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Probably should have seen that coming.
Wenger: 'Nervous Arsenal will respond to accident'
Sort of makes it sounds a bit like Arsenal shat themselves in public.
if the other team is trying to win.
Admittedly we made life a bit easy for him thanks to the complete lack of urgency or attacking intent our midfield showed, but he was excellent. He's also fucking massive, bet Allardyce was gutted he got the chop before he had the chance to bung him up front with Carlton.
Clearly has a lot of talent and is already a phyical presence, but his composure is the most impressive thing. Worth bearing in mind that he'd never even played a game in midfield until last month, he's actually a centre-back.
There are no guarantees at all with someone his age, but if he keeps his head he's got a chance of being a very good player indeed.
as a 15-year-old but that was apparently because Man Utd and Arsenal were looking to pinch him before he could sign his first pro deal. Clearly the case being made was "stay with us as, you'll have more first-team opportunities" but I don't think anyone expected it would be this soon.
I was at the game and noticed a few occasions when he was screaming and pointing at other players to get back into position, so he's obviously pretty confident too.
made for chilling reading.
he'd be a grade a chump to stay now, only to get benched as soon as Neymar returns. Assume it'll just push the transfer back until deadline day.
not to be outdone by Jack Wilshere, Phil Jones has contracted thrombosis
And we're more boring than ever!!!
Arsenal and Chelsea more than made up for dull Liverpool was. Leeds match was decent too, if disappointing.
Very early signs, but everyone's been hyping up Wijnaldum, Payet, Ayew, Cabaye, etc and they've all lived up to it on first viewing - and contributed to taking unexpected points from the title challengers.
Feels a bit hollow that the development of the league is totally down to these big coup style signings, but it should make it healthier in a sense that it (hopefully will be) more competitive (and exciting). Especially as you still wouldn't expect anyone to make Neymar/Bale/Ronaldo/Suarez-level signings that would probably be necessary to be totally dominant.
If this is the way it's gonna go further down the table, I'd expect even fewer english players to develop properly and their transfer fees even more inflated.
(*chelsea to hit 100 points now i've said that)
No-one in the Top Four can buy a best-in-the-world-type player, but the clubs lower down the leagues now have the financial clout to hoover up all the talent a tier or two below them. Like last season, probably going to make for lots of competitive games (early on especially) and a league won by squad depth as much as a special first XI. Money can have some weird consequences.
Take that, Kingsley.
It was pretty awful
are there any new features this season?
next to the goals, that look like they're standing up, but are just a flat shape on teh ground?
(I didn't see it)
kept thinking a dog was on the pitch
i hate them so much
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remember the first time you saw a ball roll across one or a goalie walk over one?
disappointing to see Giroud and Tomkins(?) just waved straight back onto the pitch after they'd smacked heads and been laid out on the pitch for a couple of minutes. Don't know how it looked on TV, but really not sure the physios can have adequately checked them for concussion in the time it took to help them up and walk over to the touchline. Wasn't there supposed to be some new rules around this coming in?
was clearly putting Giroud in the recovery position before the physio came on, I was surprised he continued.
Even more surprised to see Sanchez playing though tbh.
Didn't look like either player got more than a very cursory check.
Don't know why Premier League games don't have an independent assessor among the officials at every game. Would be very easy to just have him stationed with the 4th official and say that any head injury has to be checked by him before the player can come back on.
So you can replace a player while they are assessed for concussion which is a pretty good idea I think
great composure and that, but he didn't really do anything. probably gonna do a Jack Rodwell (who would've plateaud early without his injuries imho onion).
but doesn't necessarily lead to development as a top talent 5 years down the line. Also it can flatter to deceive - Phil Jones looked more 'composed' at 18 years old than he does now.
Oxford looked good and there's every chance he might make the cut but I don't generally buy the hype when youngest player records are broken. Not many superstars in this bunch:
Think Phil Jones looked more composed at 18 months old than he does now to be honest.
"Will Reece Oxford play for England?"
and these people have the same democratic power as you or i. what civilised society?
so I take your point.
It's not really a position that's going to stand out too much but he was effective and carried out his role well. For his prem debut away against a team like Arsenal I think that's pretty good.
Chelsea were poor, Arsenal were awful, hopefully city drop points tonight too.
But I thought they looked good on MOTD.
Shit themselves a bit once it got to 2-2 and they had the extra man, but well worth a point. Ayew's little drag back for his goal was well sexy.
So, Saturday. Atmosphere was electric at Carrow Road, was beautiful day too.
Thought we moved the ball well early on but Grabban pretty much proved he's not our starting forward when he missed that sitter, then we go at let Zaha (who was really great all game) hang out at the back post unchallenged for a sloppy goal. The corner was a bit annoying to concede too as no one picked up on the late run.
But then after that we fought real hard to get back into the game. Redmond and Jerome made such a difference with the former being rewarded with a decent strike. Of course, the latter also should have been, but having that goal disallowed pretty much killed the game for us not going to 2-2. which is the biggest challenge of all this season is having the mental strength to get on with it because things will go against us this year.
Palace weren't necessarily 2 goals better than us, but one could tell they are an experienced Premier League side now, and that was the difference.
I wish I hadn't been such a tightwad, and gone. If the friend I go to away games with, wasn't on holiday I probably would have.
Yeah that goal should have stood, his foot was close to Wards head, but he was the other side of him. But what the hell has happened to CamJam? When he was with us, whilst he tried, he couldn't score for toffee.
We seem to have a very strong squad now, I've never seen our bench so strong.
Bolasie, Jedinak, Bamford, Gayle, Wickham and Kelly all benched and Ledley, Sako and Hangeland not even making it.
From what I saw Zaha looked outstanding, back to what he was like before he left for Manchester United, he looked good at the end of last season, we seem to have the old Wilf back, hopefully this will be his year.
Cabaye looked classy, but obviously isn't fully fit yet.
I'm not sure about playing McCarthy in goal as in all honesty, he should have saved your goal and looked a bit shaky. Speroni is injured, so hopefully he'll be back soon, but I would have started with Hennessey.
We are at home to Arsenal next week, which will be interesting. I fancy our chances, but Arsenal may up their game a bit after the weekend.
instantly made a difference when he came off the bench which we weren't getting from Grabban.
But yeah you're right about having a deep bench now, think you guys will certainly give Arsenal a game!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33843510 SHOTS FIRED
For most of the first half we looked bloody good. Passing movement, everyone looking for the ball. Luongo looks a serious player. For all the talk of relegation Charlton didn't look bad at all, decent composure on the ball.
We got stung by two things - we reacted badly to going behind to a bit of a soft goal, and as our pre season has been shambolic we wilted really badly.
Chery also looked boss - was confused as to why Charlton gave him loads of space but kept trying to main Jamie Mackie.
However had forgotten how much I hate football fans, especially at away games. Everyone seemed to be happier to be losing so they could slate the team, and pretty sure I heard someone racially abuse JET. People booed Austin when he went off I mean just jesus f christ.
The away end at the valley is terrible. It's congested to the point moving around was really crush heavy, and they ran out of beer before half time. Queued for 15 minutes to get a pie and was still 3 deep away. Gutted. I like rating the pies at all the away grounds I go to
some old boy had a pop at me for standing, even though I wasn't in anyone's way, I thought he was joking but he was like "WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU'RE SO SPECIAL? WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING AT ME?" til his mate told him to calm down.
