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Or a job which is hard work and only 'okay' for £45k at somewhere unknown.
earn more than £35k?
get back to me on monday, though
think Epimer might be in the same boat?
no fidel for a little while - wooo!
(I may also have a new job soon which puts me above the £35k)
you'll just have to find a way to turn HYG into much more of a prick
(glad to hear the job news, get the impression you've not been too in love with the current one?)
That kind of changed my opinion on it after a while off.
I got the job anywhoo. YES!
But thats because im like ancient. They give you more money when you're old for some reason.
Why has no-one told me this?
No senior management experience
No strategic planning background
But I fucking hate it. Not worth it.
cushy as hell too
Fuck London and London wages.
if "hard work" doesn't go as far as it being constantly stressful, or needing to work unpaid overtime, or an office full of dickheads - and if "comfortable" just means "too much time to dick around on DiS" - I'd go the latter.
Lets say the higher paid job gives you no down time during the day though.
if it's not actively awful I'll go 45 then. probably a result of working a very quiet job for two years now.
I guess it depends what you mean by hard work. If it's demanding but the people are supportive then I wouldn't mind. If it's constant firefighting / dealing with shitehawk subordinates then I wouldn't bother.
Could re-word it to say would you take £10K/25% more salary.
although not for that much, debate between taking a better paid/easier commute similar role to the one I do now at a respectable establishment but probably really dry work in an area I'm less interested in
Less paid but more interesting to me with either higher responsibility and/or a chance to learn some new skills (and maybe a temporary move)
Would working at the respected company open up more opportunities career-wise in the future?
So part of the dilemma is whether you cash that in now for more money.
ooooh I'm awful #satire
vs more at somewhere dodge?
To be honest I don't really give a shit how well known the place is. The important things are the benefits:
- how much holiday you get
- how much they expect you to work late and want to take your free time
- how nice the office is
- office location
These things are more important than money, certainly once you're talking the 35K level which is sufficient to pay for living in London.
I earn a decent wedge and I don't necessarily work any harder or do any more hours than I did when I was on £35k or £45k.
But I have more things where the buck stops with me which creates a kind of extra low level of stress. And I have quite a few people to manage, which makes work more complicated and again, sometimes adds to my stress levels. I am much more likely to wake up at 5am thinking about how to solve problem.
But I enjoy getting to make decisions and the work is meaningful and stimulating I don't think I'd trade it in for less money. In my experience the £35-40k mark was where I was doing the most graft for the least reward.
Its also charity vs corporate.
If I had to choose between only those two options.
I have the first but with the second salary (almost)
my job is interesting, not very stressful, looks good on my CV... I'm on about 30k euros just now and still have a good few hundred left at the end of the month. that's supporting me, my partner and the cat, living in a nice apartment in a cool area, going out drinking, eating nice food, going on daytrips. honestly dont know why people need to be rich. it's so pointless.
that said, i'll probably move to london and become obsessed with house prices
Having a safety net for unemployment/illness/injury?
But it's woefully inadequate for a comfortable standard of living.
sounds like you have it down.
pay equivalent of £490 pm for a very decent 1 bedroom apartment.
I'd really recommend living in Brussels. Lots of jobs in public affairs, public policy, that kind of thing. You don't need to speak any languages, it's really easy to meet people, lots of interesting stuff to do, hundreds of BD/comic shops, really easy to get to other neighbouring countries (bought a bus ticket to go to a festival in utrecht for £1 the other day), looooooooads of good beer and nice places to drink beer, transport is pretty cheap (annual cost for unlimited travel is about £150 not that I've paid that..been here 8 months and never encountered ticket inspectors...). some stuff is super expensive though and all the shops close at 8pm.
which meant initially taking a pay cut some years ago, but now earning more than i was when i was miserable and have a cushy job
real personal statements.
boring type, and lots of it. MORE BULLET POINTS
is flexi-time on no more than 35 hours a week between 8am and 6pm, with decent other work-life arrangements, and has a relatively reasonable pension.
half hour commute on tube :(
If, under stress, you spend extra money every day on say, lunch, or buying tat on the way home, that will cut into the salary increase.
If, under stress, you need/deserve more compensation in the way of better,more frequent and expensive holidays, that will cut into your salary increase.
If, under stress, your weekends or days off become more intense, and involve larger amounts of alcohol or other excesses, that will cut into your salary increase.
If, under stress, you start over analysing and comparing yourself to others, and this results in spending more money on 'show'- objects or appearances of being more wealthy or impressive- which nobody cares about, but is an anxiety response purely from yourself... This will cut onto your salary increase.
If you don't experience stress, or can handle or control it, and control your finances and behaviour outside of work pretty well, accepting the more difficult job for more money is an option. If you don't handle stress well, there's a decent chance you will spend the extra money on emotionally compensating for the job.
The other option is accepting the higher paid job on a temporary basis, until it has taken enough of a toll on you, and then moving on.
mean more stress necessarily. Have found it more stressful and depressing in shit jobs where I feel less valued, less interested and lower self-efficacy etc than when I have earned more money and had more responsibility tbh
That sounds like your own self-motivation in a responsible role is able to negate or null any stress associated with that increase in responsibility. Pretty good camp to be in, Son :D
Just came across this and it reminded me of this thread.
No idea if it'll help you decide.
any salary at or above 30000 would make any job bearable, be it white collar bean counter or professional baby stabber. i'm nowhere near 30000 and im fucking miserable.
my rent alone immediately devours just over a third of my wage. food, bills, and travel expenses on top of that mean the money i can actually call 'mine' is a joke considering i'm pulling 40 hours a week plus late nights and weekends.
where else could you eat brioche burgers and pretend to go to the barbican??