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under the Chelsea-Southampton match. I normally go on there to read Consortium's match report, but it was buried about 15 pages back.
And probably held off deliberately as people tend to sift through the newer posts than the older ones.
He's pretty thorough
Can someone with the appropriate techy know-how overdub the Henry reaction vine with dramatic moments from TV soaps?
"YOU AIN'T MY MOTHER!"
"YES I AM!"
Just lost all his best players. All football is really is championship-managering all the best players into the same team. Pretty hard to play the same football without Sturridge and Suarez and all the others who've been in and out of the team since last year.
that now a team in 5th-7th gets raided by those above it if it does well, and the Champions League/money makes that pull difficult to overcome. In other words, he desired several years to build a team, but was always firefighting.
He has looked this season like a man on borrowed time, and that's why he had to go. The fans were turning against him, the football this season had no ethos.. he's chopped and changed tactics and the style of play over his time at the club and on occasions it's been justified but ultimately it seems he tied himself in knots. The money he has had and what has been brought in over the 3 years- a lot of money wasted. We may never know what percentage of blame he should take for that, and what percentage to put on the other members of the transfer committee, but still...
I don't buy the hatred some have for him. He is a good manager. He got overwhelmed by it, lost the plot a bit, and it doesn't help that he holds himself in high esteem. There's some personal habits- praising his tactical genius after wins- that he would do well to look at when he gets parachuted in to Newcastle during the winter.
The expectations are so far off the reality of the situation that it's an impossible job.
along the lines of "Klopp is thought to be interested in the Liverpool job as he is interested in 'a project' rather than taking over an established giant of European football" that's going to have a lot of angry scousers demanding a boycott.
That line gets trotted out, and they certainly have more than their share of nutters in the fanbase, but really I think the majority would accept their current position if they thought the club/manager was making progress, had a clear strategy etc. FSG have done extremely well to dodge most of the flak for their regression, mainly because Rodgers loves standing there and talking like he's smarter than everyone else so made himself an easy target. Also his lips.
As hilarious as his downfall as been, he'll still be one of the more sought after managers in the Prem, can wait for the offers to come to him for second tier clubs, while a good deal of decent foreign ones would probably consider him.
the top 4 wouldn't want him. Spurs will prefer to stick with MoPo than him. Everton-obv impossible. Southampton - Koeman's contract expires in 2017. I think they would be wary of him, and our fans hate him for some comments he made after signing Lovren, Lallana and Lambert. Silly silly man, cos we would be the best fit, and we have the 2 things that held him back at Anfield - youth deveopment and coherent transfer policy.
Swansea - Monk will have that job for the foreseeable,and Rodgers would be wary of doing worse than Monk given the glass ceiling.
Who's left? He will want something with ambition? Newcastle is the best of a bad lot. There are talented players there. The only way is up.
Can't see Rodgers staying in England though unless someone really surprising gets fired or leaves.
In the new stadium, after bilic spontaneously Combusts or something (takes an international job after the euros)
Newcastle have got six very winnable fixtures after the international break, so if they're still struggling after them at christmas, I'd expect a job might come up there. Similar situation at Villa
(Moyes is pretty much exactly in the same situation - I don't see him at Sociedad much longer)
Could see him at a Spanish club given his thinking and knowledge. Valencia job might become available soon but that might be a bit too big for him.
or are we in for more irramendi, Irrameaandi moments
the fact he can speak Spanish was, rather pathetically, his key selling point.
but it wouldn't be the worst idea for him to drop down a level (even a league) and show that it wasn't a fluke, but I imagine he thinks he's already proven that.
Chelsea, Swansea, Southampton away, Spurs away, Man City, Everton away
not that winnable
rode on the coattails of the best individual season in premier league history, bought very poorly. And if Klopp is available and willing to join them, they'd have been very silly to delay pulling the trigger
except they didn't miss all the chances.
Bit worrying that we're playing a back 4 with 3 midfielders in it.
and still getting so obviously and easily tactically outclassed by Wenger.