also re: pies, disappointed Norwich are just doing standard Pukka Pies now as opposed to the "Delia's Kitchen" ones which were amazing
I decided I might have to knock going the match on the head completely, such is the twattishness of certain elements of our fans. I literally don't understand why these people bother going if it all makes them so angry; selected highlights being Barkley being labelled a "fucking shithouse" at full volume if he plays it safe but a "cunt" if he tries something more expansive but gives it away (this approx. 8 minutes into a new season), the guy near me at half time who with red-faced anger said "we haven't had one fucking shot at goal!" 200 times, despite the fact we'd had about 5 and their 'keeper had made two very good saves, and the minority of utter morons who boo'd Kone onto the pitch. The sense of entitlement from football fans these days is truly astonishing, I genuinely don't remember it being like this when we were about 50 times worse than we are now.
starting with a team that was almost identical to the Championship team, with most of the newbies on the bench. Villa were absolutely awful in the first half, and we were by far the better team, but couldn't score. Couple of decent chances, but not much more.
Second half Villa came out looking much brighter and kept it up whilst the Cherries melted in the heat. Then it was just a matter of time.
In short, decided to start judging it in more detail when we actually have the new players in the starting line up, and hopefully we will feel a bit less lower league then.
as a roomful of cats. Swansea looked very good. If Gomis had any kind of striker's brain he would be unplayable. Ayew is going to get a lot of goals.
one of those players that seem to create more chances than a lot of 'world class' strikers with their movement and then fluff most of them. Welbeck used to be the same.
Otherwise let's never speak of yesterday's game again. For all the talk of a reinvigorated attacking Stoke there was still a point in the 2nd half when they replaced Charlie Adam with Steve Sidwell, which may be the Stokest substitution of all time.
removing any potential of #worldy status
but an Ajax child scored a blooter this weekend so he should be halfway happy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re8vUpBRfUk
Daily transfer rumours will be back on Wednesday.
It's this seasons 3 left backs.
we'll be champions within a decade.
Joey Barton having medical at West Ham
I just typed out 'urgh' but it didn't post cos this site is broken
We must have a midfielder on the way out I reckon. Nolan maybe.
It's made me realise that having dismissed him as a knob, I've not paid any attention to whether he's a good footballer for years.
but I guess it's unlikely Barton would sign that...
is a bit of a rollercoaster but the last week has taken this to new heights
Running around like a headless chicken haranguing people.
Unfortunately he seems to think he is a Pirlo esque figure. He however can barely pass 5 yards, so there are loads of long floating passes straight into touch, shots ballooned into Ealing. He also insisted on taking every free kick and corner - despite doing this for 3 years he had about 12 assists - and three of those were in one game.
He is also a bottler. For all the talk of his temper, it's the pressure that gets him. He was sent off 4 times for us, and all were massive games. Norwich relegation battle in his first season, Man City when we needed to stay up, Leicester when we were second and they were first in the championship and in the Hull six pointer last season. When the going gets tough, Barton gets sent off.
He is a really really mediocre footballer. If he didn't have the gob on him (him shit stirring about the dressing room the day before our last ditch game against City last year was gloriously called out by Souness I thought) he'd have no profile at all. Mid table championship is his level ability wise
partly down to Bradley Johnson's play-acting/awareness of Barton's "reputation"
And the sending off against Leicester was farcical. But, the fact is in high pressure games, he let people take advantage of that, which for a player of the repute he holds himself in isn't good enough. He shouldn't have been anywhere near Johnson. He should've fallen down when Tevez hit him. And that we were a far better team against City with 10 than with him
Like the Hull sending off. He claimed he was trying to protect Darnell Furlong on his debut. Great so you punch Huddlestone in the bollocks and Furlong has to play 60 minutes with a weakened midfield to look after him. Great stuff
and so on.
What a time to be alive.
number of shots on target for each of the top five;
The average number for all five teams fell by about a third in 13/14 compared to 12/13 (which I think was an exciting season until February time). The last couple of years have felt much more cautious than ones preceding it, even accounting for the increase in quality of mid-table teams.
While Tottenham finished in the top 5 in three of those seasons.
Nice work, son.
exclude Liverpool then and just read it as Top Four.
