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What conspiracy theories do you believe are true?
I truly believe Princess Diana was murdered.
Jury is out about a lot of others. You?
Sorry - pop in for first time in ages and start a thread - whatacunt.
I truly believe Princess Diana was murdered.
Jury is out about a lot of others. You?
Sorry - pop in for first time in ages and start a thread - whatacunt.
Classic Moker, straight off the bat.
The financial crises, obviously.
Potential for Full Moker in this thread:
Very high.
I remember a few years back
I was talking about some tinfoil hat gubbins with my girlfriend and I actually used the phrase `full Moker`. She asked `what does that mean??` and I panicked and was just like `ah it's just a bit of internet slang - dunno where it comes from`. And... she bought it.
Close fucking call.
:)
Yeah, that's exactly what she'd want you to think
:D
that one where basically all previous politicians of note
were megapaedos
(welcome back!!!!)
I truly believe that 9/11
was caused by terrorists, not by the US Government.
outrageous
9/11 has so many high level people
Speaking out about it that I find it hard to buy the whole story.
Pilots, professors, er, other people. I dunno man. Why would they risk such mockery? There's a lot of stuff that makes no sense. I'm not saying it's a fu conspiracy just openly pointing out weird things. Like there's not ONE image of the plane hitting the pentagon. That's weird.
What was the motive for Bush doing an inside job dude?
Exsctly
Hence my doubt. But I guess you could say that bush wasn't involved in it. It was higher up than that. Something like that. All that Building 7 stuff is weird. I'm not saying it is an inside job, and it's easy to pour doubt on everything as there's so many factors and incidents, but it is weird. It's the experts speaking out that is the most poignant.
Rallying a nation behind a war and middle eastern hate maybe?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
oh geeeeeeze
Yeah!
I mean if you're gonna do that might as well take the most risky and convoluted route possible huh.
~~~ that's what they want you to think ~~~
wouldn't it be weirder
if there was a perfectly framed photo of everything that ever happened ever?
Wasn't there CCTV footage of the Pentagon?
Plus, taking a camera anywhere near the Pentagon is probably frowned upon.
Not really
The one about there being a positive correlation between
Having a lower level of education and a propensity to believe in conspiracy theories.
I truly believe that Diana really did
die in a nasty accident.
The idea that it was some sort of Establishment plot is so far fetched that it can't be true. If there were people that wanted to 'off' her (which in itself seems difficult to believe) I can't believe that they would choose to do it by setting up a high speed chase through Paris and shining a bright light in her driver's eyes.
WHAT ABOUT THE WHITE FIAT?
Checkmate.
am i right in thinking
that all D-Spizzle did to the royals was annoy them quite a lot? so if it were true would you not expect to see assassinations all over the shop, given how low it would set the bar?
i only really bring this up bc it would be pretty cool imo
Never played Crusader Kings II?
This re: Diana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4meFC1ee7Q
Yeah I always think of thaf
And it is funny but it's easy for rebuttal. And who doesn't like a good rebutting?
Our lizard masters?
Also
Moker! bd
A guy who sort of works here
has been coming out with some crackers recently. White people came from black people via a eugenics program after a black prince was disgusted at something his race did. They originally came from space, then traveled up the coast of Africa, some dissenters jumped ship, by the time they got to Europe, they were all white and some of them are among us and are actual lizard people. This is the one I believe obviously.
Genuinely believe that Apple
do things to your phone via updates or built in software to cause it to get slower/more defective/less reliable once you're out of warranty/roughly when you're eligible for an upgrade (by signing a new plan)
my samsung started locking up every day at about the same time a few days after i was due to upgrade.
Spotify has been glitchy since apple music
it's all those Rothschilds running everything
Also I believe
that you're getting that tour of the fucking converse show whether you've clicked or hovered or not
honestly
the Kennedy assassination and the CIA/FBI having something to do with it.
or
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/807/738/3fd.jpg
Ruby killing Oswald before his trial
is def dodge.
*shoe
Pretty vanilla, but there's no way Lee Harvey Oswald was solely responsible
for the JFK assassination, is there?
Yeah I think JFK's the only one of these things
I'm close to believing.
That and FDR deliberately provoking the Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbour, perhaps.
I used to think that
then I found out that most of the "facts" presented in the film JFK are pure fiction
There was a good debunking BBC doc about it a few years back - its probably on YouTube. Basically 3D animated reconstructions showing it was possible for a loan shooter to do it from that location.