LVG has got to #GotToGo
was silly. Arsenal pressed high up the pitch and gave them too many attacking midfielders to chase. It was a job for at least one of Schneiderlin and Fellaini.
Outclassed indeed. But there's enough suggestion that he isn't a tactical genius throughout his time at United.
The real question is.. at what point does the penny drop that Rooney's best position is on the bench?
suggests it might be political. Can't see what else it could be.
Arsenal played exactly how everyone knew they would. Two slow CMs against that is ridiculous.
in the changing room!
He's an absolute joke at the minute
a player who's third all time scorer for his club, 1st in the international team and given 10+ years service gets injured? And man utd fans get called plastic glory hunters.....
Of the lecture theatre, reciting some normal poetry
Weird choice to go with Carrick and Pig Climber in midfield, but he's entitled to be a pretty disappointed that 2 players with so much experience didn't figure out between them that 'sprinting' forward and leaving Ozil in 20 yards of space might not be the best way to stop Arsenal.
He's obviously staying until the end of the season, and I think we'd be worse off making any change at this point. We COULD put in place plans to take on Ancelotti after that, but in reality Giggs would come in and see us sink down to midtable or worse. #LVGIN
some really naive tactics though. maybe he should get Tim in as an assistant.
Carrick and Schweinsteiger away at Arsenal with Schweinsteiger instructed to man-mark a deep-lying playmaker.
We'd have struggled with that level of pace and passing precision even with a sound gameplan and actual defenders playing in defence
He looked knackered! Brilliant stuff.
(soundtracked by Mogwai)
where he said the very worst thing Arsenal could do would be to play their own game and expect to win :)
Arsenal are never going to lose another game
Besides the obvious looney's ("this club is lacking it's scouse heart, we should bring back Gerrard and Carragher")...
.. the sense of entitlement they have is astounding. I understand their frustration with the lack of beauty or coherent football in most of their matches this season, with the transfer market, and Rodgers' babble in press conferences - I do understand. Change is I think needed. But - different from the Benitez era - you are now the 5th or 6th biggest club in the country, the big 4 are in a virtuous circle that locks them into that top 4, and all the clubs below you have started to access revenue streams similar to yours. Your academy is shit. In that context he has performed ok, with the excitement of the year you nearly won the league (where his inexperienced naivete played a part in you losing your lead). Instead there is almost universal disdain for him, with a lot of people calling the 2nd place the Suarez season as if it was all down to Suarez.
The truth is a little closer to home,I'm afraid. You're not as big as you think you are. Alexis Sanchez (and others) will choose to go to London/ a big club rather than you, you're not producing scouse talent to send into your first team. You have not been run with joined up thinking in terms of youth development, transfer policy and an overlying style of play from the first team down to the U12-s. I'd argue that Spurs and Everton have their houses in better order than you do, and then arguably Swansea and Southampton too.
all of ^this^ PLUS the fact that you have to raid Southampton of all people in order to improve your squad
No way I'm sitting through the whole thing on the off-chance.
How fickle, how fragile,
The brightest star burned out centuries ago,
it did its absolute best to gloss over the shit show that was rugby and i will be eternally grateful. ⚽️ 4 lyf
the shitshow that IS rugby
Klopp's exactly the stature of manager that I thought was beyond Liverpool these days, but I think their history and aura might always make them a more attractive prospect than other clubs at a similar size and level of ambition right now (say, Spurs). Kind of seems weird that a manager with Benitez stature went there ten years ago (it'd be like Simeone going there now), but it's probably a similar explanation.
Dunno why people are suggesting Ancelloti at all - wouldn't make the slightest bit of sense for either party
A lot of people like Honigstein etc seem to be suggesting it's actually gonna happen as well. Such a massive difference to the names you'd expect them to get - Koeman, Monk, etc.
