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All been so good so far.
When the split friendship group met eachother in the street was possibility the most upsetting thing I've watched. All that pain and betrayal totally poured out. More harrowing than the suicide attempt. Just watching people's lives completely fall apart and the enormity of their situations beating down on them mercilessly.
Oh man, This whole thing has been genius.
Dead Man's Shoes is good, everything else he's done is disappointing at best.
was as good as Dead Mans Shoes (which I love)
its 90 now, you pricks
I liked it too
but what i meant was, it held me enthralled
Medders knows what he's doing.
loved the two- then three- then four-way phone call between woody, his mum, his dad, and the tv set.
obviously some dark shit brewing in shaun.
wouldn't want to make any guesses as to where it's going but i shall be tuning in next week.
oh and of all the slow-mo sequences soundtracked by fool's gold in movies and tv shows this was definitely the most bearable. reminded what a tune it is.
not reading the thread in case Royter's in here slagging it off
Why don't you just marry Sunday evenings on Channel 4?
it's pretty shite bordering total shite imo with some good performances.
This one was total bollocks like all the spinoffs, obvs
Yer man from Skins/GoTs and the other one do seem more like comic relief characters as opposed to the others.
That whole bit really annoyed me, the rest was good.
but it's been ages since I watched the other series.
Thought this episode was a bit lightweight compared to the other series. Like it when Meadows gets trippy.
Also I know he made Made of Stone and stuff but the Stone Roses fanboyism wore bloody thin very quickly, hope that's the last of it (no chance).
have a feeling it'll get better
The whole cast spent a lot of their days hanging out at the cafe/bar/club I worked at in Sheffield during filming. I didn't pester them cos I figured they got enough of that, but one time the chap who plays Woody came up to the bar and asked me who made the playlists. He asked me what the songs playing were twice (it was 'Let's Get Out Of Here' by Les Savy Fav and 'The Suburbs' by Arcade Fire) and then asked if I'd make him a mix CD. I promised I would, then forgot.
...indicating that THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND MATTERS A LOT AND YOU SHOULD BE FEELING STUFF?
But that's not necessarily a terrible thing. The last series did it really well at points.
Did get a bit boring this last episode though.
Joe Gilgun's improv style acting makes me cringe a bit
Can tell something awful is going to happen though. I'm cringing already.
Like all the others have been. Like most of Meadow's stuff is.
Harvey's a good character isn't he.
Has Gadget always been this annoying and unfunny? Between him and this Flip and Higgy double act, it's starting to feel a bit like an episode of Skins.
The scenes with Kelly in the caravan, was that hinting that she'd been abused by her dad as well as Lol? Some kind of repressed memory?
Couldn't quite suss the Kelly thing. Just that she's in a really bad self-destructive place right now.
That was a grim, grim watch. Excellent tv but still. Having to watch family guy before bed now.
This Is Englands for the 90s one to make sense?
Not just for the progression of the characters but you'd be missing some pretty pivotal twists. Plus the other series are simply better (so far) imo.
A lot of this series so far has relied on you knowing the characters to have any impact.
thanks! better get watching - just checked and they are all on 4OD so that's easy enough..
I'd say that's required viewing first if you haven't seen that.
may even have it on DVD...
good the various series' were and indeed the first film was. They're a bunch of nice and (occasion) nasty characters that I and I guess we've grown up with over the last decade.
Great acting, well shot. A horrible watch mind you.
which if true is incredible
although i did break the tension and laugh when woody accidentally pulled down the curtains :D
Found that season underwhelming in all but taking the film + '86 - '90 together it's an utterly tremendous piece of work.
totally obvious thing to do. Sean and his mum...
not as good as the film or previous series' where the bar was raised so high. Shame that's the end.
The more I think about this ending the worse it is.
They built up Shaun's incoming implosion which never happened, he magically got happy again and an unreasonably attractive girlfriend.
Don't feel like Harvey/Gadget/Kelly had their storylines tied up respectively. And Milky was made to go through with a revenge no-one wanted, then kept it from everyone? Shite.
The ending of '88 was far more complete and satisfying tbh.
But really well shot, held back the tears during several scenes. Problem with this type of show is you always fear the worst will happen out of nowhere - even on a "heartwarming" scene with Shaun and his mum.
The cafe scene with Milky and Combo was phenomenal acting.
So we will be left on a permanent Sopranos-esque cliffhanger with Combo?
The film and the three mini series as a whole is really outstanding. It peaked at '88 for me.
Definitely felt like they were building up to something for Shaun that in the end turned out to be nothing. Not really sure how to feel about the Combo and Milky situation.
As much as '90 was the weakest, it was never run into the ground or anything. Think a re-watch of the whole lot is in order. Sad that it's over.
Which isn't a criticism or owt. If I was Shane Meadows I doubt I'd want to permanently say goodbye to these characters either. Definitely set up for another crack, although probably in about 5 years time. Something about the happy ending felt a bit rushed, although it was all very touching all the same.
Combo is definitely, definitely not dead. I'll bet the house on it. They just beat him to within an inch of his life and told him to never set foot in whatever fictional midlands/South Yorkshire town it's set in again.
But, if it is the end then I guess Combo's ending is left up to you to decide what happened to him. I'm pretty convinced he was killed. Don't think Milky would have been struggling so much if he'd just been given a beating and told never to come back.
I've not watched the film or any of the various TV series, but I like the idea of having the whole lot to discover- but not if it's as bleak as I am starting to imagine it is.
But the ups are more than worth the downs, such is life.
But the previous instalment (This is England '88) is probably one of the most beautiful and uplifting pieces of television I've ever seen.
But then again bleak entertainment media is my favourite entertainment media, so you're best off seeking the opinion of someone of a jollier disposition to see if they enjoyed it.
I've got no idea how the lad who plays him didn't win every award under the sun for that series. Just... astonishing acting.
Stroke of genius that.
Thought the finale was ok - The best part being the scene with Combo & Milky, and of course the nice ending. I would like to imagine its far from over, although that could be just wishful thinking.
I hope to see a great deal of the cast in more stuff in future!
How come milky doesn't have any problem with banjo?
i reckon they'll do another miniseries set in 95 at the birth of britpop, "cool britannia" etc