I hope they allowed him to make repayments in reasonable instalments
Yeah, the JFK film magic bulley stuff is pretty hokey, but even assuming Oswald was the lone shooter, the idea that he was a lone crackpot acting with no influence from a broader conspiracy (of any description) is just way too implausible for me.
oops
yeah, I'm sure there was stuff we don't know about - he did go to russia, no doubt people in the CIA might have known what he was up to, and some may have chosen to not stop him. But I find organised conspiracies impossible to believe just because people are terrible at organising things like that and keeping them secret
There is that, although a lot of the suspicious CIA guys and others implicated
died very soon afterwards, which is very moker indeed.
To me, one of the more believable "conspiracy theories" about JFK is simply that the fatal bullet was one accidentally shot by his main bodyguard as he reacted to the original shots.
That sort of banal accident is remarkably plausible and I can also see how and why it would have been covered up.
Why?
Just think the combination of Oswald having so many connections
to groups of people (pro-Castro, anti-Castro, FBI, CIA, the Russian govt) who might have had motivations in wanting JFK dead, plus the clumsiness of so many other things he did, make it unlikely he dreamt the idea and the plan up all on his own.
It was the cigarette smoking man
Diana was murdered
so that the future king of england didn't have a Muslim half brother
This is like Game of Thrones
It's no game Nick
It's no game.
The recent Tube strikes were deliberately provoked by Boris
to stir up anti-union sentiment, so the Tories could pass anti-union legislation and thus erode the base/funding of the Labour party.
Tories investing their current political capital to secure a permanent majority. Ironic, because investing in the future isn't generally how they govern.
Also, David Cameron is a lizardman.
The people drowning in the canals of manchester is the work of a serial killer
9/11 was an inside job
Moon landings were faked
Aliens are amongst us
all of these are reasonable
and with the exception of the manc one which i don't have an opinion on, are ones I believe.
The moon landings being faked
I'd believe - as there's so much evidence or at least very reasonable speculation to point in the direction it was faked
Hideous radiation
Fake / shitty photos
Sped up footage
Armstrong et al refusing interviews and basicay turning into alcoholics
Not going
Back there since the 70s
All the location / beacon data sent from Apollo being mysteriously lost. All of it!
The space race.
But what makes me think it is real is that too many very clever, analytical scientists look at the data, the rocks collected, the technology used over decades for it not to be real.
Which makes me wonder if other things that seem so obviously fake are actually real.
If the USA did fake the moon landings, wouldn't the USSR have suspected as such and tried to prove they faked it? Would have been a massive propaganda boost at the time. The fact I haven't heard or seen anything from USSR/Russia about the moon landing being faked I am inclined to believe it happened.
Anyone who truly thinks the Moon landings were faked
is a complete and utter moron.
Just looked up the Manchester canal "Pusher".
Interesting - 61 deaths in 6 years. How does that stack up to other areas with similar waterways?
it's an area
which at night is hoaching with people who are drinking and taking drugs to excess. It also has a canal running through it- accidents are going to happen. This is one I just don't believe.
Bath has a similar issue
With students getting fucked up and falling in and drowning. Every time it happens there are rumours of some lurking tramp who shoves them in. Utter nonsense.
Which bath?
It does look mighty suspicious
if it's the bath in that tramp's en suite.
I know quite a lot have died in Bath
the city, not in a bathtub. Pissed students, people taking shortcuts home, that kind of thing. You read about the same in Bristol too. That is just where there is one harbour or river, Manchester is full of canals.
A guy I went to college with, drowned in Bristol harbour...it happens
Drunk people and water are a poor mix.
60+ deaths in a 6 year period seems abnormally high though.
Oddly topical as well
http://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/2015/08/are-manchester-canal-deaths-the-work-of-a-serial-killer-channel-4-commissions-documentary-to-investigate/
Urgh
Definitely did not mean to this this.
Size DOES matter.
i think the main thing is i don't care
suppose governments are involved in shady conspiracies involving individuals
so?
it's not like it's making human society go to shit any faster than it already is, is it? your soul's getting pounded into capitalist oblivion whether Princess Diana was murdered or not
there's loads
my mind is gone blank but there's loads.
Mind wipe by the reptilian overlords
More like.
it's generally ones you don't hear about as much
less outlandish, more plausible, but still extremely sinister and disturbing. actually does Lockerbie count? the guy who got blamed for that was blatantly innocent. not sure if that counts as a 'conspiracy' as such but it's definitely along those lines
The Gorverment made your mind go blank?
back in the mid-90s there was a Captain Birdseye advert
where he was smashing around on a skidoo. I saw that very same advert on an Italian channel and he was called CAPTAIN FINDUS. Since that day nothing would surprise me.
Royal Family= Lizard people
Cameron= Lizard Person
But Angela Merkel is one of the illuminati
I believe that moker got too close to the truth
and had his mind wiped by the illuminati
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4429281
Fucking hell!
I'm literally a two dimensional cunt. That's near identical. It's finally happened. I've got nothing else to say. Just a spouting office twat who thinks he's different to be rest of the work drones because he saw David Icke at Wembley.
Fuck me. Zero days since the last existential crisis.
Did you go see david icke?
:D
10 hours man
10 friggin' hours
Don't worry, it was at zero already.
serious
deffo reckon them west germans executed the baader meinhof gang
Actually, think stuff this is pretty plasible too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cosmonauts
The Fortean Times article on this is behind the paywall now, but it's a really interesting and rather eerie read.
I imagine that's completely true
And I can see why they would do it, but it is cruel to deny the cosmonauts their own deaths, especially knowing that if they had been US astronauts they'd have gone down as heroes
and this guy, who might have been a Lost Cosmonaut
is in the rugby union hall of fame...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Ilyushin
That the Royal Mail deliberately delayed the adoption of self-adhesive stamps
while the government collected everyone's DNA on the licky stamps.
David Cameron is really a Pringles Business Development rep
On yer bike!
one of my favourites
is the michael jordan one gambling on games and his "retirement" was because the head of nba asked him too disappear for a little bit because he found out about the illegal betting on games (hence the weird transition to baseball at the height of his career) to cool down the heat surrounding him with the mob. also think the death of his father in the car-jacking wasn't as random as thought - gambling mob related. a lot of people have talked about jordans notorious gambling issues and possible money owed to the mob. mob. mob mob mob. the mob are one big entity, y'see
also on Jordan
the "flu game" where he played despite being really sick: quite a few people say that he was actually just really hungover. Jalen Rose claimed this recently actually.
Both true.
Also the NBA used to fix the finals by paying off refs and rig the draft lottery in favour of big market teams like the Lakers.
He started playing baseball
when he was pushing 40, so not really the height of his career.
He was 30 actually:
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/74071860/chicago-bulls-michael-jordan-20th-anniversary-retirement-baseball-white-sox
Won 3 NBA titles before and 3 after, so peak of his career is pretty fair.
Surprised by this.
Was sure that this had happened after he left the Bulls.
What's that? "I'm sorry Antelope that I ever doubted you, I feel extremely foolish
and this conspiracy theory totally holds now, right on dude. hnag ten."
it's okay fullerov don't worry about it we're all are dismissive bores from time to time. i was once a non-believer like you.
that Madeleine McCann, Richie Edwards, Glenn Miller, Lord Luccan and Shergar
are all alive and well and living on an island together in the South Pacific
My dad's convinced
They stopped producing the particular kind of black North Face anorak he owns because they are *too* good.
It is a pretty good anorak tbf.
pretty good conspiracy theory as well tbf.
This has done me.
I've got one of them
is your dad in Autechre?
can't tell you how much this made me laugh
:')
Gordon Ramsey and Ross Kemp were bumming
CIA allowed the Crack epidemic to happen.
and aliens obviously
all the stuff about cia being an all knowing all powerful evil entity
Must be massively overstated bollocks. If they were pulling the strings on everything in the world all of the time then there'd just be no way they could keep track of it all. You'd have to have someone in charge who knew everything and it'd just be too much for him to understand
No doubt.
To some extent they probably like the perception of them as some omnipotent organisation as it might make some people think twice about doing stuff, that the CIA would actually have no idea about.
Truly believe the Crack thing though, there's a pretty good book called Blowback about it and how the proceeds were used to fund the Contras in Nicuragua.
Can't believe
I spelt Nicaragua incorrectly :(
As mentioned in the other thread, the CIA/Republicans have been responsible
for some awful stuff, which was initially put down as a conspiracy theory, but actually turned out to be true:
- the Reagan campaign doing a deal with the Iranian hostage takers so that the hostages didn't get released until after the 1980 election.
- Nixon deliberately scuppering the Vietnam peace talks ahead of the 1968 election.