Hope this Mourinho shiteness continues forever
Seems a pretty perfect fit really. He's not an oilball 'project' man at all so I always thought it would be Liverpool or Arsenal he'd end up at if he came to England.
think in terms of the most successful and exciting managers on the continent, few have actually come over since mourinho.
van gaal's one of the only ones that comes to mind, but that's probably more to do with his personality, and long history in the game, as opposed to the kind of football he actually brings.
Would hate to see him lose his soul in Liverpool.
Perfect fit for Liverpool. It'll be like Keegan-era Newcastle all over again.
Jordan Henderson AND James Milner?
I would hate to be the one to break the news.
it's that Jordan Henderson wears Xabi Alonso's shirt. (Also, Joe Allen is the new Mascherano.)
I wouldn't trust that "transfer committee" (which has, btw, lost the member who knows most about football) to buy the right thing in fucking Sainsbury's.
(15m for him though is frankly masochistic)
That's the scary part. JA's looked good in patches, but I can't see what he brings to the team. Not a tackler, not a passer, not a goalscorer - I'm still scarred by that miss of his in the 3-3 Goodison derby - so... what does he bring to the table? I can see he's tidy on the ball and technically good, but he's never really performed in red (unless it's Wales).
It's weird, though, because when Rodgers brought Swansea to Anfield - it finished 0-0 - Allen was part of a team who kept the ball beautifully. We struggled to put pressure on them - they just kept shifting it around so it was always out of danger. So, not like Sunday at all, eh Emre?
Be pretty happy if he goes to Liverpool (especially if Michael Zorc doesn't join him), if only to stop him ending up at Arsenal if Wenger decides to retire in the summer
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* Manchester City: 03 June 2014 - 26 November 2014 (Sacked)
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Early goal (11 secs ffs) scuppered the match plan. Reading comfortably and successfully defended their penalty area for the remainder of the match.
Boro without a way to break down and effective defence. The quality of the crosses in the box was terrible. Kike looked well below his best.
Still second to surprise leaders Brighton. Pack snapping at our heels.
at the end
Reading comfortably and successfully defended the glory of Reading for the remainder of the match
Terrible performances, except Martial, Mike maybe another. Darmian has been a bit suspect recently. Young did his best but he was exposed. Mata looked knackered.
Though Carrick, Rooney and Memphis were particularly poor. Schweinsteiger had an impossible job running around after Carzola. Surely that was for Rooney to drop back and do?
Rooney was no help relieving the pressure either. He needs dropping.
Marking a deep playmaker out of the game is the job for the number 10, he's fucking shot so we end up having to task our deep playmaker with it leaving his side of the pitch (which has a CM and left winger playing at CB and LB) totally exposed.
Would have liked someone with legs in number 10 to do a park/pirlo job on Carzola.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but maybe Valencia (dont laugh) for Mata to double up on Sanchez who's obviously the biggest threat.
Just ignored, bafflingly, again.
It has to be something about the revenue he brings in or sponsor demands written into his contract or something. There is no way three "top" managers in a row can be blind to the fact he is detrimental to the team.
And yeah, Darmian was woefully exposed and handled it dreadfully.
not that he'd have played mind
Was a mirage or something probably
and it was the right decision.
Like, genuinely don't think he'd get in the first team of most teams in the top half.
We should probably stop using pejorative terms to describe mental illness though :(
No shame in admitting it has taken its toll.
meths has got years of quality posting left in him yet.
but his club and international managers essentially making him undroppable at the start of last season regardless of form was very silly. He was so, so bad yesterday, and has been all season so far. Could do with sitting out a few games, coming on as a sub in some comfortable wins to get some form back
He's always been someone that commentators and pundits refer to as having purple patches of form where he's unplayable. That used to be true but even then it ignored the 8/9 game rows in a row where he'd be dogshit between the good runs.
The 'purple patches' have dried up completely now but everyone still seems to think he's capable of them.
5 years or so ago.
But he should still be good enough to be of use for United and England (especially given the state of both squads).
