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will be on Netflix tomorrow.
Re-watching the last couple of episodes of season 2. Christ.
watched both the first two series in a week recently. It's great but so bleak. The one with Charlotte's family was so painful to watch!
with the boat and the prom and the deers.
It's a funny one as we had the whole hallucination thing in S1 so when she says that she barely knows BoJack it's really odd. And then that thing happens and stuff is said and it is simply horrific.
So many emotions felt at once
One of those things you watch, and you're like, "No, no, ~no~" and the crushing inevitability of it happening takes over and :'(
I was talking to someone about Bojack recently and he said one of his favorite things about it is how the basic concept is the joke 'A horse walks into a bar'..
like the paparazzi flying away, and Diane's adopted brother. Also the episode where they were explaining the distinction between people chickens and food chickens!
forgot about that.
last episode was some of the best TV I've ever seen, I think? whichever was the really sad episode.
I can't remember which was which tbh.
you like Eastbound & Down though, right?
It is good and so is Eastbound & Down. Why can't we all love each other?
(you know who you are)
this is really just as bad as that user I can't think of being defriended Facebook by their dadthe other day.
'yeah it was quite funny but soooo depressing, i like comedies that are just fun like brooklyn 99!*' and i want to slap them. i find wacky zany 'comedy' comedies depressing, and bojack warm and comforting, like being given a big boozy hug.
the banner every time Mr Peanutbutter has a party:
I'd noticed the banners but not the t-shirt one.
to think it'll be on netflix at midnight tonight? probably midnight US time, right?
I can't really see why it wouldn't
Like, 6 or 7am maybe. I remember being unable to sleep and up really early the day something new I wanted to see came out and it wasn't there.
It seems most things go up around 3am ET, so 8am here. Glad I didn't bother staying up.
On a similar Will Arnett tip, has anyone seen Flaked? Arnett plays an emotionally stunted but charming guy with issues from his past etc.
The main character and his mate were good, but the women were basically accessories for them and the show lets his assholery off the hook way too much. Great Heather Graham and Kirstie Alley guest spots though, and some good plot twists.
BoJack Manhorse not as good as the original. 6.5/10
but I still really enjoyed it. LOVED the Kirstie Alley episode though, reminiscent of a good Arrested Development episode.
2007 episode was fun, underwater episode was brilliant
was the poster for 'Giaffrey Lewis & the Junkyard' in the first episode :D
Wasn't into the first half so much (might appreciate more on rewatch maybe), but the later episodes were so amazingly brilliant and painful but also brilliant :-(
Todd s really really nice to have it treated not as a) a joke b) a big problem c) completely trivial. Just a fact that makes some things difficult but is also part of what makes him Todd. Seriously one of the most important moments in television for me personally.
that moment with Todd was incredibly profound, actually. I wasn't expecting it at all.
it just takes everything about Todd that might have been just a general wackiness and makes it all in that moment utterly real. personally for me, too.
Incredible, basically a music video to some fantastic ambient electronic music
Great episode 10/10 cute, funny, visually fantastic and very sad
The Underwater episode is a masterpiece, and it gets the balance between humour and utter bleakness just right.
I can't remember seeing an episode of anything else in the last few years as moving as that.
I loved the Todd conversation right at the end too. And the choice of music and the impact of it. Just lovely.
Good work, BoJack people.
Errmmmm... it's a "comedy", right?
but it's a 'comedy' about a manically depressive horse who lives handsomely off of residuals from a really lame 90s show who can't enjoy anything and wants more, achieves more and simply can't appreciate it when he does. He can only think about his legacy beyond his demise.
There are also jokes.
Give it a chance, its well worth it.
I think the thing the series really ~gets~ about the problem with feeling, like, sad and empty most of the time is the way it just strips all joy from life. Like, it's not that bad things necessarily happen to you - it's that you find it so hard to extract any joy from the good.
agree that the todd scene at the end was really nice, probably the character moment that stood out most for me especially cos most of the other characters are basically repeating the same behaviour patterns / being even more of a dick in bojack's case
took a couple of episodes to get going but was brilliant when it got there.
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0B9FXU72A )
It felt as god as mad men. I can't stop playing that song and want to find all the Nina Simone songs that are that intense, here are two of my faves
the end of episode 10, what todd said. all of episode 10, actually... it was too real.
for me, the show is a great portrayal of how difficult it is to live a stable life, mostly in the middle ground, i.e. somewhere between super fucking depressed and not high as a kite, and to still gain enjoyment and meaning from that stability and middle ground-ness. it's like bojack seeks out meaning and emotion by doing things that most people would consider absolutely insane. idk. just, for me, what todd says at the end of that episode... yeah.
obviously will rewatch - the note to kelsey in the underwater episode also hit me hard, the scene in the freezer room with princess carolyn and bojack... there are more, but yeah.
I especially love Mr Peanut Butter
I just think he is a really great character, and developed well over time. His antics and friendship with Todd is really touching; and the way he is with Diane is great as well, they do the complicated loving relationship really well
also loved the skunk episode
it's really good
most TV shows using Nina would be liking cheating for pathos, but to say a show actually earns that song is as towering as praise gets.
amazing that a programme with such a high ratio of animal jokes to everything else could feel more real than pretty much anything else I've seen on television.
there is so much to it, so many ways in which it rings true in portraying unresolvably fucked-up vulnerable humanity. hard to pick it apart, just like with actual life.
Todd though, the moment where he says he's basically asexual, especially after the scene in the other episode where he completely drops the humour and cuts to the bone in redressing BoJack... imagine any other comedy show giving their jokiest character that kind of depth.
and the end when BoJack has that realisation of horror sat next to the kid when she says she wants to be famous.
In that it's only in the script once per season.
Season one: Herb Kazzaz
Season two: The Deer lady
Season three: Todd
because those three speeches are well written and impactful anyway, and the fact that they are so sparing with other bad language as well really gives them that extra stand out.
"this is a show about the shit men get away with" takes / backlash?
I'm not sure I'm ready to process them tbh, I've seen but I haven't read
I bet it isn't anything I haven't already considered, actually. like, I can't see how a show so scathing about shit men do could be taken to town over that. I don't know.
but i couldn't get into it
so skipped to season 3 a few weeks ago and im like omg i love it
so now i'm watching season 2
i'm not sure what im doing here
you've totally fucked up the character arch
I've committed to watching it in this order
Would watch again.