For the past couple of seasons Arsenal have adopted this style of not going for massive domination of possession or pass-them-to-death or even seeming to put any pressure on, just grabbing enough goals from the few chances they get. It's weird and a little bit boring.
what's really astonishing about that is that in 13/14 Liverpool and Manchester City scored with 40% of their shots, which seems a ridiculous conversion rate.
against a good derby side. WEathered a storm and then arguably should won.
Gary Madine looks like the new super kev, which is nice. Should have scored with one of his headers. Heskey also proving he can do a job up top against tired defenders.
Jay Spearing's sending off seemed harsh - he just fell over - but thankfully he'll only miss the cup game tomorrow.
Hope the news on Will Hughes' injury is positive, he looked in a lot of pain.
I've lost track.
I'm not even sure who you are and yet POW, RIGHT IN THE KISSER
This week it's Union Berlin, cheers for asking
(which was the point I was making) Verbal?!
After my embarrassing and dramatic self-banning before i embarked for the states, the absolute dearth of football chat here means I must return to this thread, or else go insane.
I saw Red Bulls and City fans had a pre-game scrap yesterday so the yanks are clearing getting into the spirit of things
Warm. And smells of dead rats. But i like it out here.
Yeah saw that. Silly people. Not had a chance to go yet but will get to one in September against Montreal I think. NYCFC of course because a) closest and b) Pirlo.
evil energy drink team vs evil oil ball team. But yes, Pirlo is the clear winner. Also Drogba if it's Montreal?
I'm good cheers aye, off to Berlin again this week so seeing Union vs Kaiserslauten (for the second year in a row) on Sunday. The 15 EUR (£10) ticket will be markedly different from spending £43 on Norwich vs Palace at the weekend...
is how cheap sporting events are. IYou can get a NYCFC ticket for $25, same for baseball. Not looked into NFL/basketball/hockey yet but we'll see.
Ah, just seen it's toronto actually. Dangnabit.
high up but that's fine because it's a beautiful stadium right on the bay. Don't think it's quite the same for NFL though, think cheapest Jets/Giants games will be like $45ish
Have fun. I'd love to go back for a Union Berlin league game at some point. Union Berlin vs St Pauli later in the season tempts me.
The Union fans were brilliant and very welcoming when I was over there.
Talking about ticket prices, Chelsea vs Palace in a few weeks is £55. Again, I want to go, but I'm not really willing to give Chelsea £55.
Kaiserslauten pumped them 4-0, Union fans never stopped singing or getting behind their team though, was great
*whistles* that on TV?
Hope you're having a swell time over there!
how's things in FM towers? programmed it so rooney is flogged to Stalybridge Celtic where he belongs after two days automatically yet?
If the weekend shows anything, its that the lesser teams have upped their game this season. The Hawthorns is always a tricky place to go, and its never easy against a Pulis side. Not going to go silly on the first game of the season, so only £25 on West Brom to win 2-0 at 28/1
or just that dude who follows him around and mimics him badly?
who is behind thumbinasuit...I'm going small with £25 at 2/1on both being kik
I refuse to believe that anyone except MPBH is that bored.
after a long absence
is definitely in the 'hulkyhogan' school of random usernames
The person behind it posts injokes about their own team, ffs.
playing deep against the league's (arguably) best technical side is just...baffling...
Got to be one of the slowest teams in the league.
really didn't take much notice of him last season for some reason.
Toure injured for Chelsea.
Silva was immense. Can't believe there's still anyone who believes he isn't the best player in the league.
All down hill from now on. We can't expect too many teams to role over and have their belly tickled like West Brom did tonight. Still at least we helped Arsenal climb off the bottom of the table!
football is mint isn't it?
just what we needed before next week, an easy win against an insipid opponent, setting the scene for a pant splitting defeat against the Champions
typical City really
(am I doing it right?)
That Cortouis got a dodgy red to really fire them up ahead of whoever they're playing next eh?!!