He used to struggle with fitness (always a fat bastard when he came back from holidays) but it seems like as he gets older it's harder and harder for him to stay at an acceptable level.
have you actually seen him play recently? It's not that Man U are carrying him, he has a negative impact on the team
he's been absolutely appalling this season
Aliadiere - Henry
Giovani Dos Santos - Ronaldinho
dunno if this has got legs tbf
one's an out of shape waste of space who could barely get a game in league 1.
And the other one's Jose Baxter!
I remember when we (Palace) played Dulwich Hamlet (before they became DiS faves) in a preseason a few years ago under Dougie Freedman, and had Baxter on trial.
He looked absolutely fantastic, and all fans were desperate we signed him. Instead we signed Andre Moritz and Yannick Bolasie.
How times have changed.
I think it was the game where Dougie Freedman played himself upfront, or that may have been the year before, as we always seemed to play Dulwich.
Think he was Slovakian
Am I right in thinking there is a Doncaster fan on here?
If so what do you think of Keisha Anderson? Seems to have had a great start on loan?
Harry Kane scored an own goal yesterday and it hasn't even been mentioned yet. It's all go!!
then you get to Jeffrey Schlupp in a back three
with Alexis Sanchez and Marko Arnautovic as wing-backs.
Garth Crooks Names 8 Players Who Scored Goals This Weekend Then Picks Two Defenders And A Goalkeeper. For Money.
And they played together at Spurs. Coincidence? I think not.
Talismanic players who've been at your club for ages and whom you occasionally roll out from the bench in times of bounty or strife
I say this after our own ageing Messiah turned up to help ruin agg_pass' afternoon yesterday
You're lucky Stearman stuck his leg out in the 98th minute, or it'd have been the greatest injury time in recorded memory
you scraped a 2-2 home draw against a midtable championship team. bully for you (not at all bitter)
gone by the end of october.
without preceding it with 'the dreaded'
It won't last, it can't, I wouldn't even say the title's completely impossible thanks to the rest of the division being such a basket case, but fucking hell it's enjoyable at the moment (not withstanding the fact that we still can't beat them)
checked a few times to see that was actually real. halcyon days.
I imagine them all sitting in some enormous NASA style room, wearing headsets and twiddling dials to try and drown out the static.
a ploy from Chelsea to make him think about leaving? they probably figure he doesn't take well to humiliation
He's always intimated he wants the Portugal job at some point, but that seems entirely beneath him right now. United or Bayern next season?
can see him linking back up with ronaldo there
PSG would be my guess.
Watch fucking rugby?
The fact that City are still relative good eggs so far as the top Premier League sides go only highlights how ridiculously evil and shit certain other clubs have been over the years.
Can't believe you missed the memo
Like him a lot, and in theory him and Liverpool should be a good match...but he is a nutter, and German, so don't imagine it'll be long before the press here turn on him. Wouldn't mind being wrong, but sometimes a manager or player's just at the right club at the right time, so assuming he'll be a success in England's blind optimism really. It could just as easy go tits up as be an unqualified success. Fair play if Liverpool give it a go, but if it was my money at stake the only question i'd be asking is who is the best available manager, and that's Ancelotti.
Don't rate him at all, but think another top club will take a punt, probably after a year in Spain. Certainly see it more likely he'll pop up at City post Guardiola's inevitable snubbage, or Arsenal in a year or two than Villa or Sunderland.
For a man known for getting rid of players at the right time he completely shat his pants regards binning Wazzoh.
it wouldn't be his problem in the end anyway
PARTY ON! EXCELLENT!
Shame that he spent his best years at that club, would've been adored had he played for anyone other than them or Chelsea i reckon. There's literally nothing dickish about him away from the pitch, comes across really well in interviews. Pity we create caricatures of young famous people so easily really.
in 2004, but he's been shit for England in every tournament since, so not adored, no.
You've spent the last 10 years going on about what an utter tosspot he is. Are you hoping City are going to sign him or summat?
(other than the man himself)
Pre-retirement media push?
Sir Bobby Charlton was and is.
'farewell to Fabregas' statement. amazingly classless, still hasn't been beaten for sheer classlessness. don't think it ever will be