cornerback returning punts, which isn't out of the question) is this little ball of fun:
by PFF. Was tied 2nd in 2013 among KRs/PRs
(wee bit early for this, but I'm on holiday from tomorrow until after the season opener)
NY Giants 9-7
Green Bay 11-5
New Orleans 9-7
Tampa Bay 8-8
San Francisco 4-12
New England 11-5
NY Jets 9-7
Kansas City 10-6
San Diego 7-9
NFC Champions - Arizona
AFC Champions - New England
Super Bowl winners - Arizona
MVP - Aaron Rodgers
DPotY - Luke Kuechly
RotY - Zeke Elliot (although those in the know will say it should have been Ronnie Stanley)
I can see Falcons finishing bottom, yeah. but I think people might be surprised.
I'd like to think there would be at least another 8-8 season.
think NFC South is going to be very strong this year.
Quinn's ideas having had time to take root, maybe.
unfancied as usual, but very capable of upsetting predictions.
Had to make the maths balance though, and I always seem to lean towards teams being good.
Think TB will improve with a 2nd year Winston, and I think NO will get better now that Ryan's not on the D, and the receivers are another year into working with Brees. Stacked against that, Atalanta get Green Bay on top of Arizona and Seattle, and I think the AFC West is going to be strong this year (certainly no gimmes). Matt Ryan needs to improve from last year, Julio is a BEAST, but not convinced by anything else in the passing game, and I guess I'm not as convinced by others about Freeman being more than a half season wonder - think he's fine, but not Gurley level of elevating the O on his own. Quinn will no doubt help a lot, but just not impressed by the talent on the defence.
he did look good very briefly before Freeman made everyone forget he existed.
can't really speak on Freeman's longevity. I also haven't looked at how the offense is shaping up otherwise this year. we really need our passing game going to do anything.
really my main worries are from how the divisional rivalries all look threatening, and the schedule is grueling as you point out.
but then going on to win the Superbowl. What happens in the playoffs?
Just think they might be a bit slower out of the gates than Seattle, though I do think they're a coin flip. Mathieu might have to feel his way back in a bit - iirc he took a bit of time to get back up to his high standards after his last injury, and he makes such a difference to them.
Palmer could equally just shit the bed in the playoffs again. He might be better for having gotten to the championship game last season - be able to approach it better. It's probably more likely to be Seattle or New England again, but I hate the same old teams winning it. If Osweiler is league average, Houston could be in with a shout.
The 4 game suspension for Brady just makes them angry and that will help them raise their game. The NFC is harder to call but I like Green Bay at the moment.
tbh, if the patriots can get to the playoffs with the majority of their team healthy (particularly Brady, Gronk and maybe Collins and Hightower), they're probably gonna be AFC favourites regardless of their seeding.
Green Bay look like they'll be good, and massively benefit from the Teddy disaster, just not sure about them up against the elite teams. Getting 2014 Nelson and Lacy would be massive.
But thought in case people are interested there's a guy on twitter who I follow for horse racing stuff who posts his mate's NFL bets each week, and he's got a pretty good strike rate in case anyone's interested in anything like that
I've literally just put on a bunch of £1 bets as I had to top up my betting account or it'd close (hadn't used it for a year).
Was just gonna call 5 games a week and see how far I got, but I'll check this out
anyone else a bit surprised by how enthusiastic all NFL media types seem to be for Winston, having apparently forgotten completely the fact that he almost definitely raped someone and had it covered up by local police and his university?
every mention of 'jameis looks great' should be followed up by 'shame he's a terrible human who shouldn't be playing in the nfl'
but then that could be said for a lot of players tbh
with Rosenthall, I think, enthusing about him, who I'd always thought of as more sensible than that. Like, are they briefed to chuck it down the memory hole and act as if it never happened, or do they just not give a shit?
maybe i'll bring it up
for all that they were tedious you'd have thought that would keep them from this sort of behaviour
in contrast to how they all treated Ben Roethlisberger?
NFL seems to attract a certain subset of oxygen-thieves who'd cheer for fucking Ted Bundy if he had a 4-TD game
but you'd expect attitudes to this sort of thing to have shifted since Big Ben, and I'm talking about the otherwise decent people we listen to on a regular basis - obviously there'll be idiots who don't care, too.
like, given that maybe-murderers like Ray Lewis and Marvin Harrison get off scot-free, what do you expect?
remember Peter King arguing, *after his conviction* that Darren Sharper should be in the Hall of Fame, because being a serial rapist has nothing to do with football?
what a jerk
Where sports media either don't feel it's their place to comment, or don't feel it matters. I expect it being the US would increase either or both of these.
To be fair to the media, if something has been to court and dismissed/settled/etc, or if something is yet to go to court, it's possibly very hard to comment on it without lining yourself up for being sued, or similar.
Some podcasts have mentioned these things, but more in a 'this player has been accused/suspended etc' way, before saying that they're only going to discuss it in a pure sports sense, ie what his absence would mean, what impact a return after a month without playing would have etc. But then these issues then don't get spoken within the sports bubble at all, just left to 'real news' discussion.
and apparently the civil case is scheduled for May 2017 (Winston's attempts to get it thrown out have already been rejected).
Guess people will have to start paying attention again then.
if you watch him play, and that he reminds him of a young Big Ben.
Absolutely insane, especially given they were actually pretty nuanced and progressive regarding Kap's protest.
the immediate BR comparison was quite something, wasn't it.
great QB, done wonderful things for New Orleans, but is still an arsehole
has just been a Sony hack-size goldmine of data for the "which players are total pricks and which are ok" spreadsheet, hasn't it?
White people: “Black people should protest peacefully!”
*Black person sits quietly during national anthem*
White people: “No not like that.”
America's full of immature military fetishists, simpletons in awe of real soldiers (and police officers), and given there's a vast swathe of people who still see black people as "should be slaves", what can you expect?
thankfully, it's not all that bad. i was interested in Nate Boyer's piece, linked from nfl's website today https://www.armytimes.com/articles/nate-boyer-colin-kaepernick-commentary-flag-national-anthem-protest-nfl - the tone of "at first i was pissed but now i'm stopping and actually thinking i understand a lot more" is a first step loads of folk need to take
and hastily walking it back has also been good.
previews for all 8 divisions: https://thelongsnapper.wordpress.com/category/2016-previews/
though will you revise the Vikings/Cowboys predictions in light of recent injuries?
given these posts generally get about 10 readers, i'm mulling over whether to bother pretty heavily though
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It is the best of all those games.
For the Survivor League should we go for the standard 3 lives this time? With less lives everyone is usually out by around week 6, but with 3 lives someone might just make it all the way.
Last year was actually amazing.
- Two more players (a teammate and a Seahawk in a different game) joined in with protesting during the national anthem
- San Diego crowd boo Kaepernick throughout the preseason game
- Kaepernick plays reasonably well to increase his chances of making the roster
- Police officers have threatened to boycott the home games of the NFL's San Francisco 49ers if the organisation fails to take action to halt protests by Kaepernick
- They accused the 49ers of "allowing Kaepernick to wear exposed socks with the image of a pig wearing a police hat...The 49ers organisation has taken no action to stop or prevent Mr Kaepernick from continuing to make inaccurate, incorrect and inflammatory statements"
- An online petition demanding the NFL punish Kaepernick attracted more than 53,000 signatures by Friday
just...abysmal as a group
That's a first round pick. And a fourth round pick. And Sam Bradford.
Did Bridgewater die from that knee injury? Is he never playing again? Because that's franchise QB costs they're paying for Sam fucking Bradford.