- the faking of evidence by the US prior to the Bay Of Pigs invasion, the Vietnam war, Korean War, first Gulf War and Iraq invasion.
- the various coups that were supported to overthrow democratically elected governments in central and southern America.
- CIA selling heroin to fund insurgency forces in SE Asia and S America.
And less significantly but perhaps most bizarrely of all:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
There's a great book called Cold War
And it's basically. About America being shady as fuck funding revolutions in democratic nations that were left of centre / socialist and could be sympathisers for the USSR. Other stuff I can't full remember also.
Don't buy into the
'Testing supermarket security by killing people' theory, but this is all very weird:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabant_killers
wow what an awful country
Theo is still a mod
*spod
sean makes a huge amount of money from this site
but hits went up when things started to go wrong. The entire indie ethos of the userbase actually responded more positively to degredation and inefficiency, it was as though they were a bunch of hipsters. They even clicked on the ads more.
Rather than tell anyone his findings, sean actually hired someone to break the boards MORE and even had the audacity to start the patron thing to keep the facade up.
In the meantime, he is literally sitting on a lilo in his own 50m swimming pool in his penthouse pad in zone 1 London, drinking pints of berocca with Emily Haines.
http://i.imgur.com/nPRpnSa.png
Van Der Lubbe and the burning of the Reichstag
Alan_Shearer isn't really Alan Shearer
that Jose Mourinho dumped on Eva Caneiro because
he tried it on with her and she told him to fuck off
I believe that there is agreed preferential treatment
given to the big 4 clubs and Man City in the premier league in exchange for money towards officials and FA droogs and it is ruining the beautiful oilball game
Still sore about that Benteke goal?
this isn't really moker
it's someone pretending to be him
You're a dead man
This one's good
2001: A Space Odyssey was propaganda designed to spread the idea that man's future lies in the stars: http://kubrickon.com/maze/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17
I reject this one entirely - not merely because such a notion is completely inconsistent with the film's overall "DON'T TRUST TECHNOLOGY" themes, but also because the entire theory seems to be based on the notion that "I'M RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG."
See here: https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2014/11/25/shadow-of-the-groundhog-15-the-kubrick-challenge/
"Everyone likes Kubrick except me, so everyone must have been hypnotised."
Yeah, makes sense.
Basically none
they are fascinating though, as once people have decided and delve into it - nothing can stop them. Each point gets bogged down in trivial details, or there is always something else they can pick at. It goes full conspiracy when the experts showing the conspiracy is utter tripe are somehow all in on it as well.
how can you say none
marckee's listed a bunch upthread that have been proven true
Not a conspiracy, but a viewpoint
Christianity is a big metaphor for astrology. Once you read all of the information on it you'll see its obvious.
Nah
Yeah
Flat Earth + The Beatles weren't real
wake up, sheeple.
Reckon Jill Dando did find out too much about the Yewtree crowd, got removed.
meths is Smee
Regarding 'the pusher'
I fell into the canal near Stretford about 8 years ago, walking from sale to town and I fell in. I just sort of walked in really. It was fricking freezing.
I ended up getting out and throwing up and then I was dead confused about where I was. Turned out I'd swam to the other side. ANYWAY as I was splodging around, a police van turned up and they drove me home! I had to sit in the cage bit though cause I was all wet and the policeman said I stank :( When I got home my mobile, which had been in my pocket still worked!!!
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that since then I keep on pushing drunk lads into the canal and killing them.
bump for today
love to hear your thoughts on this
That Portland Comms stuff has gone quiet eh.
one of my m8s works for Portland
says its all true. all of it.
Think
Ffs
Think its fairly demonstrably true that there is an informal alliance between corporate interests and political leaders to actively engineer society to encourage mindless consumerism and apathy. The illuminati theory is just an exaggerated version of this. Its fairly obvious that economics are used as a weapon by governments against their own people. The oil price hike which effectively killed the 60s counterculture is a good example. As is the recent credit crunch and recession. Then media with the tacit approval of politicians deliberately swamp us with info overload so truth and fiction become interchangeable. That there wasnt a revolution in response to iraq or the credit crunch is I feel because the objective facts were rewritten in such a way as to make even stalin proud. Hence why universal income will never be introduced - there would simply be too many people with the time and ability to investigate and expose our elites if they werent stuck working 70 hour weeks and struggling to pay their way.
And jfk was a conspiracy too.