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It was self-defence
A man in Syria directs attacks in Europe? That's a weird way to do things.
Didn't ask Parliament (in fact going directly against the last Parliament vote on y'know not bombing Syria), no due process, complete suspension of international law due to "intelligence".
He's not Blair levels yet though.
established that extra-judicial killings are totally fine as long as you're sure they were baddies anyway.
When you're using robots to kill people outside the conventions of international law, idk.
You kindof feel with Cameron that he has more of a withering contempt for about 60% of the UK.
withering contempt for them
it's just complete indifference, they're people who are Not Like Me and the mind can mostly block out their existence
there's nothing great or fun about David Cameron
in the unusually or comparatively large in size or dimensions sense of the word.
then imagine if it worked
amazed theres not been anything on the last few days, is a mod moving them or has there been some silent pact not to talk at all 'til after the labour leadership's over?
Get rid of ISIS *and* Assad. Will definitely work this time. Refugees don't worry, you will be able to return home soon ^__^
Wonder if British intervention will be as successful as it always is.
what could ever go wrong?
heard of Hitler?
but I think it has to be accepted that he needs to be negotiated with to end the war.
Otherwise I reckon the war could get even nastier, if any variation/combination of the FSA/JN/ISIS seriously threaten Damascus or the Alawite heartland.
when she suggested that maybe selling arms is somehow linked to wars and refugees etc.
"if she thinks that the reason why so many people are leaving, fleeing Syria has got something to do with the arms trade – the fact is that it’s because Assad is butchering his own people, it’s because we have an Islamist extremist terrorist organisation running a large part of two countries Iraq and Syria. Those are the problems we have to confront rather than pretending it’s about something else."
the crazy people we sold the guns to kill people.
and many others would sell weapons if we don't.
Not saying that us selling Arms is a good thing, but it is disingenious to pretend that Britain selling Arms has caused the Syrian Civil War/Refugee crisis
Other countries sell weapons so what harm will it do if we export loads of them too?
Just saying that it is wrong to pretend that we're solely or even largely culpable for this happening.
Last time I checked the Syrian regime and ISIS weren't particularly big on buying arms from the west.
I think ISIS just got given them
Captured more accurately.
For destabilising the region, radicalising large swathes of the population, and even historically supporting Assad and his dad.
Sykes-Picot arbitraily drew the lines of the modern ME which is arguably the beginning of a lot of the problems.
In a more narrow sense, the war is clearly now a proxy war between Russia/Iran and Saudi Arabia/Qatar etc.
Without them propping up each side, the war would likely be over now for better or worse.
And use diplomacy to pressurise others to do the same, thus preventing what's essentially a cold war over minerals escalating and turning the middle east into a gruesome soup of failed states.
in the powers of diplomacy than I do.
Russia definitely isn't going to stop Arms sales and I highly doubt Britain could exert enough pressure on SA/Qatar to cease their support either.
And we're not going to find out while we're normalising selling weapons to the middle east.
IS normalised though.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE amongst others have hugely expanded their Defence Budgets. Whilst I appreciate your point that it is perhaps not a good thing to sell them weapons, they will buy weapons regardless
it didn't cause it. But by selling them we're still culpable - hand waving and saying, "everyone else is doing it" doesn't make us innocent.
Selling arms doesn't 'cause' wars per se, but it has a massive effect on their scale and impact.
but it's a close run thing for the last Champions League place: